101x over censoring songs

[willdav713]

Such as House of Pain's "Jump Around"

They mute out hoe.

It's 12:06 AM when they played it on a Saturday night.

Why?

Makes me wait to change the station, due to too much censoring that they are not required to do because of the time of night.

 

[sdh483]

Who cares? Radio has always censored words. There's no such thing as a censor barrier lifted after a certain time. My buddy who was a host on KSYM couldn't even cuss or use too risque words on his show that aired at 2am on a Monday morning.

 

[willdav713]

Who cares? Radio has always censored words. There's no such thing as a censor barrier lifted after a certain time. My buddy who was a host on KSYM couldn't even cuss or use too risque words on his show that aired at 2am on a Monday morning.

I care. I say if you can't play it right, don't play it at all. Comes from my fathers side of the family.

As for KSYM, don't they have the disclaimer regarding sensitive audiences during that time frame? Maybe that was SAC's policy regarding DJ's but what about the music played on KSYM at 2 AM?

I think it is no excuse to edit out the word hoe in House of Pain's "Jump Around" It is not the same as the F-bomb.

Not just them but 98.5 The Beat as well.

But I think I have my answer they have it on shuffle to be programmed on any hour not just after midnight but also at 10 am. Them at 101x probably don't want a duplicate copy of the song.

Another one is Third Eyed Blind's Semi Charmed Life a bump from the drop is omitted (but when I was reading the FCC rules Drug reference is illegal to broadcast apparently). So I answered my own question to that one.

 

[Kent]

While I agree that there are some really bad censored versions of songs, it's important to remember that no one would be playing them if people didn't want to hear them. You'd be surprised how many people think a certain Cee-Lo Green song is called "Forget You!"

 

[daypart]

Don Imus got fired in 2009 for using a phrase that included that word.

 

[stan]

I recall nearly driving off the road when KLBJ FM played the noncensored version of Radiohead's Creep years ago. I wish radio wouldn't censor any music.

 

[davideduardo]

There's no such thing as a censor barrier lifted after a certain time.

From the FCC website, in part:

"Regarding the safe harbor period, Congress and the courts have instructed the Commission only to enforce the indecency standard between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., local time. - when children are more likely to be in the audience. As a consequence, the Commission does not take action on indecent material aired between 10 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. In this way, constitutionally-protected free speech rights of adults are balanced with the need to protect children from harmful content."

A fuller explanation is at http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/regulation-obscenity-indecency-and-profanity

The safe harbor period has looser standards than the rest of the day.

But, irrespective of the time, there is a difference between cuss words and words that are racially-based epithets. One has to wonder if there is supposed to be a safe harbor where it's acceptable to hurl invective and insult at people based on race, ethnicity or lifestyle.

 

[davideduardo]

Another one is Third Eyed Blind's Semi Charmed Life a bump from the drop is omitted (but when I was reading the FCC rules Drug reference is illegal to broadcast apparently). So I answered my own question to that one.

From the FCC site (link in another post):

"Complaints about broadcast content involving smoking or drug use, for example, do not come within the Commission's statutory authority over indecency."

 

[DominiqueRadio]

Most commercial stations do not exercise the right to play unedited music cause A.) It may leak onto a daypart and create a fine with FCC. Not risking it at all eliminates this. B.) To appear more professional when selling ads. If a company spends thousands of dollars in advertising their company with a radio station, imagine how it would make the station look if the clients tuned in and heard questionable content being aired. Again, they do not want to risk it.

If you are looking for a station that doesn't censor music, try looking into Sirus or maybe even an online station. Digital broadcasters such as my radio station, are not regulated by the FCC. I play unedited music all day.

 

[fredcantu]

Digital broadcasters such as my radio station, are not regulated by the FCC. I play unedited music all day.

I'm all about truth in labeling. Check your dictionary. I believe --by definition-- unless your programs are transmitted by radio, you are not a radio station. Sure you reach some listeners on their smart phones, but then all wireless callers could call themselves radio stations.

 

[DominiqueRadio]

I'm all about truth in labeling. Check your dictionary. I believe --by definition-- unless your programs are transmitted by radio, you are not a radio station. Sure you reach some listeners on their smart phones, but then all wireless callers could call themselves radio stations.

I guess it is a matter of perspective. I for one would have to disagree. I purchased the rights for my call letters from the NADB/ (National Association Of Digital Broadcasters.) KHHA-DB. DB obviously standing for digital broadcaster. While what you referred to might pose true several decades ago, in the digital age.... in my opinion you couldn't be any more incorrect.

The radio industry has changed greatly within the past 20 years and now with greater access to digital broadcasting radio stations, it is going to change even more. Now, every vehicle coming off the line has the ability to play online RADIO stations.

Having said that... if I am riding around the city streaming a digital broadcaster in my brand new ride.... wouldn't that constitute as a radio station???

 

[fredcantu]

I purchased the rights for my call letters from the NADB/ (National Association Of Digital Broadcasters.) KHHA-DB. DB obviously standing for digital broadcaster.

This website does not appear to have any authority to assign call letters, yet it does so all over the world. By the way, their facebook page says they were founded 2009. It says it's an advocacy and educational group but appears to do nothing but sell call letters.

 

[davideduardo]

Now, every vehicle coming off the line has the ability to play online RADIO stations.

While some cars have Internet enabled dashboards, nowhere near all of them do. Another, and larger, percentage have ways to connect a mobile device wirelessly or via bluetooth.

But all of them require some form of paid data account. Not everyone does this.

More significant is the fact that the average car on the road today is 10 years old. That means that, even if all cars were web-enabled, it would take 20 years to achieve 100% penetration of the technology. Whether everyone pays for connectivity is another issue.

Does your "station" with its faux call letters have any revenue model? What do you pay for digital royalties? You do pay royalties, don't you?

 

[davideduardo]

This website does not appear to have any authority to assign call letters, yet it does so all over the world.

This sounds a bit like the thing the magazine "Popular Electronics" did in the early 60's where they gave "monitor" call signs to radio DXers. I was in Ohio, and got WPE8AWK.

Of course, just like the current calls being discussed, the calls were meaningless and held no authority. But it was fun.

 

[CTHank]

Seems to me that if you can't pick it up on a radio, it's not a radio station. And frankly, if I were a business in SA and you came to me wanting to sell me advertising and handed me a card that said 'KHHA 102.9' I'm going to be looking for it at 102.9 and when you chuckle and say 'oh well, it's not really on the air, it's an internet broadcast' all your credibility if flushed right down the toilet. It's false advertising at worse, misleading at best.

 

[Iused2nothat]

On topic:
Offending just one or two listeners can have disastrous effect on overall listenership and advertising sales.

Off topic:

The wireless transmission through space of electromagnetic waves in the approximate frequency range from 10 kilohertz to 300,000 megahertz.

D.R., I don't think your streaming qualifies. Broadcasting, perhaps...radio...not.

 

[willdav713]

On topic:
Offending just one or two listeners can have disastrous effect on overall listenership and advertising sales.

Off topic:

The wireless transmission through space of electromagnetic waves in the approximate frequency range from 10 kilohertz to 300,000 megahertz.

D.R., I don't think your streaming qualifies. Broadcasting, perhaps...radio...not.

But they are people like me that are offended by not hearing the song the way it is intended to be played with the word hoe in it during adult only hours of the night.

KSJL played it, and so did KSYM on the Urban Contemporary show circa before House Nation/Electrorhythms without all the censoring.
I know, I have airchecks of them somewhere.

 

[CTHank]

From the FCC's site Profane Broadcast Restrictions

The FCC has defined profanity as “including language so grossly offensive to members of the public who actually hear it as to amount to a nuisance.”

Like indecency, profane speech is prohibited on broadcast radio and television between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

How many stations will have two copies of the same song? one they can play at any time and the other 'adult only' version that fits the fcc guidelines, it's easier just to have one censored copy that you can play all the time and not have to worry about it. Heck we've all heard ads running 4 days after the 'sale' was over, it'd be a pain to actually have to keep track of which song goes when, and with the acute shortage of personnel in stations now day, it's just not worth it.