105.1 Manchester, NH ?

[FTL_Ian]

there is more bad engineering than good Ian, Today I wanted to listen to the NASCAR race on WGIR 101.1, but I was in Boston so all I got was splash from 101.3 a pirate.

So then I want to listen to 106.3 out of Nashua, oops pirate on 106.1 blew that idea out of the water.

The Boston area radio market is fully saturated. Using good engineering practices and principles there isn't a vacant spot on the FM dial.

If someone wants to do legit Part 15 broadcasting and not interfere with an existing station, have at it, I'm in favor of it.

But when someone throws up a radio station that interferes with public safety, and tramples on the rights of others, I tend to object.

If and when Internet based car audio ever comes to be, and at some point it will, everyone can be on the radio.

As a pilot, and holder of a First Class FCC ticket, I don't want to be the guy who has the name victim in front of his name because some unlicensed station screwed up my communications with the tower.
http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/a...te-fm-shut-for-interfering-with-logan-airport

Maybe you should move to Manchester if you want to listen to Manchester radio, or try their streams? I don't see why a pirate in Boston should care what Manchester broadcasters are doing. They aren't his broadcast neighbors. As long as they aren't stepping on existing local signals - there is no harm being done.

 

[Deleted User]

I live in Southern NH.

106.3 is considered in the Boston market for the purposes of ratings, I tend to listen to stations as far as Plymouth Ma (99.1 where I was offered a gig last spring) Marshfield MA ( 95.9 WATD, a station that knows why local radio works and has the awards to prove it, plus I have many friends working there)

There is a pirate in Lowell on 99.1 that keeps me from listening to WPLM.

Look at where WGIR FM, WFNQ FM and some of the other Southern NH stations place in the Boston PPM ratings. Pretty respectable if you ask me. Same for Providence and Worcester stations.WAAF ring a bell?

Although Providence and Worcester are book markets, the close proximity of New England cities to each other , especially when people commute across state lines regularly to go to work, makes the fact the stations may be in other states moot. They are rated in the Boston market.

We are talking as the crow flies distances of 60 nautical ( 70 statute miles) miles from Manchester airport to Marshfield Airport. I think I should be able to listen to a Class B FM 40 miles from their stick. Especially if it is in their distant/ 50dBu contour. I may not have as much right to complain about 106.3 as where I was fell in their 40dBu contour, but in the engineering world, it is still a protected area.

And why are there provisions in place for spacing? So that everyone doesn't end up keying up all over each other making the whole spectrum unusable.


For the same reason you don't sink your drinking water well next to your septic tank, you don't put radio stations next to each other. You need spacing!

 

[Deleted User]

P.S.

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=174451.20

 

[raccoonradio]

Didn't get to Keene but did drive through Manchester today (stopping at a lovely pond/park
just off US 3)--the 105.1 signal was pretty much through the city of Manchester but not
too much beyond. A show with some guy talking about inflation, deflation, charting economics
on x and y axes...and I thought, while I may share some Libertarian tendencies, I finally
found a station just about as boring as Air America

Oh and the signal may have been slightly off frequency or SOMETHING was weird. Every
time an s was said it was off-kilter.

 

[raccoonradio]

>>No one has the right to have a radio station

Watch someone put a pirate right next to 105.1 or any other pirate like that. Waaah,
suddenly you can't hear your wonderful pirate station because some OTHER illegal
broadcaster decided to set up shop there! It would be poetic justice in a way eh?
This is why we have the FCC.

 

[pqgeorge]

>>No one has the right to have a radio station

Watch someone put a pirate right next to 105.1 or any other pirate like that. Waaah,
suddenly you can't hear your wonderful pirate station because some OTHER illegal
broadcaster decided to set up shop there! It would be poetic justice in a way eh?
This is why we have the FCC.

I noticed some over-modulation last evening on that station, myself. It doesn't sound like they're using much peak limiting/processing, if any. It also sounded like the PLL section of the transmitter creates a definite "tick" every few seconds with the internal clock on the chip (which creates the initial operating frequency of 105.1 MHz). The sibilance of the "s" sound is probably wreaking havoc on the PLL itself (due to the over-modulation). Sounds like a semi-home brew unit (probably not FCC type-approved). The power supply has a noticeable hum during quiet passages (which suggests poor regulation or RF getting into it). Oh, well. They're probably running about 10-20 watts on a high stick or 100 watts on a low stick.

 

[HD_Ready]

snore

>>No one has the right to have a radio station

Watch someone put a pirate right next to 105.1 or any other pirate like that. Waaah,
suddenly you can't hear your wonderful pirate station because some OTHER illegal
broadcaster decided to set up shop there! It would be poetic justice in a way eh?
This is why we have the FCC.

I noticed some over-modulation last evening on that station, myself. It doesn't sound like they're using much peak limiting/processing, if any. It also sounded like the PLL section of the transmitter creates a definite "tick" every few seconds with the internal clock on the chip (which creates the initial operating frequency of 105.1 MHz). The sibilance of the "s" sound is probably wreaking havoc on the PLL itself (due to the over-modulation). Sounds like a semi-home brew unit (probably not FCC type-approved). The power supply has a noticeable hum during quiet passages (which suggests poor regulation or RF getting into it). Oh, well. They're probably running about 10-20 watts on a high stick or 100 watts on a low stick.

 

[pqgeorge]

snore

>>No one has the right to have a radio station

Watch someone put a pirate right next to 105.1 or any other pirate like that. Waaah,
suddenly you can't hear your wonderful pirate station because some OTHER illegal
broadcaster decided to set up shop there! It would be poetic justice in a way eh?
This is why we have the FCC.

I noticed some over-modulation last evening on that station, myself. It doesn't sound like they're using much peak limiting/processing, if any. It also sounded like the PLL section of the transmitter creates a definite "tick" every few seconds with the internal clock on the chip (which creates the initial operating frequency of 105.1 MHz). The sibilance of the "s" sound is probably wreaking havoc on the PLL itself (due to the over-modulation). Sounds like a semi-home brew unit (probably not FCC type-approved). The power supply has a noticeable hum during quiet passages (which suggests poor regulation or RF getting into it). Oh, well. They're probably running about 10-20 watts on a high stick or 100 watts on a low stick.

Well, I guess it sounds just as much of a "snore" as an HD Radio. Not much happening there, that's for sure. Good night!

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

I assumed on a forum for people who love radio there would be some appreciation of those who desire to be free to use the air waves. Instead, all I see is blind obedience to and worship of bureaucrats and whatever stupid words on papers were written down by stupid politicians from decades ago. Disgusting.

There is no "freedom" to use the airwaves and never has been, mostly because neither you nor anyone else can rewrite the laws of physics (laws which have not changed from "decades ago"). Several decisions of the US Supreme Court have upheld the government's power to regulate radio. There is also no "freedom" to interfere with other broadcasters who have licenses...the electronic equivalent of interrupting when someone else is talking.

People like you never seem to understand that no freedom is ever absolute, and with freedom comes responsibility and respect for others. Most of us learned this when we were children. If you wish to live in a civilized society, you abide by its rules and you must expect to be punished when you disobey those rules. If you don't like those rules, work to change them...but don't be surprised when your flaunted disobedience of those rules lands you in jail or earns you a hefty fine.

 

[FTL_Ian]

The supreme court upholds the government most of the time - not a surprise, considering they are part of the government.

The stations in question are responsible and respecting others - they are broadcasting on open channels. Good luck changing the rules in DC - not gonna happen. I'd rather support the heroes who break them.

We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" ~Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from Birmingham Jail," Why We Can't Wait, 1963

 

[FTL_Ian]

As an aside, shouldn't this post be on the NH forum or at least the Northern New England forum? Manchester is certainly not Boston.

 

[raccoonradio]

Manchester-Boston Regional Airport would beg to differ, but, yes...

 

[Deleted User]

yes lets send it to a section of the forums where nobody will ever see it.

 

[HD_Ready]

take a ride down Cartier Street and look up

 

[beantownradio25]

Was in Manchester today for hockey and heard 105.1. The signal is very quiet and I don't think this pirate has any big effect on JYY's signal in Manchester as someone else said. The processing sounds very tinny. If it was first adjacent to JYY, it would be a different story.

What was the 104.9 I heard in Manchester? 104.9 The Hawk?

 

[raccoonradio]

probably though WBOQ sometimes gets up that way. Radio-locator.com says the Hawk is
38.8 miles away from Manch.