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106.1 K-Breeze: A Foul Wind Blowin'

It may be legal, but it shouldn't be. This is why so much of the spectrum is cluttered with translators. Translator use should be reserved for AM stations only and not rebroadcast of another FM. That would free up frequencies for LPFM.
 
stan said:
It may be legal, but it shouldn't be. This is why so much of the spectrum is cluttered with translators. Translator use should be reserved for AM stations only and not rebroadcast of another FM. That would free up frequencies for LPFM.
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Translators were originally designed to bring signals to areas where a full service station was not active but there was population...TV and FM translators were the right idea.....retransmit OTA signals to areas where there was no service.

but NOW, its retransmit everything.....sat, HD channels, AMs, etc.....NOPE...I am not in favor of that.....never was...

106.1 KISS-FM (KHKS) in Dallas had a translator near downtown one channel over because multipath killed the main signal....so a xlator was set on 106.3 and used a yagi to beam only to the affected area...That was a decent use of a translator...when a new antenna that eliminated the multipath issue was installed, the translator was deleted...

Forget that happening now..AMs should not have FM xlators, the religious sats should not and no rebroadcast of a HD signal unless its in HD! (TRANSLATOR means retrnamsission by changing the frequnecy, not the mode of emission....Also translators should go off the air when the main signal does....a lot DO NOT)...

Return translators to their original need.....other services handle what they are trying to do now.....sat, etc....and MW AM is MW AM, not VHF FM.....
 
rageradio said:
I haven't seen it posted here not sure if anyone knows but K-Breeze popped up on KMJQ 102.1 HD3 just before Christmas playing Christmas music. Still on now
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The audio level on that HD-3 is sure low - but it is much stronger in the car. The audio seems to be better quality than the translator.
 
I guess the FCC was waiting on them to get things straightened out. :p
 
ContinuousWave said:
Yeah, that 120 watts at 456 meters with MAIN lobe looking SW AND the DEEP null is really gonna cover Houston (not)...

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CW, the only reason their engineer had to do this with the directional is because of a translator or LPFM app or permit to the NE of Houston. They are working on a solution to either move it or make it go away.
 
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93QClassic.com said:
CW, the only reason their engineer had to do this with the directional is because of a translator or LPFM app or permit to the NE of Houston. They are working on a solution to either move it or make it go away.
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Just heard today that the LPFM app for 106.1 NE of Houston has now gone away, and that an app is already in preparation to modify K291ce for non directional coverage at 250 watts. The build out at Senior Road should start in a few weeks. As for the low sound on their 102.1 HD 3, they are waiting on some equipment to arrive.
 
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Just heard today that the LPFM app for 106.1 NE of Houston has now gone away, and that an app is already in preparation to modify K291ce for non directional coverage at 250 watts. The build out at Senior Road should start in a few weeks. As for the low sound on their 102.1 HD 3, they are waiting on some equipment to arrive.
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That HD-3 suffers from compression, but still sounds a lot better than 106.1. It is annoying to have to turn up the volume, then turn it down. The coverage is really a lot better on the HD-3, except for the IF image problem from passing cars. Unfortunately - 92.1 is popular and it jams 102.9 when a car tuned to it passes.
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
That HD-3 suffers from compression, but still sounds a lot better than 106.1. It is annoying to have to turn up the volume, then turn it down. The coverage is really a lot better on the HD-3, except for the IF image problem from passing cars. Unfortunately - 92.1 is popular and it jams 102.9 when a car tuned to it passes.
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???? First the discussion of 102.1.........then IF Image problem is mentioned......and then 92.1 and 102.9. None of which have anything to do with 102.1 HD-2...

Also IF from a LO is 100kHz off a main FM channel....in Houston, that should not be a problem unless the radio is manual tuned....I remember the days of the 70/80s where trying to listen to KRBE in BPT area and listeners on 93.3 KYKR would cause LO interference...for about 4-5 car lengths.....but with digital radios that does not happen anymore....AND in Houston, listening to 92.1 should not "jam" a car listening to 102.9.......
 
93QClassic.com said:
Just heard today that the LPFM app for 106.1 NE of Houston has now gone away, and that an app is already in preparation to modify K291ce for non directional coverage at 250 watts. The build out at Senior Road should start in a few weeks. As for the low sound on their 102.1 HD 3, they are waiting on some equipment to arrive.
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There is no translator going on the Senior Road tower.
 
Used to be a TV translator on there (Channel 33 for 49 when 49 was 1200ft west of Splendora)...touched its cabinet a couple of times on the 1400 ft level (but it was locked! lol)...

Senior Road Tower is a specific tower...the original ~2000 ft tower in Missouri City...well, after the 1st one fell when they were hoisting the upper half of the FM master antenna....Harris CBR #1.
 
radiogooroo said:
That is a tower, and it is located on Senior Road, but it is not THE tower everyone knows as the Senior Road Tower.
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Okay, you're right. 106.1 will share a perch with Majic 102, Fox 26, and 95.1 Radio Sangeet. Ain't Allah just great! :{
 
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Senior Road Tower is a specific tower...the original ~2000 ft tower in Missouri City...
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Yep. I know. Engineers may call it the Senior Road tower, but everybody in the area referred to the original monstrosity as the "20 Vision Antenna." We all do stupid things when we're kids. In 1984, a friend and I climbed the fence out there on a Sunday afternoon. The little elevator car had a lock on its controls, so we couldn't get up that way. I decided to climb, but changed my a couple hundred feet up. Too much climbing. Two years earlier, in 1982 I had climbed almost all the way up the tower on Old 288 Almeda Road just south of 610. I remember that clear as day -- didn't even have to climb a fence, the gate wasn't locked.
 
ContinuousWave said:
???? First the discussion of 102.1.........then IF Image problem is mentioned......and then 92.1 and 102.9. None of which have anything to do with 102.1 HD-2...

Also IF from a LO is 100kHz off a main FM channel....in Houston, that should not be a problem unless the radio is manual tuned....I remember the days of the 70/80s where trying to listen to KRBE in BPT area and listeners on 93.3 KYKR would cause LO interference...for about 4-5 car lengths.....but with digital radios that does not happen anymore....AND in Houston, listening to 92.1 should not "jam" a car listening to 102.9.......
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You are right - somehow I get 102.1 and 102.9 mixed up - I don't listen to either of them - ever. Except now for 102.1 HD-3.

But you are only partially right about the IF image problem. I have noticed IF image jamming many times, and on a few occasions been able to hear the jamming station in the other car - if they crank it up or if they have windows rolled down in nice weather. Because HD is on adjacent frequencies, it is no longer just 10.6 to 10.8 MHz below that causes problems. It is now 10.4 to 11 MHz below that causes problems. For 102.1, that would be radios in nearby cars listening to 91.1 to 91.7 - and there are two local stations in that range: 91.3 and 91.7. The car next to me doesn't have to have an HD radio to jam HD on my radio. It just has to be tuned to the right frequency. Range of the jamming is about 20 to 100 feet. Home radios have more range because they aren't shielded as well. There was one particular thorn in my side on Elrod before the Grand Parkway opened. I suspect they left the radio on 24/7 because it was never off, and always caused 107.5 HD-2 to drop for at least 2/10 of a mile. TRY IT! The stretch is from Morton to Clay - don't just take my word for it! If you have two cars, one with an HD radio - TRY IT! 10.4 to 11 MHz below - so a radio tuned to 96.5 will wipe out HD-2 on both 106.9 and 107.5! I can do it in my driveway ----
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
NO! I would appreciate no further religious reference on here.
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rbrucecarter5 ... I'm sorry. The unhappy face after my comment was meant to express sarcasm. In reference to the 106.1, I withdrew all my complaints and was all enthusiastic to watch the birth of a station that would finally put some good music on the air in Houston, Texas. Then, yesterday afternoon, I tuned in to 106.1. Was dismayed to hear a foreign language and references to Allah. It finally dawned on me where all the money for this station is coming from, and why the FCC looks the other way. While this station may currently promote Fort Bend ISD and play good music, don't forget that RAFTT makes its money by brokering stations. They don't care who programs the thing; all they're interested in is who is waving the most cash. I kinda expect to see another station like 95.1, probably sooner than you know it. After all, the 106.1 antenna bay is going to be mounted right under the one for 95.1...
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
You are right - somehow I get 102.1 and 102.9 mixed up - I don't listen to either of them - ever. Except now for 102.1 HD-3.

But you are only partially right about the IF image problem. I have noticed IF image jamming many times, and on a few occasions been able to hear the jamming station in the other car - if they crank it up or if they have windows rolled down in nice weather. Because HD is on adjacent frequencies, it is no longer just 10.6 to 10.8 MHz below that causes problems. It is now 10.4 to 11 MHz below that causes problems. For 102.1, that would be radios in nearby cars listening to 91.1 to 91.7 - and there are two local stations in that range: 91.3 and 91.7. The car next to me doesn't have to have an HD radio to jam HD on my radio. It just has to be tuned to the right frequency. Range of the jamming is about 20 to 100 feet. Home radios have more range because they aren't shielded as well. There was one particular thorn in my side on Elrod before the Grand Parkway opened. I suspect they left the radio on 24/7 because it was never off, and always caused 107.5 HD-2 to drop for at least 2/10 of a mile. TRY IT! The stretch is from Morton to Clay - don't just take my word for it! If you have two cars, one with an HD radio - TRY IT! 10.4 to 11 MHz below - so a radio tuned to 96.5 will wipe out HD-2 on both 106.9 and 107.5! I can do it in my driveway ----
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Bruce,
you are totally incorrect with your numbers. A Local Oscillator in a radio (The LO) does NOT move because of a wider input signal. A LO is a single fixed carrier......In FM radios, a LO is 10.7 MHz above the desired signal (one reason FM radios are banned on aircraft...the LO can interfere with VOR and DME equipment onboard)

With a station running HD, the LO is still on the original frequency for the analog carrier. The HD carriers are on either side of the main carrier and are converted by the LO to sides of the 10.7 analog IF signal. This signal does NOT radiate (if it did, analog radios would have been interfering with each other on ALL frequencies for decades)...sorry your "facts" are totally incorrect. A PLL tuned radio will have a rock stable LO 10.7MHz above the signal it is receiving...Only one. The 10.6 to 10.8MHz issue was a problem with analog/manual tuned radios...but with PLL tuned radios, that does not happen anymore. A radio digitally tuned to 96.5 will only cause issues with a station on 107.2. That issue only happens with cheap home table top and cheap Walkman style radios but with the PLL circuits being as they are, it's cheaper to make a radio with a digital tuner (NOT HD here) than a manual tuner. However, there are still cheap table top FM radios manually tuned...if more than 100kHz off center, they COULD cause a problem but not the distance you claim....the LO does not shift +/- 400kHz while receiving the FM signal...IF someone had a radio at a home causing a problem over a 600khz spread, the radio was defective and should not have been radiating a LO for 1/5 of a mile anyway. Part 15 rules do not allow radios to be sold with that kind of leakage, etc. Home radios must meet the same Part 15 radiation limits as car models do.

Also HD on FM is redundant. A LO at 107.2, IF it interfered with HD carriers on the low side of 107.5, would not cause issues with the HD carriers above the 107.5 analog signal. This feature was built into HD to provide redundancy in the case of interference.

Sorry your argument doesn't hold water.
 
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