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104.5 BACK TO SUNNY EARLY ON 2007?
- Thread starter Capitan
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Alright, even I think this is getting oooold
KJCB said:
... and silly.
Both stations are horrible. Not being Spanish, I can't listen to the old Sunny anymore anyway. And then, while driving down to visit colleges with my son, we had the new 106 on. He said "this won't make it, it sounds like they don't know what type of station they want to be."
Maybe middle-aged (albeit "old-fashioned") males and their 17 year old sons don't fit radio's demos anymore. (He does like Wired 96.5, though).
Maybe middle-aged (albeit "old-fashioned") males and their 17 year old sons don't fit radio's demos anymore. (He does like Wired 96.5, though).
It is getting old and silly!
Sunny 104.5 is gone.
Sunny 104.5 is gone.
kvd08844 said:
I checked the Census form 2000. There are zero (0) Spanish people in the Philly metro.
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OHara
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I checked the Census form 2000. There are zero (0) Spanish people in the Philly metro.
Hey you are a real comedian, what else do you do for [EDIT].
The 2000 Census showed in the Philly metro.
Irish - 16% - where is their FULL TIME station?
Italian - 13% - where is their FULL TIME station?
German - 12% - where is their FULL TIME station?
Polish - 10% - where is their FULL TIME station?
English/French/Slavik/Greek - 22% where is their FULL TIME station?
Asian/Islander/Canadian - 7% - where is their FULL TIME station?
AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!! I ASK THAT "UN"-LIBERAL QUESTION, WHY CATER TO THIS ONE BREED OF HUMANS (who refuse to be American-ized) AND NOT THE OTHERS.....DISCUSS!!
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Hey you are a real comedian, what else do you do for [EDIT].
The 2000 Census showed in the Philly metro.
Irish - 16% - where is their FULL TIME station?
Italian - 13% - where is their FULL TIME station?
German - 12% - where is their FULL TIME station?
Polish - 10% - where is their FULL TIME station?
English/French/Slavik/Greek - 22% where is their FULL TIME station?
Asian/Islander/Canadian - 7% - where is their FULL TIME station?
AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!! I ASK THAT "UN"-LIBERAL QUESTION, WHY CATER TO THIS ONE BREED OF HUMANS (who refuse to be American-ized) AND NOT THE OTHERS.....DISCUSS!!
[EDIT-profanity]
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Derek Smalls
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This joker actually makes me miss the 5 million 'RJ is the greatest radio talent ever' posts...
OHara said:
The Irish sepak English.
The Italians here came from 1880 to 1915, mostly. By second and third generation, they assimilated
The Germans came from about 1860 to 1890, and were mostly assimilated in the second and third generation.
The English have always spoken English, although they sound funny when they do it. Sort of like watching Benny Hill.
The Greeks, etc. came throughout the 20th Century, and assimilated int he second and third generation.
Canadians mostly speak English, eh? The French canadians do not even migrate to non-Francophone areas, so are not a big deal in the US.
Asians are ocming constantly, and if you come to CA, you will find they assimilate in the second or third generation.
Do you see a pattern? The first generation rearely becomes even bilingual, generally being those who think inthe native language and translate into a limited vocabulary of a second langauge when needed.
Agian, there are essentially no Spanish people in Philly.
And the Census does not show heritage of people. It only shows race and whether they are Hispanic. It does not show heritage. For Hispanics, it shows coutry of origin or birth, but not for anyone else.
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fred flintstone
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Earlier immigrant groups did learn English and did assimilate. Hispanics far less so. Part of the reason is they are enabled by foreign language broadcasters (among others) not to learn English. Without foreign language broadcasting, recent immigrants would more quickly assimilate and become part of the economic and social mainstream - like people in the other groups mentioned.
BTW: The Irish speak Gaelic, the first official language of Ireland (Eireann).
OHara said:
Most of the heritages you mentioned, speak English, or are bilingual. Just because someone is Irish, doesn't mean they listen to Irish music. I'm Irish, German, and Italian, and you don't hear me cryin' for Irish, German, and Italian radio!
Why are you so against Hispanics and Spanish speaking people?
fred flintstone said:
First, the Irish do NOT speak Gaelic. It is a secondarly langauge to English, and only a small percentage of the immigrants during the Potato Famine spoke it primarily. Today, less than 10% of the Irish speak it daily. Since my father's family came during the famine years, I have a good deal of infomation and, while gaelic was more used 150 years ago, it was even then not the dominant language.
In the 19th Century, use of Irish was discouraged by the British, and its use int he national school system was prohibited until the 1870's, when this stance was softened. A relatively small percentage of Irish immigrants did not know any English uppon arrival, and these were the ones from the western and Southwestern coastal areas of Ireland, cnetered around Shannon and Limerick. Since my father's family is from an area midway between those cities, and I have been there, there is scant usage of Irish to be heard.
Hispanic assimilation, just like all other non-English speaking groups, comes in the second generation. Now, yesterday, two centuries ago. When you see the number of Spanish dominant Hispanics in any major US market vs. English dominant ones, you see it almost exactly matches the first to later generation residents. For example, 92% of Puerto Ricans under age 55 in New York city are Spanish dominant. This is because the last inbound migration of puerto Ricans ended around 1968, and the under-55 Puerto Ricans are almost all second and thirdf generation.
Other groups, in thier time had as much media in their langauge as Hispanics do today. Periodicals, etc. Chicago stillhas 4 Polish staitons. NY had italian stations through the 50's, 40 years after the last significant influx of Italians.
And Hispanic radio companies are doing thier 18-34 stations in Spanglish or English because the second generation is not a user of much Spanish media.
Kevin said:
I suspect ignorance. This is a guy who did not know there was a two year long People Meter test in Philadelphia, so how would he be expected to know anything else?
I like 50's,60's,70's,80's,90's and some of today.now I lost sunny104.5 but I got 106.1 so I look at it this way I broke even. and 106.1 plays 60's 70's and 80's just like sunny.just now we get 90's and some of today's music so 106.1 is almost like sunny.just an upgraded version!!!106.1 is a great station and they will make it. its the samething as ben fm.just 106.1 plays a much better mix.and more 60's then ben fm.
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odomski
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David: you seem to be a hispanic male. How can you tell an Irishman what language they speak? That's like telling me Hispanics don't speak Spanish.
On the subject of the original topic: Yes, this is getting old. It's just as stale as the RJ posts and Julius' demands for airchecks and ESPN Radio on FM.
On the subject of the original topic: Yes, this is getting old. It's just as stale as the RJ posts and Julius' demands for airchecks and ESPN Radio on FM.
Shawn O'Domski said:
The Census considers me Hispanic, but that proves the absurdity of the "Hispanic" term they made up in the late 70's. Hispanic is a culture, not an ethnicity, race or nationality...
I'm actually Irish-British by descent (as was Bernardo O'Higgins, the liberator of Chile). "Eduardo" is a given baptismal name, so I use my first names on this board. My Irish last name is O'Glasain, which was anglicised in the 19th Cenury to Gleason.
Maybe the other nationalities don't care about having radio stations that speak their native language. I live in Connecticut. We have a large Italian population but no full-time Italian station. Italian programming on the radio in CT is limited to the Sunday brokered shows on AM stations in Bridgeport, Waterbury, Southington, Middletown/Old Saybrook, Hartford, Newington, etc.
My best friend is Sicilian/Italian. He speaks perfect English. He speaks Italian, but not well. His family is perfectly fine just listening to the 4 1/2 hour Italian Show on the Southington Station evey Sunday. They mostly speak English around the house. They don't even spend the extra money to get the RAI Italian Network from Comcast Digital cable. He speaks Italian sometimes when he doesn't want other people to know what he's saying or to cuss out someone.
My best friend is Sicilian/Italian. He speaks perfect English. He speaks Italian, but not well. His family is perfectly fine just listening to the 4 1/2 hour Italian Show on the Southington Station evey Sunday. They mostly speak English around the house. They don't even spend the extra money to get the RAI Italian Network from Comcast Digital cable. He speaks Italian sometimes when he doesn't want other people to know what he's saying or to cuss out someone.
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