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105.3 The Spy

lurker34 said:
I don't think the signal is as big of an issue as the format. The format is what you make it. You can choose to make it commercially successful, or have the coolest sounding station with a .2 share. The jury is still out on that since I hear the format being tweaked.

Now, on to the signal. Is the tower on MacArthur interfering with the 105.3 frequency? Because I can get the signal from Midwest City to Guthrie, but not between NW 36 & NW 16 on MacArthur. What gives?
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I think the 104.9 tower does cause some of the issues you describe. I live in the same area, and the signal improves when driving away from the tower in any direction. It seems to do the worst when driving east on 23rd Street. The signal doesn't improve until you get close to Portland Ave. Scary thing is, I got the 105.3 signal better when in the SE Choctaw area than I do at home near the 104.9 tower.

I think the music mix is improving daily. It definitely seems to help having Ferris do the afternoon drive. He doesn't talk too much, but the breaks in the music are nice. Most of the newer songs on the station are ones I've never heard, so hearing info about some of the songs and artists is one of my favorite parts of listening to a station (as opposed to listening to Pandora or an ipod).

Brian
 
hello4 said:
EYE The Smashing Pumpkins
MY HAPPINESS Powderfinger
WHITE DISCUSSION Live
CIRCLES Soul Coughing
SHADOWBOXER Fiona Apple
EARLY TO BED Morphine
NAKED Goo Goo Dolls
WHY’S EVERYBODY ALWAYS PICKING ON ME Bloodhound Gang
SALVATION The Cranberries
BIG BANG BABY Stone Temple Pilots
HIT The Sugarcubes
BATTLE FLAG Lo-Fidelity Allstars
LIES EMF
WHY I’M HERE Oleander
KISS THEM FOR ME Siouxsie and The Banshees
ANGRY JOHNNY Poe
YOUR WOMAN White Town
THE MORE YOU IGNORE ME THE CLOSER I GET Morrissey
IT DON’T MATTER Rehab
ABUSE ME Silverchair
MISERY Soul Asylum
JEALOUS Gene Loves Jezebel
DRAWER Summercamp
TATTVA Kula Shaker
RADIATION VIBE Fountains Of Wayne
ELEVATE MY MIND Stereo MCs
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Hey Hello4, some of those you outlined were some GREAT tracks! In fact, here I isolated some of the songs that get airplay on my 90's alternative show. ( http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12893780338 ) Honestly, until your post I thought I was the only one who remembered 90's alternative deep cuts like Summercamp's "Drawer" (WOW), Kula Shaker's "Tattva", Gene Loves Jezebel's "Jealous" and Silverchair's "Abuse Me"! (Everyone only knows "Tomorrow"). Great list, I agree that the Spy would do great adding some of these for gold.
 
My guess is that the 104.9 issue is mainly front-end overload of your radio. Sometime soon I'll try to run by there in my truck that has a very good DSP-adaptive stock radio in it (Chevy). If I drive right by and get no interference, it's got to be your radios. If I get interference I'll grab the spectrum analyzer and go see what's going on. My guess is that, even if they are emmitting a small amount of 105.3 energy from the 104.9 tower unintentionally, they most likely are totally within their legal allowable mask of emmissions. 105.3 is so dang far out there that it wouldn't take much of anything out of the 104.9 stick to create an interference zone for 105.3 near the 104.9 tower. I'll let you guys know what I figure out.
 
As an addendum to the previous post, I'll also say that IF 104.9 was putting out a bit of interference to 105.3, there are filters that Ferris and friends could put on the 104.9 antenna system to prevent it leaving the tower (with KKWD's approval, of course). Power 103.5 bought and added some filters to the Clear Channel ARS tower combiner system to reduce a 103.5 mix from leaving their tower that initially created a pretty strong interference zone for 103.5 right in the tower farm/Edmond area.
 
Thanks for looking into the interference issue. I have a portable DSP radio that I use as a spotter, and even it suffers. The spotter radio does well with first adjacent interference issues, allowing me to listen to KOCD 103.7 without any interference from KVSP 103.5, but KKWD is much closer to me than KVSP.
 
I forgot to mention that I've observed images of 104.9 at other places on the dial. Before KZLS came on air, KKWD would consistently come in at 99.7 on average radios such as my Boston Acoustics Recepter. I don't get the other images on my DSP radio, a Kchibo D96L.
 
Thanks Scooby and OKCRadioGuy. I have a stock 2007 Chevy stereo, and didn't know if that was the reason or not. I tried to get an HD radio, but they weren't available. So is HD radio going the way of AM Stereo? I really hate the 8 second delay vs. analogue. It makes remotes really interesting.
 
It sure makes for a real mess when it comes to real live remotes, for sure! TV has had to deal with it for quite some time however it has been nice that up tp this point we haven't in radio. I always thought they should have put a fixed delay in the analog signal via DSP in the reciever end to get around having to delay the analog transmission, but I guess it wasn't possible at the time due to costs. Since in practice radios that are HD are a DSP type radio, one would think it wouldn't take all that much to delay something 8 or so seconds.... I don't think HD is going away but it's certainly not a very high priority for the listeners and many of the broadcasters. To me HD radio is a solution looking for a problem to solve. The real issue was with AM yet the "HD" for AM is so terrible and expensive to install that it has become almost a complete failure.
 
OK... When I get close to the 104.9 stick I am experiencing the same issue with it wiping out 105.3. My guess, strictly based on what I'm hearing on my truck radio, is the HD hissers are the cause of the interference. Since "HD" radio takes up adjacent channels for it's transmission, it must be causing the problem. I don't know if my spectrum analyzer has the resolution to see much of what is really going on, but sometime soon I'll see what I can see. I need to take a look at what the mask aught to be in the first place. It may very well be that the HD junk legally spews up that far, but a relitively low level where it's only an issue in close to their stick. More to come...
 
http://radiomagonline.com/media/art/SpectrumMask.jpg

OK... So to translate this thing, 104.9 can spew legally up to 105.15, if my calcuations are right. See the green diagonal line on the right side? That's right on the edge of 105.3's signal of course. Our radios, even though they are really good, are being swamped by the strong adjacent noise and are capturing over to it. That's my guess. I'll pass on more as I figure it out.
 
Thanks for investigating the interference issue. I must admit that I've been listening regularly since it came on air. The playlist has changed a bit over the last few weeks, and is growing on me.

I stopped by the KINB studio on Monday afternoon, as I won a CD. Still in the same location as when it was KLGH "The Light 105 dot 3 FM." I guess that is about as far away from the transmitter that they can legally get. Ferris was there working alone, as I had expected. He seemed to be a nice guy. He said the last two weeks have been the busiest of his life.

When the 105.3 transmitter went on air back in 2000, I didn't have the reception issues when near the 104.9 stick.
 
Alright, WBIMDJ, for your entertainment, here's another batch. And to Ferris' credit, I have subsequently heard several from my original list, and he's beaten me to several of the ones that would have been on this list! No I don't claim to be influencing Ferris; I'm sure most have been floating around in his head for years if not decades. But hopefully some of these will get an "oh yeah I forgot that one" and he'll load 'em onto his computer.

To Ferris' discredit, he seems to be letting the computer program too much, and has not been putting in any separations or anything. I understand he's swamped, but hand-programming would be best. I don't need to hear:

DER KOMMISSAR After The Fire
DREAM ON Depeche Mode
ZOMBIE The Cranberries

etc. twice within a 24 hour period, please.

The new list:

MAYBE THIS DAY Kissing The Pink
STATE OF THE NATION Industry
SHINY SHINY Haysi Fantayzee
10 9 8 Face To Face (the 80s band not the heavy band that came later)
EVIDENCE Faith No More
BLUE SKY MINE Midnight Oil
LEAVE IN SILENCE Depeche Mode
HOUSE OF FUN Madness
EVERYBODY'S GOT TO LEARN SOMETIME The Korgis
AIRPORT SONG Guster
LA DI DA The Murmurs
INTO THE VOID Nine Inch Nails
PAGES Starlight Mints
I'D DO ANYTHING Dead Or Alive
COMMUNICATION The Power Station
STEAM Peter Gabriel
HEART CATCH THUMP Chainsaw Kittens
DISCOTHEQUE U2
DREAM ALL DAY The Posies
SHIP OF FOOLS World Party
SUPERSONIC Oasis
LITTLE PINK STARS Radish
CRY The Sundays
BEEN IT The Cardigans
LUCAS WITH THE LID OFF Lucas
WE RUN Strange Advance
SAY WHAT YOU WANT Texas
LAND OF HUNGER The Earons
SUGAR FREE Wa Wa Nee
ORIGINAL WRAPPER Lou Reed
DOOT DOOT Freur
ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID Simple Minds
ALL TOGETHER NOW The Farm
MOVE ANY MOUNTAIN The Shamen
GIRLS AND BOYS Blur
OUT OF MIND OUT OF SIGHT The Models
STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER Candy Flip
KISS AND TELL Brian Ferry
JOHNNY COME HOME Fine Young Cannibals
WHEN PROBLEMS ARISE Fishbone
EMERGE Fischerspooner
JUSTIFIED AND ANCIENT The KLF and Tammy Wynette
DRIVEN OUT The Fixx
UGLY GIRL Fleming and John
MONEY The Flying Lizards
FREE TO GO Folk Implosion
DREAM Forest For The Trees
GOT YOU (WHERE I WANT YOU) The Flys
WHOEVER YOU ARE Geggy Tah
HEART Pet Shop Boys
MISSIONARY MAN Eurythmics
SUPERHERO Garrison Starr
TWO TRIBES Frankie Goes To Hollywood
ARMY Ben Folds Five
I LOVE A MAN IN A UNIFORM Gang Of Four
SHE GAVE ME LOVE The Getaway People
EVERYBODY'S 1 God's Child
FALLING Gravity Kills
STEP ON Happy Mondays
DAMAGE I'VE DONE Heads
GOOD FORTUNE P.J. Harvey
LIFE Haddaway
FROM YOUR MOUTH God Lives Underwater
ANOTHER LOVER Giant Steps
LIVING IN A DREAM Pseudo Echo
TRAIN Goldfrapp
REV IT UP Jerry Harrison
I'M FINE Getaway Cruiser
ALL YOU ZOMBIES Hooters
LOVE REARS ITS UGLY HEAD Living Colour
IMITATION LEATHER JACKET H2SO4
IT'S LOVE King's X
FLY ME COURAGEOUS Drivin' N' Cryin'
CRAZY Icehouse
CAUGHT A LITE SNEEZE Tori Amos
WAIT Huffamoose
I WANNA STAY HOME Jellyfish
DIZZ KNEE LAND Dada
PRETTY WHEN YOU CRY Vast
SENSE Lightning Seeds
BODY LANGUAGE Queen
YOUR LUCKY DAY IN HELL Eels
LADYSHAVE Gus Gus
THE GLOBE Big Audio Dynamite II
DON'T NEED A GUN Billy Idol
ENEMY Days Of The New
ALL I KNOW Screaming Trees
I WAS WRONG Social Distortion
I'LL BE AROUND What Is This
BREAKAWAY Big Pig
BABY BABY Eighth Wonder
MUTUAL SURRENDER Bourgeois Tagg
 
I Listened to the Spy yesterday and I was really impressed with the Music.. Stuff I haven't heard since my college radio days at UCO (KBLZ 93, on Edmond cable FM).

I hope Ferris gets Tyson Meade back as a DJ.. I went to High School with that guy (Bartlesville College High - class of '80).

BTW I wonder if Ferris could work out a deal with the Tylers to simulcast Spy on KOJK.. not the best signal, but it would get into Norman.
 
Those two signals need to be paired up. Together, maybe with a translator downtown or ne would sort of make a radio station signal-wise.
 
billyg said:
I Listened to the Spy yesterday and I was really impressed with the Music.. Stuff I haven't heard since my college radio days at UCO (KBLZ 93, on Edmond cable FM).

I hope Ferris gets Tyson Meade back as a DJ.. I went to High School with that guy (Bartlesville College High - class of '80).

BTW I wonder if Ferris could work out a deal with the Tylers to simulcast Spy on KOJK.. not the best signal, but it would get into Norman.
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I think a simulcast on KOJK would work great. I receive KOJK's stereo broadcast better in much of the metro than I receive KINB's mono broadcast.

On a loosely related note... Since WWLS-FM moved from 97.9 to 98.1, is there any way that KOJK can move from 97.3 to 97.5 with a small power increase? Not that I would expect them to get a full 6KW, but even doubling their power to 2KW at the same height would be helpful for such a puny rimshooter. I expect they are too close to KMOD to be allowed such a move, but the thought had crossed my mind.
 
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