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104.5 still dead

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IndigoCoyote

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So, what gives here? Just "gone", baby? Taking their toys and going home? Or can they just not get up the hill with more diesel?
 
Well THAT was just a big fat waste of money..... don't tell me they moved all the way up here for NOTHING!
 
Why doesn't someone telephone them based on the number I left in that other thread? Honestly though, doesn't someone see one of those "financial hardship" filings in the near future? ::)

KEZQ and KWYS still seem to be playing the "activate license and document once a year to retain..." game.
 
SeattleObserver said:
Why doesn't someone telephone them based on the number I left in that other thread? Honestly though, doesn't someone see one of those "financial hardship" filings in the near future? ::)

KEZQ and KWYS still seem to be playing the "activate license and document once a year to retain..." game.

I checked the rough coverage map of KEZQ's 46,000 watts on Radio Locator and it's a hell of a spread. From Bozeman to Idaho Falls and covering every square inch of Yellowstone National Park.

And that might be just the problem.

Some may disagree with this, but I don't think there's that big of an audience for classic rock INSIDE Yellowstone National Park. Especially in the winter. The bears are sleeping, the salmon are regrouping and the caribou have better things to do.

And did I also mention it's all on top of a "Supervolcano" that a History Channel What-IF movie of the same title said could go off again. Sometime. Maybe not today, tomorrow, next year, the next millennium. But maybe.....within our lifetime. One of those films guaranteed to make you wonder just exactly how truthful those nice rangers were when they merely just said "Don't feed the bears".

And yes, I've been to Yellowstone. VERY nice country - especially the hot springs and pools. I'm just upset about the idea of the flesh burning off my bones when I'm relaxing in these pools and springs from a burp of super-concentrated sulfuric acid from the gut of the Earth. And I'm simply just not ready to die in molten magma yet. But thanks for putting up with me - Yours Truly, A Former Yellowstone Tourist.











I kinda think that drags down a station's value
 
Uh...okay Bong...'snicker'

According to the rules, a station can be silent for 10 days without Special Temporary Authority. Maybe they're just taking a few days off for the holidays?

Anyway while in our Nations Capital last night, I had the opportunity to have dinner with a TV and radio consulting engineer friend of mine. After a previous telephone conversation where I had brought up the KMCQ debate, independently he decided to have a look at the KMCQ Cougar Mt. application. According to his analysis, the 8,100 watt application on the books from Cougar Mt. would indeed just meet the interference criteria.

My bet is the licensee of KMCQ is just meeting the minimum license criteria while waiting for the FCC to act on their CP application. For that matter, my sources claim that Media Technology Ventures has at least two suitors on the hook to purchase the station, provided the Cougar Mt. CP is granted.

Until then frankly if it were me, I'd consider throwing up a 400Hz tone on 104.5 for a few days just to drive you people crazy!
 
LOL.... I remember KISW ran a 400Hz tone on some nights while off the air.

Anyways, since 104.5 going to Cougar is dead, and the snow storm obviously killed their Radio Hill site (along, from what i've seen online, some amateur radio operations), is there any other possible place they can apply for and broadcast from?  Like Indian Hill in Tacoma (The old 97.3 facility, now occupied by 91.7), or the KPLU backup site south of Port Orchard (The old KSTW tower)?  I still think if First/Alta really wants to put money into this station from Radio Hill, they better pay PSE to run lines up to that site soon.  All this time losing money without advertising on the station, they could have used to pay PSE to run lines up there, and maybe even put up some boosters/translators around the Puget Sound.  All the FCC fees, and licenses from ASCAP and BMI do quickly add up.

This is quickly becoming one of the worst failures of broadcasting in the Puget Sound, ever since the old KTVW-TV ch. 13 went off the air back in the 70s (I wasn't around back then, but I heard the full stories of that when I used to work at KCPQ).

If First/Alta do give up on 104.5 though, at least they created a new allotment for the Puget Sound area, for some future broadcaster to take the frequency, perhaps with more financial resources and stability, to do something with 104.5.
 
I also have to say, that First/Alta didn't act quickly enough, to get 104.5 on the air. That is really a prime frequency for the Puget Sound area... It's in a perfect place, between 103.7 and 105.3. If they would have acted more quickly, they could have become a 25,000 watt station from Cougar, while moving KAFE to 104.1. But now that the allotment for 104.1 in Vancouver BC has been taken, they really blew it. First started all this back in like, 2002. They should have gotten this process started ALOT sooner. Now, they are probably regretting their delays.
 
swhyde1980 said:
LOL.... I remember KISW ran a 400Hz tone on some nights while off the air.

What years do you mean? Was it off the air some nights in the mid 80s?

-crainbebo
 
As of an hour ago, KMCQ was still off the air. I really wonder if anyone at this station (or in Dallas) has a clue or even cares at this point. Certainly whatever "audience" this station might have enjoyed has all but vanished.....I guess we'll all just "stay tuned".....

I find it just mildly comical that one of the "reasons" for this station (in their CP App) was "to give Covington their first radio service"....which was FCC lingo/code for helping this poor city to dispense public information in the event of some natural local event like FLOODING, etc.,

The old holder of the frequency (KMIH) did a far better job with a lot less money or power than this station has EVER done to date. The FCC really ought to drop these guys cold and either give the channel to someone else or give it back to KMIH. They obviously served the public a whole lot better by being on the air w/a transmitter RUNNING and covering their COL, as opposed to the current static that my radio just heard againon 104.5fm.......
 
Well, too bad... Perhaps we should let them STA it off of our tower, we still have a pretty big 104.5 tuned antenna up there next to the 88.9 tuned antennas... With a 1 KW transmitter we could get about 3 KW of ERP up there since everything is rated for that much. ;)

Ah, somehow i think they will fix it given what they spent getting it and building it out. Perhaps they need to take lessons from the stations in E-WA or on tiger about how to make a station stay on in the snow. (I do in fact know a station in E-WA that ran for years without commercial electrical service, when done right it does in fact work.)

--J
 
jwvo said:
Well, too bad... Perhaps we should let them STA it off of our tower, we still have a pretty big 104.5 tuned antenna up there next to the 88.9 tuned antennas... With a 1 KW transmitter we could get about 3 KW of ERP up there since everything is rated for that much. ;)

Ah, somehow i think they will fix it given what they spent getting it and building it out. Perhaps they need to take lessons from the stations in E-WA or on tiger about how to make a station stay on in the snow. (I do in fact know a station in E-WA that ran for years without commercial electrical service, when done right it does in fact work.)

--J

They better call you soon! They are still off the air and they've been off the air long enough to the point that this won't be an easy fix for KMCQ....they might as well go with your suggestion and get something on 104.5fm if they have any hope of keeping their CP and their expansion plans in motion...
 
Community of License: THE DALLES, OR
Silent Since: 08/01/2008
Silent Reason UNKNOWN
Application Type: REMAIN SILENT AUTHORITY & SILENT NOTIFICATION
Status: DISMISSED
Status Date: 01/06/2009

Exhibit 1
Description: EXPLANATION

FIRST BROADCASTING CAPITAL PARTNERS, LLC HOLDS A CONSTRUCTION PERMIT (FILE NO. BPH-20040809ABL) TO RELOCATE BROADCAST STATION KMCQ FROM THE DALLES, OREGON TO COVINGTON, WASHINGTON. FIRST BROADCASTING HAS TERMINATED THE OPERATION OF KMCQ IN THE DALLES, OREGON IN PREPARATION FOR THE COMMENCEMENT OF OPERATIONS IN COVINGTON, WASHINGTON. FIRST BROADCASTING WILL NOTIFY THE COMMISSION WHEN THE STATION'S RELOCATED OPERATIONS COMMENCE AND WILL SUBMIT A CORRESPONDING APPLICATION FOR LICENSE.

No Application for License show yet in the somtimes incomplete & slow FCC online database. If that application has arrived at the Portals it makes the STA application moot so they'll dissmiss it.
 
jwvo said:
Well, too bad... Perhaps we should let them STA it off of our tower, we still have a pretty big 104.5 tuned antenna up there next to the 88.9 tuned antennas... With a 1 KW transmitter we could get about 3 KW of ERP up there since everything is rated for that much. ;)

--J

I LOVE THAT IDEA! Run KMCQ from the server farm in the KMIH shack and broadcast from the ROCK with 3 kilowatts. 'cept just one problem, they couldn't throw a 70 dbu over Covington. But it probably wouldn't matter since it's just an STA. :p
 
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