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105.1 tech questions

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I was wondering if the new owner upgraded the 105.1 signal. When it was nova the signal was poor and scratchy. Now I get it everywhere and it is clear. Also the translator 98.3 now has great coverage before you could only pick up around the zoo area. I was able to get 98.3 in Cicero and it sounds so full. Does any one know if they upgraded the signals?
 
I think I responded to this same question on another board, but here goes....
WOLF 105.1 is a licensed Class B station with 33,000 watts effective radiated power,
according to the FCC database. The recent sale did not effect license class, as is usually
the case. There is reference to a construction permit for an auxiliary transmitter at 1380 watts,
that would back up the main xmttr/antenna. Causes for the weak signal? Maybe you were tuned
in while the aux was being tested. Also, some modern transmitters can be operated at reduced
power when failure occurs in a final power amplifier module.
 
I heard that Craig personally fixed the mess that CC engineers left on 105.1. I guess the processing and stls were set wrong. And the transmitter was never "tuned up" properly. It does sound much better. Also 98.3 translator was recentley moved to the WOLF Syracuse Tower on Kirkpatrick and the power was raised to 250watts. I was very shocked that CC let the translator go in "the sale". Now that you can put AM stations on translattors that would have be perfect for WSYR or WHEN. Maybe they could have gotten SU sports back!
 
Nabru said:
I heard that Craig personally fixed the mess that CC engineers left on 105.1. I guess the processing and stls were set wrong. And the transmitter was never "tuned up" properly. It does sound much better. Also 98.3 translator was recentley moved to the WOLF Syracuse Tower on Kirkpatrick and the power was raised to 250watts. I was very shocked that CC let the translator go in "the sale". Now that you can put AM stations on translattors that would have be perfect for WSYR or WHEN. Maybe they could have gotten SU sports back!
To the best of my knowledge of FCC Rules, the "AM on FM Translator Rule" applies only to AM daytimers. As such, WHEN & WSYR do not qualify.
 
No, any AM station can now simulcast on any translator. The only rule is that translator has to pick up the AM station directly and be in the same market.
 
Nabru said:
No, any AM station can now simulcast on any translator. The only rule is that translator has to pick up the AM station directly and be in the same market.

No and no. The translator can be fed by any means, and its 60 dBu contour must be entirely contained within in the AM station's 2 mV/m daytime contour.

There is, as you correctly note, no restriction on the class of the parent station. WAUB, for instance, is a class B fulltime station, and it has a translator on 98.1.
 
Scott Fybush said:
Nabru said:
No, any AM station can now simulcast on any translator. The only rule is that translator has to pick up the AM station directly and be in the same market.

No and no. The translator can be fed by any means, and its 60 dBu contour must be entirely contained within in the AM station's 2 mV/m daytime contour.

There is, as you correctly note, no restriction on the class of the parent station. WAUB, for instance, is a class B fulltime station, and it has a translator on 98.1.

Thanks for the clarification, Scott. I clearly mis-read the rule, especially as I interpreted application to the "daytime" contour. It's all there and it's quite clear. You and Nabru are correct. Still... don't think WHEN and WSYR will be employing FM translators.
 
You never know. I can think of one instance already in which Clear Channel is using a translator to augment a big-signal, low-dial, fulltime news-talk AM: WTAG 580 in Worcester, Massachusetts, which is now heard on 94.9 as well. It's a somewhat unusual circumstance: WTAG has a wicked night null to the southeast, in a growing suburban/exurban area, and the 94.9 signal is exceptionally good as translators go. (And, IIRC, CC had the translator already anyway, so simulcasting WTAG was a no-cost way to serve the AM null area and perhaps pick up some younger-demo listeners in the core of the market, too.)
 
Note: I said they were stupid for getting rid of 98.3 in the deal. They could have put wsyr or when on it. It is too late now. No more translators left in Syracuse.
 
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