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102.5 WHIZ Move in...

OhioMediaWatch said:
CatFM said:
He obviously doesn't want to take any heat from the locals for selling them out and taking their station away from them, which he surely did for however much he ends up getting for it.
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Understood, but isn't that kind of a moot point right now? The WHIZ configuration is now exactly as it had been for decades, except that 92.7/South Zanesville is the FM, with the same format 102.5 had before all this happened.
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The northern areas of the former 102.5 coverage area will not be served as well (or at all farther out) by the 92.7 signal since the 92.7 xmtr site is so much farther south. Maybe it's no big deal to them. I will give him credit for at least getting a replacement signal, even if it is a downgrade, because a number of other FM moves in Ohio have left counties with either no radio station, or only small AM stations, which the FCC should never have allowed to happen.
 
Why don't they say that they sold out the BETTER 102.5 frequency to the Columbus market, at a profit. Then, the listeners in Zaniesville would understand why they can't hear 102.5 anymore because it's the America way to make money. They stand to make Millions by moving the signal into the Columbus radio market at the expense of the Zainesville radio market listeners.
For some reason(s), they don't want the people of Zaineville to know the real reason they moved 102.5 to Columbus and that was to sell 102.5 at a huge profit. They don't want to be know as the radio owners that sold out their best radio signal to the Columbus radio market. Maybe they think their Zainesville reputation would be at stake if they make that fact know to the general public in Zainesville.
Dose anyone agree with me?

Zainville to too large a small town to have no local radio service. There will allways be some local radio service there.
 
gabigley1 said:
Why don't they say that they sold out the BETTER 102.5 frequency to the Columbus market, at a profit. Then, the listeners in Zaniesville would understand why they can't hear 102.5 anymore because it's the America way to make money. They stand to make Millions by moving the signal into the Columbus radio market at the expense of the Zainesville radio market listeners.
For some reason(s), they don't want the people of Zaineville to know the real reason they moved 102.5 to Columbus and that was to sell 102.5 at a huge profit. They don't want to be know as the radio owners that sold out their best radio signal to the Columbus radio market. Maybe they think their Zainesville reputation would be at stake if they make that fact know to the general public in Zainesville.
Dose anyone agree with me?

Zainville to too large a small town to have no local radio service. There will allways be some local radio service there.
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OK, which one is it: Zainville, Zainesville, or Zaniesville (I really like that one)!

One thing I definitely agree with you on is that the owners are ridiculously trying to mislead the people of Zanesville into thinking 102.5 still serves much of their area.  Being misleading (no, make that lying) doesn't speak well for those guys.

All this reminds me of the old WNCI (formerly known as) Morning Zoo classic parody "Livin In Zanesville," to the tune of "Livin on a Prayer".  It was a scream, and probably lost WNCI whatever listeners they had in the area.
 
OK, which one is it: Zainville, Zainesville, or Zaniesville (I really like that one)!

The spell check, my best friend doesn't have Zanesville in it's vocabulary. Sorry, I'm at the mercy of my best friend, the spell checker.
 
gabigley1 said:
Why don't they say that they sold out the BETTER 102.5 frequency to the Columbus market, at a profit. Then, the listeners in Zaniesville would understand why they can't hear 102.5 anymore because it's the America way to make money. They stand to make Millions by moving the signal into the Columbus radio market at the expense of the Zainesville radio market listeners.
For some reason(s), they don't want the people of Zaineville to know the real reason they moved 102.5 to Columbus and that was to sell 102.5 at a huge profit. They don't want to be know as the radio owners that sold out their best radio signal to the Columbus radio market. Maybe they think their Zainesville reputation would be at stake if they make that fact know to the general public in Zainesville.
Dose anyone agree with me?
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Yes, I agree completely! They sold out for the almighty dollar, pure and simple. To try to claim anything else would be an obvious lie. The ONLY benefit in that move was financial, and only the owners will reap the benefit. While it can be claimed that they did indeed get a replacement for it so no service was lost, the fact remains that the replacement is still a downgrade and it was all about money...nothing else.
 
gabigley1 said:
Why don't they say that they sold out the BETTER 102.5 frequency to the Columbus market, at a profit. Then, the listeners in Zaniesville would understand why they can't hear 102.5 anymore because it's the America way to make money. They stand to make Millions by moving the signal into the Columbus radio market at the expense of the Zainesville radio market listeners.
For some reason(s), they don't want the people of Zaineville to know the real reason they moved 102.5 to Columbus and that was to sell 102.5 at a huge profit. They don't want to be know as the radio owners that sold out their best radio signal to the Columbus radio market. Maybe they think their Zainesville reputation would be at stake if they make that fact know to the general public in Zainesville.
Dose anyone agree with me?

Zainville to too large a small town to have no local radio service. There will allways be some local radio service there.
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Right on the money. Now Zanesville is the area with rimshot signals.
 
FWIW, they're still about the smallest market with their own full-power TV station.  But with cable that's not as big a deal as it used to be.

BTW, does anyone who has thread posts emailed to them find that they're screwed up lately?  E.g, I get copies of my own posts, but attributed to someone else....and other weird stuff.  First the visual emoticons go away, now this.
 
Everyone seems to forget that Zanesville has another local FM station, 107.3 WYBZ.  And now that SE Ohio Broadcasting has filed for a second FM Licensed to McConnolsville, but transmitting from the WHIZ tower at 103.7. ( Id look for a change of COL on the 92.7 signal to McConnolsville, and the new signal to become South Zanesville, but thats just a guess to keep the allocations)

102.5 moving to Columbus makes way for the move of WCMJ 96.7 to 102.7 increasing their power from 2.3kw to 4.5kw, that move makes way for 96.7 WKOV In Jackson Ohio to Move to Frazeysburg with 11.5kw putting a city grade signal over all of Zanesville and even Newark. Alot of changes but it looks to me like Zanesville will get a gain of 1 City grade signal over what they had.
 
They can be annoying, but it's actually better than seeing words like Smiley, Wink and Cheesy showing up in posts instead.   It's as if people are talking about the Seven Dwarfs instead of radio. ::)
 
Southeast Ohio has applied to change the city of license for 103.7 from McConnelsville to Philo, with the antenna on the WHIZ-TV tower in SE Zanesville. (Zanesville--named for Rev. war veteran Col. Ebenezer Zane, who laid out Zane's trace (now U.S. 22) from Wheeling to Maysville, Ky. on the Ohio River. Now back to our regular program).

I would look for 92.7 to downgrade to a Class A and also move to the same tower. The new Frazaysburg 96.7 is too far out of town to have a strong signal in the city.
 
TomT said:
(Zanesville--named for Rev. war veteran Col. Ebenezer Zane, who laid out Zane's trace (now U.S. 22) from Wheeling to Maysville, Ky. on the Ohio River. Now back to our regular program).
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Thanks Cliff Clavin! =D
 
TomT said:
You need at least a 70 dbu to be competitive. On a B-1, that's about 10 to 15 miles max.
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I dont think that applys much in a small town like Zanesville,. WWJM 105.9 in New Lexington is a class A and about the same distance, and they have been competitive in Zanesville for years. and the WKOV tower will be closer with a Class B1 i think they will do just fine
 
Yes, 92.7 is not the same signal as 102.5 was. Yes, there's some loss of service/signal reach, at least at the current levels.

But effectively, for the largest amount of listeners (in Zanesville itself), 92.7 is today's 102.5. Same format, same people, different frequency.

And things could change again if this 103.7/Philo move happens.

In the end, Mr. Littick will get his money (though not nearly what it would have been before the economic collapse), and he'll still have two (or more) radio signals serving his core market. I don't think anyone can blame him for going for the brass ring, and he did not have to spend some of that money (beforehand!) replacing the lost 102.5 signal back in Zanesville.
 
Allfirdup said:
Everyone seems to forget that Zanesville has another local FM station, 107.3 WYBZ. And now that SE Ohio Broadcasting has filed for a second FM Licensed to McConnolsville, but transmitting from the WHIZ tower at 103.7. ( Id look for a change of COL on the 92.7 signal to McConnolsville, and the new signal to become South Zanesville, but thats just a guess to keep the allocations)

102.5 moving to Columbus makes way for the move of WCMJ 96.7 to 102.7 increasing their power from 2.3kw to 4.5kw, that move makes way for 96.7 WKOV In Jackson Ohio to Move to Frazeysburg with 11.5kw putting a city grade signal over all of Zanesville and even Newark. Alot of changes but it looks to me like Zanesville will get a gain of 1 City grade signal over what they had.
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At the present time there is not a commercial FM signal in Muskingum county. 107.3 tx is in Crooksville and 105.9 is outside New Lex. 92.7 is in Rose Farm.


From the rumor mill - I hear that the move in to Frazeysburg hit a snag......money.
 
Allfirdup said:
Everyone seems to forget that Zanesville has another local FM station, 107.3 WYBZ. And now that SE Ohio Broadcasting has filed for a second FM Licensed to McConnolsville, but transmitting from the WHIZ tower at 103.7. ( Id look for a change of COL on the 92.7 signal to McConnolsville, and the new signal to become South Zanesville, but thats just a guess to keep the allocations)
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They, SEORB, filed to move the the vacant 103.7 allocation from McConnolsville to a reserved channel 103.7 in Philo on October, 16, 2009.
Since, the reserve channel is closer to Zanesville, they, if approved, will be able to transmit from the WHIZ tower located in Zainesville. Here is the
application if anyone wants to look it up under McConnolsville and Philo. Allfirdup, you must have had some inside info to know SEORB was planning
to move 103.7 from McConnolsville to Philo. IF the FCC approves this, and it may take many years before the station gets on the air from the new city of license of Philo, there will still be one less signal in Zanesville until then. Also, the new 103.7 won't have as strong of coverage area of the region that the old 102.5 licensed to Zanesville had.

Click here for the Applications:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?stat...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9
 
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