anyone on here been listening to the true oldies channel?? thoughts/comments??
(bob) oldie king,..............what do you think of it??
(bob) oldie king,..............what do you think of it??
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Actually Brian, I only listened to it for about 15 minutes on the road when word of it was first posted here. I think that was the first time I've listened to terrestrial radio in over a year. The presentation sounded mostly polished and reasonably tight but the 5 or 6 songs I heard were routine dime a dozen oldies. I heard Shannon's voice once the entire time in a "nothing" canned break.
I'll have to give it another fair listen for an hour or two and give you a better opinion. But no matter how it's packaged and presented, if they are playing the same old worn out 200 oldies KOOL was playing at the end, I will quote the legendary and innovative radio icon Poppa Stoppa:
"Same old soup warmed over."
More in a few days.
Bob
I'll have to give it another fair listen for an hour or two and give you a better opinion. But no matter how it's packaged and presented, if they are playing the same old worn out 200 oldies KOOL was playing at the end, I will quote the legendary and innovative radio icon Poppa Stoppa:
"Same old soup warmed over."
More in a few days.
Bob
OK Brian, I am responding to your inquiry about my opinion of this oldies station. To all readers, I am answering it here, hoping it will be accepted by others as strictly my opinion after 40+ years in the biz and specializing in oldies during most of that time, because my "take" was requested.
I think this station is not the same old soup warmed over.
It's the same old crap warmed over.
Scott Shannon? Big deal. You never hear him and it's just a canned "hello" when you do. I never was impressed by him when he worked in Mobile or New York. He's canning a drab syndicated station because of his name and that he worked in New York to get affiliates. But Scott Shannon is...dull. I had offers and opportunities to go to New York as well during my career, but I chose to keep my wife and family here where they wanted to be. So if they invited me to NY as well, you know their standards aren't too high.
This station is nothing but the same old deck of 300 cards, each with the name of an oldie on it, the same deck all the oldies "gurus" use...and the deck is tossed in the air and whatever order the same old tired out crap song cards fall in, that's the order in which they're played. But they're still the same 300 crap oldies.
My opinion is that you can play the same songs (Top 40 in years gone by) but the presentations of the individual DJs made the difference in being #1 or #2. Now that is gone, and Scott Shannon's "name" is supposed to make people listen to the same crap?
That's my position and I'm a'stickin' to it.
C'mon, folks, no flaming...I was asked my opinion because of my experience, and I gave it.
For more expert opinion, ask Andy Holt at Entercom. This "genius", they brought him in as the KOOL 95.7 know-it-all, and we all know what a knowledgable and great job he did. Down the toilet. FRom the 9's and 10's we gave it under Muniz...to 3's and off the air. Good work, Andy.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all, and let's keep this site HOT in 2008.
Bob Walker
I think this station is not the same old soup warmed over.
It's the same old crap warmed over.
Scott Shannon? Big deal. You never hear him and it's just a canned "hello" when you do. I never was impressed by him when he worked in Mobile or New York. He's canning a drab syndicated station because of his name and that he worked in New York to get affiliates. But Scott Shannon is...dull. I had offers and opportunities to go to New York as well during my career, but I chose to keep my wife and family here where they wanted to be. So if they invited me to NY as well, you know their standards aren't too high.
This station is nothing but the same old deck of 300 cards, each with the name of an oldie on it, the same deck all the oldies "gurus" use...and the deck is tossed in the air and whatever order the same old tired out crap song cards fall in, that's the order in which they're played. But they're still the same 300 crap oldies.
My opinion is that you can play the same songs (Top 40 in years gone by) but the presentations of the individual DJs made the difference in being #1 or #2. Now that is gone, and Scott Shannon's "name" is supposed to make people listen to the same crap?
That's my position and I'm a'stickin' to it.
C'mon, folks, no flaming...I was asked my opinion because of my experience, and I gave it.
For more expert opinion, ask Andy Holt at Entercom. This "genius", they brought him in as the KOOL 95.7 know-it-all, and we all know what a knowledgable and great job he did. Down the toilet. FRom the 9's and 10's we gave it under Muniz...to 3's and off the air. Good work, Andy.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all, and let's keep this site HOT in 2008.
Bob Walker
Oldie King said:OK Brian, I am responding to your inquiry about my opinion of this oldies station. To all readers, I am answering it here, hoping it will be accepted by others as strictly my opinion after 40+ years in the biz and specializing in oldies during most of that time, because my "take" was requested.
I think this station is not the same old soup warmed over.
It's the same old crap warmed over.
Scott Shannon? Big deal. You never hear him and it's just a canned "hello" when you do. I never was impressed by him when he worked in Mobile or New York. He's canning a drab syndicated station because of his name and that he worked in New York to get affiliates. But Scott Shannon is...dull. I had offers and opportunities to go to New York as well during my career, but I chose to keep my wife and family here where they wanted to be. So if they invited me to NY as well, you know their standards aren't too high.
This station is nothing but the same old deck of 300 cards, each with the name of an oldie on it, the same deck all the oldies "gurus" use...and the deck is tossed in the air and whatever order the same old tired out crap song cards fall in, that's the order in which they're played. But they're still the same 300 crap oldies.
My opinion is that you can play the same songs (Top 40 in years gone by) but the presentations of the individual DJs made the difference in being #1 or #2. Now that is gone, and Scott Shannon's "name" is supposed to make people listen to the same crap?
That's my position and I'm a'stickin' to it.
C'mon, folks, no flaming...I was asked my opinion because of my experience, and I gave it.
For more expert opinion, ask Andy Holt at Entercom. This "genius", they brought him in as the KOOL 95.7 know-it-all, and we all know what a knowledgable and great job he did. Down the toilet. FRom the 9's and 10's we gave it under Muniz...to 3's and off the air. Good work, Andy.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all, and let's keep this site HOT in 2008.
Bob Walker
no flamin from me. its the truth!
Ok I'll flame ;D (Oops sorry that was the Burrito from that rolling taco stand in Lakeview) .... The man is allowed his opinions and even though I haven't heard it enough to make a decision, Most oldies stations now I find are cookie cutter network stuff used for mom and Pop radio stations in small towns to bring cheap programming to the middle of no where.
So Bob, I respect you and agree with you on the state of some programming sometimes
So Bob, I respect you and agree with you on the state of some programming sometimes
Sorry but, in my first post on the board, I will flame too. And, it's sad because a friend in Lafayette told me last week about the nice things people said about me on the board. Hopefully, your opinions won't change and, yes, this is my real name. To tell the truth, I don't care if your opinions change. It's still my real name though, and I'm not hiding my email.
Bob, respect your opinion regarding the music (because, according to the people on this board and your own moniker, you're the "Oldie King") but, c'mon, you couldn't carry Scott Shannon's jock as a personality or a programmer (and, programming is more than just music). I've never heard you on the air, but I have heard Scott and, you're not Scott (my apologies to former VP candidates everywhere). I worked with Scott for several years in Tampa at Q105 and on other projects, so, while I don't mean to disbarage you, you shouldn't throw dirt at Scott Shannon.
Scott Shannon is a RADIO LEGEND. Maybe he didn't have your impact in New Orleans but he programmed and built number one statons in Washington, Tampa, New York (multiple stations), Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Houston, Richmond, Portland, and others; consulted and built number one stations in dozens of markets; hosted a number one AM Drive show in multiple markets; developed the legendary Q Morning Zoo (which spawned how many imposters in the 80s and 90s?); was one of the first VJ's on VH1; launched an oldies channel and developed more talent than I could list here, and you're going to take shots at him? Get real.
Q105 in Tampa was one of the highest rated and highest billing stations in the country, and the architect was Scott Shannon. He took B/EZ stations in New York and Houston, flipped them to CHR and made them market dominant in 90 days. And, you've done what? Got a 9 or a 10 share 12+ in New Orleans 20 years ago?
If his channel was so bad and so boring, why is it on so many stations? Now, admittedly, I wouldn't have put it on Martini or on any New Orleans signal, and I'd much prefer a local station to a sat station, but that has nothing to do with Scott.
Scott Shannon will forget more about radio than you and almost everyone else will ever know. And Bob, it's not personal. I don't know you and, probably never will. I think the original post asked what people thought about the station/network, not whether you were impressed with Scott when he was in Mobile. Whether you think so or not, Scott Shannon is a VERY BIG DEAL.
I do agree with you about Andy Holt. On the couple of occassions I worked with stations against him, his stations were laughable. I'm surprised he got a 3 share here. He couldn't win in peanut markets, let alone a Top 35 (then) Market like New Orleans.
I'll go back to my internet empire now and continue playing the fill-in role, when needed, at WIST. Actually, it's past my bed time and I'll be on the road to Florida in 6 hours to wish my mom a Merry Christmas. And, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and everyone on the board as well (gotta leave with a postive).
Bob, respect your opinion regarding the music (because, according to the people on this board and your own moniker, you're the "Oldie King") but, c'mon, you couldn't carry Scott Shannon's jock as a personality or a programmer (and, programming is more than just music). I've never heard you on the air, but I have heard Scott and, you're not Scott (my apologies to former VP candidates everywhere). I worked with Scott for several years in Tampa at Q105 and on other projects, so, while I don't mean to disbarage you, you shouldn't throw dirt at Scott Shannon.
Scott Shannon is a RADIO LEGEND. Maybe he didn't have your impact in New Orleans but he programmed and built number one statons in Washington, Tampa, New York (multiple stations), Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Houston, Richmond, Portland, and others; consulted and built number one stations in dozens of markets; hosted a number one AM Drive show in multiple markets; developed the legendary Q Morning Zoo (which spawned how many imposters in the 80s and 90s?); was one of the first VJ's on VH1; launched an oldies channel and developed more talent than I could list here, and you're going to take shots at him? Get real.
Q105 in Tampa was one of the highest rated and highest billing stations in the country, and the architect was Scott Shannon. He took B/EZ stations in New York and Houston, flipped them to CHR and made them market dominant in 90 days. And, you've done what? Got a 9 or a 10 share 12+ in New Orleans 20 years ago?
If his channel was so bad and so boring, why is it on so many stations? Now, admittedly, I wouldn't have put it on Martini or on any New Orleans signal, and I'd much prefer a local station to a sat station, but that has nothing to do with Scott.
Scott Shannon will forget more about radio than you and almost everyone else will ever know. And Bob, it's not personal. I don't know you and, probably never will. I think the original post asked what people thought about the station/network, not whether you were impressed with Scott when he was in Mobile. Whether you think so or not, Scott Shannon is a VERY BIG DEAL.
I do agree with you about Andy Holt. On the couple of occassions I worked with stations against him, his stations were laughable. I'm surprised he got a 3 share here. He couldn't win in peanut markets, let alone a Top 35 (then) Market like New Orleans.
I'll go back to my internet empire now and continue playing the fill-in role, when needed, at WIST. Actually, it's past my bed time and I'll be on the road to Florida in 6 hours to wish my mom a Merry Christmas. And, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and everyone on the board as well (gotta leave with a postive).
wbennetti said:
Give me one of those corporate focus groups and Bob Walker would win hands down in this city. Did Shannon do well for himself? Sounds like it. But a listener in this city has no idea what he has done in the past.
wbennetti said:
WTF? A well thought out comment. And luck for us, he ain’t Scott. I grew up listening to Bob, CC Cortney, Cap & Scoot, even Bob Ruby. I listened to Bob on Kool and it was enjoyable. True Oldies is all Scott, all the time, just another voice that NO ONE in this city can identify with. At least the Sirius folks have some personality. Face it, it’s a format for stations that have quit. And, Mr. Shannon, a genius? He’s on 42 stations but just 4 of them in the top 40 markets. And any one of those can only scrape up a 2.3 or less…including the small markets no less. I guess he’s pocketing a few coins and good for him.
Scott Shannon is a RADIO LEGEND but not here. Put away your Scottie pom poms and get back to your internet empire….and that mega station WIST. That gives you instant credibility.
Time to go scout out a place on the levee in Vacherie to watch the bonfires Christmas Eve. Happy Holidays!
Blue - you missed some other quotes like "Maybe he didn't have your impact in New Orleans" and "I wouldn't have put it on Martini or on any New Orleans signal". Didn't say Scott was a "genius" (although brighter minds than you and I have called him that).
I'd love to hear local oldies. I'd love to hear more local programming.
A sat format should not be on a Top 50 market station unless it's a rimshot that would struggle anyway and it's trying to serve a niche.
Next time I post I'll use the word "facetious" after describing my "internet empire and fill-in WIST status". By the way, what station are you on? How many Top 10 markets have you programmed? Top 50 markets?
Again, no disrespect was meant to Bob. I was just trying to defend a man that I know, respect and worked wth, because he's a little to busy to read these boards to find out what you think of him. You want to talk about the format, fine. Talk about the music, fine. But you don't know the man and you don't know me. So, let's not get personal.
Lastly, Happy Holidays to all.
I'd love to hear local oldies. I'd love to hear more local programming.
A sat format should not be on a Top 50 market station unless it's a rimshot that would struggle anyway and it's trying to serve a niche.
Next time I post I'll use the word "facetious" after describing my "internet empire and fill-in WIST status". By the way, what station are you on? How many Top 10 markets have you programmed? Top 50 markets?
Again, no disrespect was meant to Bob. I was just trying to defend a man that I know, respect and worked wth, because he's a little to busy to read these boards to find out what you think of him. You want to talk about the format, fine. Talk about the music, fine. But you don't know the man and you don't know me. So, let's not get personal.
Lastly, Happy Holidays to all.
M
menotti1
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i think oldies king means it won't be a New Orleans oldies station.That market has a uniqueness all it's own with many legends, that most oldies stations won't play.106.1 is grasping for a format, if they get a 1.0 i'd be surprised.I don't think many in the market know who Scott Shannon is, but they know Bob Walker. Not to take anything away from Scott, he's done amazing things in radio and is very talented.The real true New Orleans oldies format was when Mr.Muniz had 105.3.Just great radio..Too many oldies are toasted and when you have a fast rotation with the same 300 songs ,it's just too much of a burn factor.The only reason i see why it's done is the thinking is most people may not listen but maybe 2 hours of radio a day, mostly in commute time.But that short playlist will kill you with in office listeners that play your station all day.Plus there are not too many agency buys for the 55 plus crowd, but hey that's another thread.But who could ever forget the Mighty 690 AM,WTIX. Great heritage...RF
You're right, menotti1. And here's my take on why N.O. will *never* accept a cookie cutter oldie station:
1. In the 50's to the mid-70's, Poppa Stoppa introduced the oldies format to New Orleans on WJMR and WNNR. He played lots of N.O. R&B, and he literally had a few steamer trunks full of old 45's. He would bring in stacks of records for each show. His collection consisted of several thousand titles and they all got played sooner or later. A N.O. native, no consultant ever told him what to play. He is still probably the best known DJ from the early rock era.
2. Cherie Your Oldies Sweetheart hosted the Hall of Fame on Sunday nights on WNOE-FM from the late 70's to early 80's. Her show was a strong #1, as oldies were beginning to resurface, and she freely played from her library of several thousand titles.
3. The TIX Original Oldie Hour, hosted by Bruce Kramer in early '79, and I took it over in April of '79 thru '83. I was appointed the custodian of our oldies library and was also responsible with building it up by borrowing records from whoever had a good collection, particularly from Steve Slumber the Oldies Professor. Our collection quickly grew to 2,000 "borrowed" oldies on cartridge, and a couple thousand more on disk. We rotated every one of those songs in our programming, and you can believe every oldie we got a request for, we had...and we played them!
4. 1989-1993: We launched Oldies 106.7 on July 4, 1989. It was the first full-time FM oldies station in N.O. It took the city by storm and routinely racked up #1's with 11's and 12's, kicking WWL and WNOE-FM. Trade mags from everywhere were calling us up to see what the hell we were doing. The manager, Harry Williams, was from out of town but trusted the judgment of the N.O. talent he had all around him. We had a good 3,000 titles, including a load of N.O. stuff, and they all got played. We would get mobbed by eager listeners when we would broadcast live all day from the Irish Channel on St. Patrick's Day. They would bombard us with requests...and we not only had, but played them all! Unfortunately the hemmorhoids at Beasley sold the station from under us to support KRTH's debts.
5. KOOL 95.7 (Ed Muniz Ownership): August 1993 - late 1997. Totally a N.O. operation. Our lineup was so trusted for their experience that we never even had a program director during those years. Library size: 3,000-4,000 titles including CDs and vinyl, and every popular song by a N.O. artist that you ever heard of. And we played them all. The result: a FM Oldies blowtorch that was watched and studied by dozens of stations around the country.
6. KOOL-95.7: late 1997-early 2000. Station bought by Sinclair Broadcasting. The consultant Frank Bell felt like "if something's not broke don't fix it". He let us all stay in charge of the station and the ratings were still consistantly Top 5. He didn't interfere with our extensive library.
7. The Demise: 2000-2006. Station bought by Entercom and they brought in the genius Andy Holt. His first action was to erase all but about 200 songs on the Dalet, plus got rid of our CDs and vinyl. In another endearing move to his close-kniit staff, he put a binder in the studio with the 200 or so titles now on the playlist, with a big note on the front cover saying "ZERO TOLERANCE ALLOWED ON PLAYLIST". For chrissakes, one of the first things he did was to remove "All These Things" by Art Neville and substituted the version by the Uniques instead, because "that was the version he remembered where he grew up!" The request line became a joke...we had to offer suggestions to callers from within the 200 songs. So there we were, suddenly being led by a control freak who didn't know crap about N.O. or its oldies tradition (and still hasn't a clue). We also had liner sheets and he made us read them verbatim, with no tolerance for ad libs or personality. Quite a sudden dousing of cold water on listeners after basically knowing what to expect from their oldies stations for many years.
The rest is history. The best oldies market in the country slid quickly and was floundering around a 2 or 3 at the end, when 90% of the oldies the long-time audience loved and grew up with were suddenly gone forever.
Thru the years the listeners got plenty of what they wanted to hear, played by real people in the studio that they considered friends. I know times change and things change. But this, in my opinion, is why N.O. will never support Scott Shannon's voice tracked station or any other sterile one like it playing the same old crap, including if Andy Holt ever brought KOOL back. If Entercom is ever so inclined in that direction they'd do better to get rid of Andy Holt and hire someone from here who knows what New Orleans wants to hear.
Just my opinion... Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all.
And no offense taken, bennetti. That's what forums are all about.
1. In the 50's to the mid-70's, Poppa Stoppa introduced the oldies format to New Orleans on WJMR and WNNR. He played lots of N.O. R&B, and he literally had a few steamer trunks full of old 45's. He would bring in stacks of records for each show. His collection consisted of several thousand titles and they all got played sooner or later. A N.O. native, no consultant ever told him what to play. He is still probably the best known DJ from the early rock era.
2. Cherie Your Oldies Sweetheart hosted the Hall of Fame on Sunday nights on WNOE-FM from the late 70's to early 80's. Her show was a strong #1, as oldies were beginning to resurface, and she freely played from her library of several thousand titles.
3. The TIX Original Oldie Hour, hosted by Bruce Kramer in early '79, and I took it over in April of '79 thru '83. I was appointed the custodian of our oldies library and was also responsible with building it up by borrowing records from whoever had a good collection, particularly from Steve Slumber the Oldies Professor. Our collection quickly grew to 2,000 "borrowed" oldies on cartridge, and a couple thousand more on disk. We rotated every one of those songs in our programming, and you can believe every oldie we got a request for, we had...and we played them!
4. 1989-1993: We launched Oldies 106.7 on July 4, 1989. It was the first full-time FM oldies station in N.O. It took the city by storm and routinely racked up #1's with 11's and 12's, kicking WWL and WNOE-FM. Trade mags from everywhere were calling us up to see what the hell we were doing. The manager, Harry Williams, was from out of town but trusted the judgment of the N.O. talent he had all around him. We had a good 3,000 titles, including a load of N.O. stuff, and they all got played. We would get mobbed by eager listeners when we would broadcast live all day from the Irish Channel on St. Patrick's Day. They would bombard us with requests...and we not only had, but played them all! Unfortunately the hemmorhoids at Beasley sold the station from under us to support KRTH's debts.
5. KOOL 95.7 (Ed Muniz Ownership): August 1993 - late 1997. Totally a N.O. operation. Our lineup was so trusted for their experience that we never even had a program director during those years. Library size: 3,000-4,000 titles including CDs and vinyl, and every popular song by a N.O. artist that you ever heard of. And we played them all. The result: a FM Oldies blowtorch that was watched and studied by dozens of stations around the country.
6. KOOL-95.7: late 1997-early 2000. Station bought by Sinclair Broadcasting. The consultant Frank Bell felt like "if something's not broke don't fix it". He let us all stay in charge of the station and the ratings were still consistantly Top 5. He didn't interfere with our extensive library.
7. The Demise: 2000-2006. Station bought by Entercom and they brought in the genius Andy Holt. His first action was to erase all but about 200 songs on the Dalet, plus got rid of our CDs and vinyl. In another endearing move to his close-kniit staff, he put a binder in the studio with the 200 or so titles now on the playlist, with a big note on the front cover saying "ZERO TOLERANCE ALLOWED ON PLAYLIST". For chrissakes, one of the first things he did was to remove "All These Things" by Art Neville and substituted the version by the Uniques instead, because "that was the version he remembered where he grew up!" The request line became a joke...we had to offer suggestions to callers from within the 200 songs. So there we were, suddenly being led by a control freak who didn't know crap about N.O. or its oldies tradition (and still hasn't a clue). We also had liner sheets and he made us read them verbatim, with no tolerance for ad libs or personality. Quite a sudden dousing of cold water on listeners after basically knowing what to expect from their oldies stations for many years.
The rest is history. The best oldies market in the country slid quickly and was floundering around a 2 or 3 at the end, when 90% of the oldies the long-time audience loved and grew up with were suddenly gone forever.
Thru the years the listeners got plenty of what they wanted to hear, played by real people in the studio that they considered friends. I know times change and things change. But this, in my opinion, is why N.O. will never support Scott Shannon's voice tracked station or any other sterile one like it playing the same old crap, including if Andy Holt ever brought KOOL back. If Entercom is ever so inclined in that direction they'd do better to get rid of Andy Holt and hire someone from here who knows what New Orleans wants to hear.
Just my opinion... Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all.
And no offense taken, bennetti. That's what forums are all about.
Bob - you're right. As much as I love Scott as a person and as someone who taught me a lot about radio, I don't think any sat format no matter how well done would work in New Orleans. And, I'm not saying True Oldies is well done.
And, while I have a distinct dislike for Ed Muniz and think he's a joke and an embarassment as a Mayor, I wish I would have spent more time during my New Orleans visits listening to Kool. Unfortunately, Oldies was not a format that I worked with, nor was it enough of a factor as a competitor.
And, while I have a distinct dislike for Ed Muniz and think he's a joke and an embarassment as a Mayor, I wish I would have spent more time during my New Orleans visits listening to Kool. Unfortunately, Oldies was not a format that I worked with, nor was it enough of a factor as a competitor.
Welcome back bennetti, and please wish your mom in FL a Merry Christmas from us.
Maybe I should clarify where I was coming from about Scott Shannon. Scott and I shared fairly parallel years in radio. From what I know about Scott, never having met him, he definitely has a good radio brain in his head, and the proof of that is his track record of success, especially in NYC. However, my feeling was that we had comparable air talent in New Orleans, but Scott got some good breaks and it worked out well for him. I should mention that we on WTIX had a midday jock in the early 70's named Marc Sommers who did follow the siren's call and had a career in NYC radio for well over 20 years.
WNOE had many equally good talents that could have conquered market #1. Jack Talley did it for many years up there. It just depends on the breaks one gets and the way the cards are meant to fall in one's lifetime.
That being said, Scott Shannon is indisputedly a great PD and legendary radio talent (as opposed to nobodys like Andy Holt who no one knows *now*, much less 20 years from now...or 6 months). Scott is where he worked to get to. He deserves all the accolades he receives, and you were fortunate to have had him as a mentor. But my opinion was that we had a lot of talent who went thru N.O. who could have done equally as well around the time Scott went to NYC, had it been meant to be for them too.
Now, what could really help WMTI with Scott's format would be to add live N.O. DJ's in morning and afternoon drive, to break up the "all Scott all the time" and give it some local credibility. That would put this station in a much better position to be seriously competitive, up to the signal limitations.
Otherwise, taking into account that New Orleans is the most parochial and tradition-loving city in the US (read: REALLY slow to change from the old ways), in spite of his best efforts (his True Oldies is tight and the playlist is good for short-term listening...I have to admit that, if you don't listen day after day for the repetition burnout to set in), it will never be a factor here.
It will take more than a recorded break from Jim Hanzo saying it's an oldies station. Jim is a great guy but is not identified with oldies. And the name Scott Shannon by itself will never buy a snowball here.
BW
Maybe I should clarify where I was coming from about Scott Shannon. Scott and I shared fairly parallel years in radio. From what I know about Scott, never having met him, he definitely has a good radio brain in his head, and the proof of that is his track record of success, especially in NYC. However, my feeling was that we had comparable air talent in New Orleans, but Scott got some good breaks and it worked out well for him. I should mention that we on WTIX had a midday jock in the early 70's named Marc Sommers who did follow the siren's call and had a career in NYC radio for well over 20 years.
WNOE had many equally good talents that could have conquered market #1. Jack Talley did it for many years up there. It just depends on the breaks one gets and the way the cards are meant to fall in one's lifetime.
That being said, Scott Shannon is indisputedly a great PD and legendary radio talent (as opposed to nobodys like Andy Holt who no one knows *now*, much less 20 years from now...or 6 months). Scott is where he worked to get to. He deserves all the accolades he receives, and you were fortunate to have had him as a mentor. But my opinion was that we had a lot of talent who went thru N.O. who could have done equally as well around the time Scott went to NYC, had it been meant to be for them too.
Now, what could really help WMTI with Scott's format would be to add live N.O. DJ's in morning and afternoon drive, to break up the "all Scott all the time" and give it some local credibility. That would put this station in a much better position to be seriously competitive, up to the signal limitations.
Otherwise, taking into account that New Orleans is the most parochial and tradition-loving city in the US (read: REALLY slow to change from the old ways), in spite of his best efforts (his True Oldies is tight and the playlist is good for short-term listening...I have to admit that, if you don't listen day after day for the repetition burnout to set in), it will never be a factor here.
It will take more than a recorded break from Jim Hanzo saying it's an oldies station. Jim is a great guy but is not identified with oldies. And the name Scott Shannon by itself will never buy a snowball here.
BW
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