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104.7 Translator signs on in Cranston.

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necrat123

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W284BA, 104.7, signed on with 38 watts of power non directional from a tower on Eddy St in Cranston. The translator is relaying WTKL "KLove" 91.1 over at the UMass Dartmouth tower. So KLove on 91.1 isn't good enough, you can now hear it on 104.7 too!
 
I wish these religious outfits would go away. EMF, Calvary & even the Seekonk church. This is New England! Go back down south! In Jacksonville you can hear ~20 religious stations! All this area needs is to put WARV on 990. That's IT! Especially xlators should be gone! We can't have L.P.F.M.s but xlators can go on air?
 
How far south does the new 104.7 translator stretch? Interestingly, in the summer at least, WOCN/Ocean 104.7 reaches Narragansett, South Kingstown, and Aquidneck Island nearly perfectly.
 
Yes, the 990 signal has much to be desired but it seems the potential audience for religious programming would be out towards the "rural" parts of R.I. anyway. 1220 is the perfect signal for Spanish station as its signal hits where the Hispanic population primarily lives (Providence, Pawtucket, Central Falls, West Warwick) without going too much past that like 1110 does. As for 1590 that could make a good Kent County full-service station a la WOON. The Providence Bruins I'm sure would love to have coverage down that way (especially into East Greenwich) & probably the Paw Sox as they could go off of 1,000-watt WLKW & onto 5,000-watt 1590. That leaves 990 & WRJI. Why WRJI airs on 91.5 in East Greenwich, where its potential audience is probably less than in Providence, I have no idea. All I can think of is that it was all they could get. As for 990, again it seems best suited for a religious format as its signal has to essentially "travel down Rt. 7" to get to Providence. The northern & western parts of R.I. seem to be more "conservative" in their religious & political leanings than Providence itself. Yes, 990's signal is pointed towards the ocean but it has to get through 40 miles of land before it hits the ocean!

Well then 104.7 must be better than 93.7 as it gets killed in the QRM in Kent Heights, East Providence. Again, how did the F.C.C. ever OK 2 xlators just .4Mc from 2 full-power stations?! If they can do that then L.P.F.M.s should be allowed to do the same as they are more likely to "serve" their audience!
 
N1WVQ said:
...it seems the potential audience for religious programming would be out towards the "rural" parts of R.I. anyway.
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So people who live in the city aren't religious? How do you draw that conclusion?
 
N1WVQ said:
I wish these religious outfits would go away. EMF, Calvary & even the Seekonk church. This is New England! Go back down south! In Jacksonville you can hear ~20 religious stations! All this area needs is to put WARV on 990. That's IT! Especially xlators should be gone! We can't have L.P.F.M.s but xlators can go on air?
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Go away? Who are you to tell them what to do? Either don't listen or pony up the cash and buy the station. But as long as they hold the license, they can do whatever they please.
 
No, the conclusion that I draw from living in the area almost all of my 29+ years is this: people are overwhelmingly Catholic around here, whilst the 3 religious stations air primarily Protestant programming (be it Pentecostal, Southern Baptist, etc.), or non-denominational (Charismatic or normal). Having lived the remainder of my time on the 1st Coast of Florida which is predominately Southern Baptist is that it works better down there. Yes, I understand the stations that are broadcasting their mission are trying to convert people (WRJI & 1220), I don't really see the Catholics being swayed by either station (English on 1220 & Spanish-speaking on 91.5) to convert. If anything, maybe Relevant Radio or EWTN, maybe. It's akin to broadcasting an all-Jewish format. That audience, however, could be served on an L.P.F.M.! Shine would probably be better served on an L.P.F.M. as well! If 93.7 & 104.7 can be added as translators then it can also be used of L.P.F.M. purposes (despite what the F.C.C. & N.A.B. say). Put Shine on 91.9! With a few changes @ the F.C.C. coming, we'll see what the rule on 2nd- & 3rd-adjacents becomes.

The issue is stations not being efficiently utilized. Since this is my opinion I will voice it: 1220 is better for a Spanish-language format, 1590 for a Kent County local & 990 for a religious format (most likely WARV or a WARV/old WRIB hybrid). Plus, it's been said by some engineers that 990 really isn't running full-tilt.

By the way Jeff, I remember when we were both @ B101. I used to help Jed voicetrack.

Also, if I had the $ I would. If I get the $, I will!
 
My point is that if I own a radio station and I want to run an endless loop of bird chirping sound effects, that's my business.

If you still talk to Jed, tell him I said hello. I'd like to work his station on HF one of these days.
 
Yes, that is your business but as one of the things about this boards is that by nature it allows people to play virtual P.D., G.M., C.E. or whatever, that's what I was doing. The owners don't have to take any suggestions here. But if I did have the money to buy those stations, I would & change them accordingly.

I haven't spoken with Jed in probably over a year now. We went to a burger shack in Riverside (called the Breakfast Nook or something) a while back (when he was selling insurance) but I haven't heard from him since. He used to be on 80/75m (I think on 3930). He has a couple of 222 repeaters locally in North Providence (224.92) & Newport (223.82) but I never hear him on there. He used to be on 447.025.

As for me I'm usually on 222. I have 10m in the car but hardly ever turn it on. Not much of an H.F. setup otherwise. I have a couple of (SB-303/401) a Swan in the basement ready to go on the air. It's just the antenna. Not much space here in E.P. for backyards.

I forgot, did you have an N1 call or something else?
 
jeffryan said:
My point is that if I own a radio station and I want to run an endless loop of bird chirping sound effects, that's my business.

If you still talk to Jed, tell him I said hello. I'd like to work his station on HF one of these days.
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Jed and I have been talking about getting on HF on a more regular basis again. We had quite a crew on 3930 (and/or 3933) a few years ago, but some of the key guys that held the group together moved away, so it kinda fell apart. We had some pretty good radio discussion going on there for a while. We had a couple other broadcast radio people on there at times, Chuck W1AEK, who was an engineer for Citadel in Portland at the time, and Dennis (Johnny Dark) W4FUN, who had been on the air on WRKO and WHTT around here years ago.

Also, Jay, the 224.920 repeater is hopefully going to get a complete and total overhaul within the next month or so. Once that happens, I have a feeling it will suddenly become a lot more active.
 
I hope 224.92 does get a complete overhaul! 223.92 sadly has apparently run into a problem. It was feeding itself back or something like that. Oh, were you on an H.T. yesterday before Noon? I was listening to 224.06 & heard a couple of guys when an H.T. came on. I thought they said it was you.

Anyway, let's get more activity on 222! Sorry that the 3930/3933 group isn't as active as it once was. It probably is in the valley of a wave.

73,
Jay
 
Touching on the 990/1220/1590 situation, I agree that 990 would be the place for WARV, adding non-duplicated stuff from the old WRIB. 990 is not even close to running 50 kW during the day; the place needs a LOT of work, so I'm told. For a better night signal it would have to go to 2 different patterns day and night. It could then probably get something on the order of 10 kW at night and still protect Rochester and the 990 here in Philly. I'd put the 1450 format on 1590 and nove the 1450 to Wickford so North Kingstown would have a local service, with the WKFD calls taken from the Charlestown CP on 1370 that may never be built.
 
When I worked @ Clear Channel, Mountain Man said that 990 would be better off taking down 3 towers & dropping power to 10kW. That way the pattern could be let out a little bit. I think the current nighttime limiting factor for WALE is the 990 in Puerto Rico. Anything higher than 5kW & there would be interference to that station (WPRA I think) on Puerto Rican soil. I also wonder if it could diplex off of 1290's array in North Providence @ 10kW.

Dave, you're absolutely right about adding non-dupe WRIB programming. As for 1450 it couldn't be moved because it's West Warwick's only local service. HOWEVER, if 1370 isn't built before that C.P. expires, what's to stop someone from applying for a new WKFD-Wickford? I've looked @ the data & 1380's signal is less than .32mV/m in 02852. Also, WALK doesn't appear in the list of station I used. As for Charlestown, there are seemingly a couple of frequencies that could be used there. Maybe sell it to Judson so they can have WCRI (AM) with WCNX's programming.
 
It should be noted that W229AN 93.7 is also on the air, from (almost) underneath the eastern end of the Washington Bridge. It's on a pole mounted to the side of the old WRIB building down on Water St. in East Providence. Where I live in Riverside, I get no trace of the signal at all. 104.7, however, is unfortunatley gangbusters. So much for that DX frequency.
 
DG02816 said:
Touching on the 990/1220/1590 situation, I agree that 990 would be the place for WARV, adding non-duplicated stuff from the old WRIB. 990 is not even close to running 50 kW during the day; the place needs a LOT of work, so I'm told. For a better night signal it would have to go to 2 different patterns day and night. It could then probably get something on the order of 10 kW at night and still protect Rochester and the 990 here in Philly. I'd put the 1450 format on 1590 and nove the 1450 to Wickford so North Kingstown would have a local service, with the WKFD calls taken from the Charlestown CP on 1370 that may never be built.
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Dave:

If I'm not mistaken, some dribs and drabs of WRIB's old programming have re-surfaced on 1320 WARL, including some of the pre-recorded Catholic religious programs, and "The Armenian Hour", on Sunday mornings.

And...Speaking of CP's that may never be built...Isn't time running out for Alex Langer to either sell, or actually DO something with that CP he holds for the 1140 in Greenville? (27000 watts days / 1200 watts nights from a proposed 6 tower array in Greenville somewhere near Route 44).

As for 990...the very fact that it somehow managed to stay on the air this past year just goes to prove that...even in the 21st. Century...an AM station license is still valuable enough that an owner will do just about anything to hang onto it ;D
 
I try listening to 10-X (#73256) on 28.38 & 28.8 as well as on 29.1 AM & 29.6 FM. When I was in Fl. in 2001, 10M was active all over the place. I talked to Luxembourg, heard Germany & the U.K. as well. I can look it up but what class license do you have?
 
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