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Heard Linkin Park and Kelly Clarkson this morning. Sounding more and more like XL 1067 or 933 FLZ. Is a flip coming or just a strong lean towards mainstream CHR?
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Well, something must be up. CBS already flipped KSCF/San Diego to Top 40, a sign that they're preparing WJHM for a major change.
If they flip who thinks they will be either wild 101.9 or amped 101.9? It's not if, it's when. It's too bad really. 102 jamz is a heretage station in the area. Linkin park? I looked on yes.com and saw nothing. I don't think 102 jamz would play linkin park but I could be wrong.
This leaves Orlando with no Urban Hip-Hop and R&B station. Why couldn't they just copy sisiter station X-102.3 in West Palm. They sound pretty decent! Now, how is POWER 95.3 sounding? Have they increased Hip-Hop and R&B over Pop/Dance?
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WOMX 105.1 HD-2 (AMP Radio) off the air today........
Coincidence?
Coincidence?
DJ Mo said:
Actually, its "Cannon's Countdown" that WJHM airs on Saturday mornings.
I was out in The Villages today and stumbled on 102Jamz. The 1st song I heard on the stations was Jason Derulo's "In My Head", I thought I accidentally put on Tampa's Mix 100.7 or Orlando's 105.1. Until I heard "WJHM HD-1 Daytona Beach, Orlando, We're 102 Jamz". I had it on the station for the next 2 hours and heard "Set Fire to Rain" by Adele and "Moves like Jagger" by Maroon 5.
All the songs I heard today are confirmed via this link.
http://102jamzorlando.radio.com/playlist/
Maybe CBS is being sneaky and starting a CHR war with XL. CBS is being sneaky because they haven't changed the name of 102Jamz to something else. Maybe they want to eventually morph WJHM into a CHR but are first seeing if the feedback of mixing CHR within the music library is positive. IF the ratings on 102 go up while CBS is doing this a format flip may come soon.
All the songs I heard today are confirmed via this link.
http://102jamzorlando.radio.com/playlist/
Maybe CBS is being sneaky and starting a CHR war with XL. CBS is being sneaky because they haven't changed the name of 102Jamz to something else. Maybe they want to eventually morph WJHM into a CHR but are first seeing if the feedback of mixing CHR within the music library is positive. IF the ratings on 102 go up while CBS is doing this a format flip may come soon.
I doubt CBS will see the 'results' they want with this station.
WJHM won't stand a chance of taking down its former sister station under CC, and the fact that there is growing black population that makes up 15.6% of the region's inhabitants underserved is obvious. All the black inhabitants doesn't want to listen to old school R&B and soul music all day on "Star 94.5". CBS is just plain dumb with this move, look at what few inroads sister station WPGC has made against CC-owned CHR "Hot 99.5" in DC. The only thing that has been saving WPGC is its core black audience over the past 2 years and its extraordinary billing (#2 overall in its market). CHR battles are zero-sum to most in the market and just a waste of time for the so-called challenger of the heritage CHR.
As ShawtyBlackATL said they could have just emulated programming techniques of their sister station in West Palm Beach, WMBX, which has a smaller black population (14.6%) and direct competition (99 Jamz WEDR).
WJHM won't stand a chance of taking down its former sister station under CC, and the fact that there is growing black population that makes up 15.6% of the region's inhabitants underserved is obvious. All the black inhabitants doesn't want to listen to old school R&B and soul music all day on "Star 94.5". CBS is just plain dumb with this move, look at what few inroads sister station WPGC has made against CC-owned CHR "Hot 99.5" in DC. The only thing that has been saving WPGC is its core black audience over the past 2 years and its extraordinary billing (#2 overall in its market). CHR battles are zero-sum to most in the market and just a waste of time for the so-called challenger of the heritage CHR.
As ShawtyBlackATL said they could have just emulated programming techniques of their sister station in West Palm Beach, WMBX, which has a smaller black population (14.6%) and direct competition (99 Jamz WEDR).
kilamanjero said:
Right, they're listening to Power.... ya know, that OTHER rhythmic station in the market that was killing JAMZ? Yeah, that one...
ThatGuyOnTheRadio said:
Sure, I would like for you prove that one because just because Power is higher in overall ratings doesn't mean that particular demographic is listening to them. Just because Power plays 'hip-pop' doesn't make it a station that blacks listen to. Until you prove this, my point still stands...
kilamanjero said:
If I had access to PPM breakdowns, I'd love to. I'm not saying ALL blacks are listening to Power, but some certainly are. But, that only tells part of the story as PPM distribution/participation to blacks is very low. Hence the reason why stations are programming to the PPM and the demise of many urban formats. I believe 102JAMZ was getting a raw deal in the ratings world (as are PYO and CFB) if JAMZ had refocused itself a little better, it could have been more successful. IMHO...
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Power's signal is poor, 102 Jamz has always has a great stick and covers Orlando and Daytona very well. I like all radio, just don't care for poor signals.
ThatGuyOnTheRadio said:
The only reason why WJHM/102 Jamz is where it is now has a lot to do with the suits in NYC at CBS Corp. They felt that they could run the station 'on cheap' back in 2005 after DJ Huk Her and Steve DeMann were essentially pushed out due to 'budget cuts'. They stuck Steve Harvey, which was the only CBS urban/rhythmic (that was a non-urban AC) with a syndicated morning show, which alienated the 18-34 audience. Followed by constant idiotic moves with the constant turnover in the middays as well from Alex Dupri to Sytonnia Moore (whom is now at sister station WVEE/Atlanta) to Rhonda Jordan, all within 4-5 years. Let's not forget the bi-polar musical programming of UAC programming with Harvey then rhythmic crossover the rest of the day. They continued this weird trend with Ricky Smiley. CBS essentially train wrecked the station because they didn't choose anything of stability over the period of the years nor wanted to invest at all into the property, and finally PPM put the nail in the coffin.
If they had chose to be a little more coherent over the years then it could have still been around as an urban-leaning rhythmic at the very least rather than 'rhythmic chasing its own tail'.
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