102.3 San Antonio changes formats

[Anonymouse]

It looks like 102.3 FM in San Antonio is now simulcasting KROB out of Corpus Christi.

 

[Anonymouse]

I wonder what this'll do to KEDA?

 

[jras20]

Does 102.3 broadcast audio at night? Since KROB is a daytimer only?

 

[Anonymouse]

Yeah it does. Go listen.

 

[Anonymouse]

It sounds like someone has the volume turned up a little too high, cause the audio clips a little.

 

[jras20]

Yeah it does. Go listen.

I can not pick it up where I am, last time I was able to listen to it they were still religious music.

 

[saradio1]

Yeah it does. Go listen.

I can not pick it up where I am, last time I was able to listen to it they were still religious music.

jras20, you wont be able to pick it. The signal covers almost all of Bexar county.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=K272EK&service=FX&status=L&hours=U

 

[jras20]

Yeah it does. Go listen.

I can not pick it up where I am, last time I was able to listen to it they were still religious music.

jras20, you wont be able to pick it. The signal covers almost all of Bexar county.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=K272EK&service=FX&status=L&hours=U

Yep, at home The beat 102.3 overrides it and I have a better chance at picking the Planet 102.3 in Corpus than them out in Lavaca county.

 

[davideduardo]

jras20, you wont be able to pick it. The signal covers almost all of Bexar county.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=K272EK&service=FX&status=L&hours=U

The usable signal for in-home and at-work listening is a bit inside the inner red contour of the radio.locator maps. For cars, it just outside that curve. The 65 dbu (95% of home and work listening is inside that contour) signal covers about 260,000 persons, about 12% of the metro population.

 

[wild949austin]

102.3 The Beat signal goes as far south as FM 3009 (where walmart and HEB is) in Schertz.

102.3 in SA however goes as far north as Olympia Parkway in NE SA.

 

[Marcel A. Yanez]

It is illegal for him (Gerald Benavides) to rebroadcast KROB 1510 AM licensed out of Robstown, Texas on K272EK 102.3 here in San Antonio but being that he runs KROB (a 500 watt daytime only AM station) 24 hours a day at 1000 watts I don't think legalities mean anything to him. Me thinks the FCC needs to pay him a little visit sometime soon.

 

[wild949austin]

It is illegal for him (Gerald Benavides) to rebroadcast KROB 1510 AM licensed out of Robstown, Texas on K272EK 102.3 here in San Antonio but being that he runs KROB (a 500 watt daytime only AM station) 24 hours a day at 1000 watts I don't think legalities mean anything to him. Me thinks the FCC needs to pay him a little visit sometime soon.

K272EK 102.3 should be sold to Univision, and become a city grade rebroadcast Party 97.7..... Just throwing it out there

 

[davideduardo]

K272EK 102.3 should be sold to Univision, and become a city grade rebroadcast Party 97.7..... Just throwing it out there

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It's an LPFM, which can not run commercials. It's intended use is for some form of community radio, not commercial radio.

 

[Iused2nothat]

It's an LPFM, which can not run commercials. It's intended use is for some form of community radio, not commercial radio.

Wow, D.E., I thought you were more knowledgeable than that!
Its not a LPFM, its a translator. It should not be initiating any programming on its own, and is not allowed to extend the coverage area of any co-owned station it rebroadcasts.
That includes Univision rebroadcasting KLTO, or J. B. rebroadcasting KROB. It also is not allowed to rebroadcast an AM station more than 25 miles from the transmitter.

Mr. Yanez is right on the money about the many illegalities of its operation, and it amazes me that CCR and other S.A. broadcasters have not raised a stink about it. I guess they fear a close examination of their own operations.

 

[wild949austin]

It's an LPFM, which can not run commercials. It's intended use is for some form of community radio, not commercial radio.

Wow, D.E., I thought you were more knowledgeable than that!
Its not a LPFM, its a translator. It should not be initiating any programming on its own, and is not allowed to extend the coverage area of any co-owned station it rebroadcasts.
That includes Univision rebroadcasting KLTO, or J. B. rebroadcasting KROB. It also is not allowed to rebroadcast an AM station more than 25 miles from the transmitter.

Mr. Yanez is right on the money about the many illegalities of its operation, and it amazes me that CCR and other S.A. broadcasters have not raised a stink about it. I guess they fear a close examination of their own operations.

Well... I figured if Emmis here in Austin can rebroadcast KGSR on translator K274AX 102.7, then Univision can do the same thing with KLTO on K272EK 102.3.

I also recall the old Hot 93.3 rebroadcast on K259AJ 99.7 too.

 

[fredcantu]

Just to clarify the difference-- The 99.7 and 102.7 translators footprints are totally within the coverage area of the co-owned 93.3 main signal and do not provide any additional coverage to 93.3, just a stronger signal in one part of the 93.3 footprint. The 102.3 translator in San Antonio would extend the coverage of 97.7 McQueeny westward into central San Antonio beyond 97.7's footprint.

 

[wild949austin]

Just to clarify the difference-- The 99.7 and 102.7 translators footprints are totally within the coverage area of the co-owned 93.3 main signal and do not provide any additional coverage to 93.3, just a stronger signal in one part of the 93.3 footprint. The 102.3 translator in San Antonio would extend the coverage of 97.7 McQueeny westward into central San Antonio beyond 97.7's footprint.

Well... then the only way for SA to get city-grade coverage of Party 97.7 is to either move the stick closer to the city, or rebroadcast the station on another full power station. Example: "Wild 105.7 and 96.7" in Atlanta, GA

 

[davideduardo]

Wow, D.E., I thought you were more knowledgeable than that!

Sorry, brain f--t on my part... I thought I was looking at an LPFM sort.

Its not a LPFM, its a translator. It should not be initiating any programming on its own, and is not allowed to extend the coverage area of any co-owned station it rebroadcasts.

But it can extend the coverage of another station, in this case there are references to both KJMA and other stations that are part of the Good News Radio Network.

Mr. Yanez is right on the money about the many illegalities of its operation, and it amazes me that CCR and other S.A. broadcasters have not raised a stink about it. I guess they fear a close examination of their own operations.

Or, more probably, they have not noticed.

 

[Kent]

Well... then the only way for SA to get city-grade coverage of Party 97.7 is to either move the stick closer to the city, or rebroadcast the station on another full power station. Example: "Wild 105.7 and 96.7" in Atlanta, GA

Or to negotiate a deal with the current translator owner to rebroadcast the station. Of course, the translator has to be able to pick the station up off air, but I don't think that would be a problem.

 

[Iused2nothat]

Or to negotiate a deal with the current translator owner to rebroadcast the station. Of course, the translator has to be able to pick the station up off air, but I don't think that would be a problem.

But the primary station is not allowed to provide any funding for the operation of the translator (legally). That is the problem.
The NAB pushed these rules through the FCC in the early 90's to protect their member's franchise from 250 watt competitors.