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104.5 The Zone vs. 102.5 The Game

It looks like the battle for Sports Supremacy between 104.5 The Zone and 102.5 The Game is starting to heat up. On the last Saturday of February, The Zone held its 4th Annual Sports Fest at the Nashville Convention Center, an all day event featuring guest speakers UT head football Coach Butch Jones, WKU's Booby Patrino and other well known sports figure from across the state. Today, George Plaster and members of 102.5 The Game announce the First Annual Music City Sports Festival to be the first event held at the new Music City Convention Center in a few weeks. Or as George Plaster call it, "The only true Sports Festival held in Nashville". Why not come up with your own event instead of trying to copy the same event that your former station and now competing station only held a few weeks earlier? Does this also mean that a few weeks after The Zone holds it's their annul Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon that The Game is going to hold their own version, too?
 
The rating aren't close are they? I can't get the game in my area, but I do get George's show. I prefer 3HL.

I really question the move of The Game adding Dave Ramsey too.
 
jwk1979 said:
Or as George Plaster call it, "The only true Sports Festival held in Nashville". Why not come up with your own event instead of trying to copy the same event that your former station and now competing station only held a few weeks earlier? Does this also mean that a few weeks after The Zone holds it's their annul Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon that The Game is going to hold their own version, too?

Uh, jwk, I hate to tell you this, but George (with then WGFX Sales and Promotions manager Chris Kulick) is the one who started the Sports Fest that the Zone continues today. It is his own event, but somebody else gets to do it now because they're holding the rights to it. He's really only copying from himself. George also started the Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon. His ideas, but still owned by the Zone.

Of course, George even had a lot to do with getting 3HL going, the show that's trouncing him now. The Zone is his legacy; he has so much to do with its success. It's like trying to live up to your own legend.
 
Unfortunately, personalities cannot overcome coverage.
 

Uh, jwk, I hate to tell you this, but George (with then WGFX Sales and Promotions manager Chris Kulick) is the one who started the Sports Fest that the Zone continues today. It is his own event, but somebody else gets to do it now because they're holding the rights to it. He's really only copying from himself. George also started the Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon. His ideas, but still owned by the Zone.

[/quote]Yes, I'm aware both Sports Fest and the Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon were both created by George Plaster while he was at the Zone. I just see as an act of Desparation to hold a simular event with a very simular name so soon after after his former station (which holds the rights to Sports Fest) held there version. I wouldn't have a problem with it if it were held a little later in the year (May, June or even July) but to hold only a few weeks after the original was held just smack of desparation by Plaster and his crew.

As far as the Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon goes, since his show is now syndicated on the "Game Radio Network", will having a charity of a Nashville cause work in the other markets that his show is on without having a Radiothon for charities and foundations in their local markets?
 
Well at least you guys get to listen to those stations. LOL. I've moved to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and the sports stations here SUCK! ;D

And, yes, Plaz started all those events.

(the only show I DON'T miss is the Paul Kuharsky show)
 
jetfli said:
...George... is the one who started the Sports Fest that the Zone continues today. It is his own event, but somebody else gets to do it now because they're holding the rights to it. He's really only copying from himself. George also started the Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon. His ideas, but still owned by the Zone...

Reminds me of the Imus Radiothon for children with SIDS that he started back in the old Westwood One days. He now does the same thing at his current Cumulus-syndicated show.
 
DToTheJ said:
jetfli said:
...George... is the one who started the Sports Fest that the Zone continues today. It is his own event, but somebody else gets to do it now because they're holding the rights to it. He's really only copying from himself. George also started the Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon. His ideas, but still owned by the Zone...

Reminds me of the Imus Radiothon for children with SIDS that he started back in the old Westwood One days. He now does the same thing at his current Cumulus-syndicated show.
My concern about both the Music City Sports Festival and the Charles Davis Foundation Radiothon, is this market big enough for two competing stations to hold simular events just weeks apart, when they are going after the same market? Why not come up with an event that isn't so simular to the event your old station now sponsers?
 
Remember when 104.5 was WGFX The Fox. Have and old clipboard with a bumper sticker on it.
 
kg4cyb said:
Remember when 104.5 was WGFX The Fox. Have and old clipboard with a bumper sticker on it.

Yeah, good classic rock, i thought they were better than the current 105.9 the rock. I have some old stickers and a t shirt of the fox. Wish i had some of their old air checks.
 
Rocker62 said:
kg4cyb said:
Remember when 104.5 was WGFX The Fox. Have and old clipboard with a bumper sticker on it.

Yeah, good classic rock, i thought they were better than the current 105.9 the rock. I have some old stickers and a t shirt of the fox. Wish i had some of their old air checks.
The Fox was one of my favorite stations to listen to back in the late 80s/early 90s (right after Rebel 100 in 1987/88). I always prefered to them over 103 KDF in those days. Tommy and Paul in the morning in 1989/90 and when they left Tom Boodle for a few years until they became the awlful 104.5 the Arrow. I had heard that Tom Boodle passed away a few years ago. Is that true?
 
I'm waiting to see if any sports teams relocate when their contracts are up? Take Vandy football for instance. They don't really fit WLAC's format.

Dave Ramsey? Who knows. Everybody was quiet about why WWTN dropped him.

I'm sure some folks at 102 figured his name value would be a plus.
But another question would have been...had 102 not picked up Ramsey here, who would have? While having an audience the show has peaked in many markets and each year they quietly loose some and adjust (often with smaller signals) in more markets than gets press coverage.
 
If you've ever listened to Dave Ramsey once, you've basically heard every show he has ever done. It pretty much the same format for 20 years or so with just a few suttle differences. One of the dieffernces that I've noticed that he use to that if you follow his formula, no matter what you're income level, it will work, whether you make $10,000 a year or $100,000 a year. Now, he tells callers that make $120,000 that they have an Income problem.

He has also quit touting the $1000 cars. A friend of mine bought one of Dave Ramsey's $1000 cars and then had to spend another $2500 to $3000 just to get it road worthy.
 
jwk, it reads like Dave Ramsey held the title and personally sold the car when you wrote, "... He has also quit touting the $1000 cars. A friend of mine bought one of Dave Ramsey's $1000 cars...".

I think Ramsey's point is to be a smart shopper, get the most you can for the buck, haggle, pay in cash, cash brings down prices, knowledge is king. Although your friend had a bad experience buying a used car, I bought a '98 Saturday 150K miles for $1400 cash over a year ago--with no added repairs. I am fortunate that the guy who sold me the car is a mechanic. Got to say I am very pleased with price.

I agree with you that Ramsey's advice is cookie cutter, and it works.
 
jwk1979 said:
Rocker62 said:
kg4cyb said:
Remember when 104.5 was WGFX The Fox. Have and old clipboard with a bumper sticker on it.

Yeah, good classic rock, i thought they were better than the current 105.9 the rock. I have some old stickers and a t shirt of the fox. Wish i had some of their old air checks.
The Fox was one of my favorite stations to listen to back in the late 80s/early 90s (right after Rebel 100 in 1987/88). I always prefered to them over 103 KDF in those days. Tommy and Paul in the morning in 1989/90 and when they left Tom Boodle for a few years until they became the awlful 104.5 the Arrow. I had heard that Tom Boodle passed away a few years ago. Is that true?

Tommy and Paul were great and Boodle Rob and Rox were really good as well as 'Nashville's Homegrown Morning Show'. And its true,. Boodle did pass away several years ago.
 
courier37027 said:
jwk, it reads like Dave Ramsey held the title and personally sold the car when you wrote, "... He has also quit touting the $1000 cars. A friend of mine bought one of Dave Ramsey's $1000 cars...".

I think Ramsey's point is to be a smart shopper, get the most you can for the buck, haggle, pay in cash, cash brings down prices, knowledge is king. Although your friend had a bad experience buying a used car, I bought a '98 Saturday 150K miles for $1400 cash over a year ago--with no added repairs. I am fortunate that the guy who sold me the car is a mechanic. Got to say I am very pleased with price.

I agree with you that Ramsey's advice is cookie cutter, and it works.
I realized that after I posted. I should have mentioned that he had a deal with local car lots in each city he was in where they had "MoneyGame Cars'' (what his show was known as prior to becoming the Dave Ramsey Show). Most of those cars were priced between $1000 to $2000 each. The reason he quit endorsing those cars was because, for the most parts, they were usually the crappiest cars on the lot and that was reflecting back badly on him. For the most part, the only place to get a good quality car at a low price (below $2000) is from aa individual , not a car lot.
 
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