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102.5 to flip to FM talk in two weeks
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I cound care less for talk. i have my own opinion. If I ran CBS I would move 98.7 to Classic Rock.
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Don't listen now and this makes no diff. I just wonder if Cox will move Slater and other music jocks to the robo blocks on the Eagle or just cut them loose like they did Corey Dylan? If the Eagle gets even more Classic Rocky, they will lose me although I still prefer Q105, The Dove, and Magic. On another note, is Ann Kelly gone or on vacation?
I don't know who Slater is. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he is absolutely obnoxious. He has the phoniest puker DJ voice I've ever heard. The exaggerated way he pronounces "Bubba the Love Sponge" makes me nauseous. Lets hope they fire him...
Doesn't sound like a "Major Announcement" as we used to say....Bubba and Cowhead did talk shows with a few tunes..now no tunes. This may open a door for someone to do classic rock if, in fact, it is still a viable format. If so, it would have to be smartly programmed to avoid tunes that have been burned to a crisp. Deep tracks of Beatles, Doors, Janis, Jimi, with a flavoring of all those groups that put out one great album. Music of Your Life for retired hippies? Can't you just hear the Jeff Laurence liner..."The ONLY Tampa Bay station playing Ina Gada Da Vida"
This certainly explains 97X's playlist expansion of late (Cox? playlist expansion? really!) to include more alternative gold/recurrents with (gasp!) less repetition. They are sounding better these days than they have in quite some time, IMHO.
As long as they continue to differentiate themselves from WXTB they will most likely keep the modest but comfortable niche they've carved out. Heck, they might pick up a few of the younger "Bone" listeners (which is what Cox is banking on).
On the oft mentioned (by one guy) topic of Active Rock....WSUN going with the format that nearly killed 98Rock would fail miserably. Remember those dark post-Bubba days? Even small-signaled 97.1 was eating their lunch. Wisely WXTB shored up the older demos with copious amounts of classic rock and grunge gold.
"Hard Rock" just isn't selling in large numbers anymore (certainly not enough to build an entire format around).
Let's take a gander at the sales figures for last year (weekly charts are too erratic in nature these days to get a clear overall picture).
Of the top 100 albums in 2011 (Billboard), there were exactly zero (0) "metal" acts. One could make an argument for Alt. mainstays Foo Fighters at #39 as "Hard Rock", or maybe even Kid Rock at #16, but the highest charting album by a traditionally "Hard/Active Rock" artist last year was from Linkin Park, at #107. Did find one "hair band" though...a greatest hits package from soccer-mom favorite Bon Jovi (#48).
As for "alternative" acts? Hmmm.....
Bon Iver #100
Arcade Fire #97
Kings Of Leon #93
Beastie Boys #90
Red Hot Chili Peppers #71
Foster The People #55
Black Keys #50
Florence & The Machine #44
Foo Fighters #39
Coldplay #35
Mumford And Sons #8
The few rock acts that actually have any lasting chart/sales success these days are "alternative" acts. 97X is wise to maintain course in that regard if younger demos are the goal. Granted, the 97.1 pea-shooter is never gonna hit Dove numbers (especially in a PPM world, where signal is a big advantage), but it should continue to keep the lights on.
CBS moving Play to traditional Classic Rock could work, but if I were over at CC I might also be looking to grab some of the Eagle's....errr...."thunder". At the very least, I'd expect WXTB to lean a bit more "classic" to make a run at The Bone's listeners.
As long as they continue to differentiate themselves from WXTB they will most likely keep the modest but comfortable niche they've carved out. Heck, they might pick up a few of the younger "Bone" listeners (which is what Cox is banking on).
On the oft mentioned (by one guy) topic of Active Rock....WSUN going with the format that nearly killed 98Rock would fail miserably. Remember those dark post-Bubba days? Even small-signaled 97.1 was eating their lunch. Wisely WXTB shored up the older demos with copious amounts of classic rock and grunge gold.
"Hard Rock" just isn't selling in large numbers anymore (certainly not enough to build an entire format around).
Let's take a gander at the sales figures for last year (weekly charts are too erratic in nature these days to get a clear overall picture).
Of the top 100 albums in 2011 (Billboard), there were exactly zero (0) "metal" acts. One could make an argument for Alt. mainstays Foo Fighters at #39 as "Hard Rock", or maybe even Kid Rock at #16, but the highest charting album by a traditionally "Hard/Active Rock" artist last year was from Linkin Park, at #107. Did find one "hair band" though...a greatest hits package from soccer-mom favorite Bon Jovi (#48).
As for "alternative" acts? Hmmm.....
Bon Iver #100
Arcade Fire #97
Kings Of Leon #93
Beastie Boys #90
Red Hot Chili Peppers #71
Foster The People #55
Black Keys #50
Florence & The Machine #44
Foo Fighters #39
Coldplay #35
Mumford And Sons #8
The few rock acts that actually have any lasting chart/sales success these days are "alternative" acts. 97X is wise to maintain course in that regard if younger demos are the goal. Granted, the 97.1 pea-shooter is never gonna hit Dove numbers (especially in a PPM world, where signal is a big advantage), but it should continue to keep the lights on.
CBS moving Play to traditional Classic Rock could work, but if I were over at CC I might also be looking to grab some of the Eagle's....errr...."thunder". At the very least, I'd expect WXTB to lean a bit more "classic" to make a run at The Bone's listeners.
Fans of the Hot Talk genre should enjoy Nick & Artie, which Shark said on Bubba's show this morning will clear live from 10p-1a ET (not in those exact words). Premiere is syndicating N&A and I've liked what I've heard from them, and they are slowly but surely landing clearances. It's mostly been on non-ESPN sports stations, but now they will have two Hot Talk format clearances in Florida with 96 K-Rock in Ft. Myers and 102.5 the Bone as of 4/23/2012.
I'm somewhat surprised that Real Radio 104.1 in Orlando hasn't added Nick & Artie, especially with the Premiere/Clear Channel connection, but perhaps that's something to look for on down the line.
I'm somewhat surprised that Real Radio 104.1 in Orlando hasn't added Nick & Artie, especially with the Premiere/Clear Channel connection, but perhaps that's something to look for on down the line.
So, you switch 970 to HD1 from the HD2 of 97.9. Remember, you want the Northern coverage improvement that you weren't able to accomplish on 970. Then, you move 98Rock to 100.7. It would compliment WJRR in Orlando. Mix is the station most vulnerable for CC. It goes away since the female pie (can I say that?) is fragmented by WDUV, Q105, and WWRM.gamefreak said:
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
And let's not forget that 2 of top 3 songs on the Hot 100 this week are by alternative acts (Gotye and Fun.) The kids are really into this stuff so I think most alt stations would be better served going here than going more active friendly.
I think with 102.5 going ALL-TALK.. this will open the door for them to push 97X into a harder direction playing more Active Rock. I mean, it's the smart thing to do. Grunge has been dead for 12 years. Bands like Disturbed,5 Finger,Nickleback,Shinedown,Foo Fighters..etc etc are the big $$$ sellers in rock/metal and have beaten out their Alt formats in citys everywhere in the past 4-5 years. Active Rock markets that fail are the 1s that play the same old songs day in and day out and that don't have a big "Playlist". 102.5 is a good example..
102.5 going ALL-Talk makes opens that door for them to change up 97X now.. cause 97X is their big problem and it's been their weakest link for years cause that music sucks!
102.5 going ALL-Talk makes opens that door for them to change up 97X now.. cause 97X is their big problem and it's been their weakest link for years cause that music sucks!
Cedric said:
Royalties are not based on how many songs you play. Depending on which major licensing service you're talking about, a station's costs are computed either on their cume or on their billing. It costs the same to play 3,000 songs once or 1 song 3,000 times. So stations do not shrink their playlists to pay lower royalities.
The only way they can change what they pay is to stop playing music.
FrankF said:
That's correct -- dunno how it slipped my mind last night. WEUS has a strong evening/overnight lineup with Nick & Artie 10p-1a and then Phil Hendrie 1-5a.
I don't recall anybody saying WFLA would be the first. I just remember hearing us discuss that it would happen. It would be the easiest to technically do because it is already on the HD-2 of 97.9.DToTheJ said:
And just because 102.5 flips, it does not mean CC will change their plans as a direct result - much to my dismay. Cox does not have a newsroom in place for local coverage.
Talk does not mean News.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
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