106.7 In Stereo

[jimnmidtn]

Not sure iof this means anything but with the end of the year and stuff, it could be sign of a format change. I noticed 106.7 The Fan was broadcasting in stereo this afternoon. They'd been broadcasting in mono since right after they flipped to sports. Again. maybe they're just doing some transmitter work, and they accidentally put the stereo back on. I just thought it was weird

 

[Tibbs4]

Good observation! You may just be onto something.

 

[jetfli]

Not sure iof this means anything but with the end of the year and stuff, it could be sign of a format change. I noticed 106.7 The Fan was broadcasting in stereo this afternoon. They'd been broadcasting in mono since right after they flipped to sports. Again. maybe they're just doing some transmitter work, and they accidentally put the stereo back on. I just thought it was weird

If they change formats, you'll be able to hear the shout of joy all across Middle Tennessee with no transmitter needed. Should have made 106.7 the new home of Oldies.

HOWEVER... it's likely they're working on the transition of upgrading 106.7 to a class C3 and moving the COL to Millersburg. Haven't heard a progress report on that lately.

 

[Nock]

Just curious

Where is Millersburg?

I look on mapquest and get zip?

Nock

 

[jetfli]

Just curious

Where is Millersburg?

Ding Dang it!* I just hurriedly picked up someone else's info on that. I think it's actually supposed to be Millersville, which is geographically between Goodlettsville and White House, although it's not my intention to take business away from Mapquest.

*words that Bob & Tom should use instead of words they do use

Post-posting addendum -- I came back to modify this entry after digging into my notes abit, and yes, it is MillersVILLE. My apolgizes for the confusion.

 

[w9wi]

If they change formats, you'll be able to hear the shout of joy all across Middle Tennessee with no transmitter needed. Should have made 106.7 the new home of Oldies.

HOWEVER... it's likely they're working on the transition of upgrading 106.7 to a class C3 and moving the COL to Millersburg. Haven't heard a progress report on that lately.

I'm pretty sure any work being done on the C3 transition is only paperwork at this point. Best I can tell the application to implement the Millersville move hasn't been filed yet. They got the channel allotted, but they haven't filed for the specific power/tower they plan to use.

I don't know of any work happening on their transmitter (it's on our tower) but since I'm not the transmitter guy sometimes I don't hear about such things.

(I did notice they were in stereo, or at least the pilot was on)

 

[PaulO]

If they change formats, you'll be able to hear the shout of joy all across Middle Tennessee with no transmitter needed. Should have made 106.7 the new home of Oldies.

HOWEVER... it's likely they're working on the transition of upgrading 106.7 to a class C3 and moving the COL to Millersburg. Haven't heard a progress report on that lately.

I'm pretty sure any work being done on the C3 transition is only paperwork at this point. Best I can tell the application to implement the Millersville move hasn't been filed yet. They got the channel allotted, but they haven't filed for the specific power/tower they plan to use.

I don't know of any work happening on their transmitter (it's on our tower) but since I'm not the transmitter guy sometimes I don't hear about such things.

(I did notice they were in stereo, or at least the pilot was on)


They are broadcasting in stereo but nun of their local audio is in stereo. I am sure that their immaging for the fan wouldn't be in stereo.

I remember when they first flipped that some things were came through on one channel. So I guess the control room board isn't in stereo. If it were there should be some phase shift even if the files aren't in stereo.

Could this have anything to do with upgrading the transmiter for the HD channels?

 

[PaulO]

If they change formats, you'll be able to hear the shout of joy all across Middle Tennessee with no transmitter needed. Should have made 106.7 the new home of Oldies.

HOWEVER... it's likely they're working on the transition of upgrading 106.7 to a class C3 and moving the COL to Millersburg. Haven't heard a progress report on that lately.

I'm pretty sure any work being done on the C3 transition is only paperwork at this point. Best I can tell the application to implement the Millersville move hasn't been filed yet. They got the channel allotted, but they haven't filed for the specific power/tower they plan to use.

I don't know of any work happening on their transmitter (it's on our tower) but since I'm not the transmitter guy sometimes I don't hear about such things.

(I did notice they were in stereo, or at least the pilot was on)


They are broadcasting in stereo but nun of their local audio is in stereo. I am sure that their immaging for the fan wouldn't be in stereo.

I remember when they first flipped that some things were came through on one channel. So I guess the control room board isn't in stereo. If it were there should be some phase shift even if the files aren't in stereo.

Could this have anything to do with upgrading the transmiter for the HD channels?



I need to update my last post. After the Tennessee game today I turned to the fan and noticed that their comercials are now in stereo. Almost everything is in stereo. The dave Ramsey spots have phase shift. However everything meaning the immaging and ESPN for the fan is dead center.

If they were just working on the transmiter I would think that nothing but the transmiter it self would be in stereo. So can we say that a format change may be imminat?

 

[Journeyman]

So can we say that a format change may be imminat?

Or can we say that all spots are routinely dubbed in stereo on all stations since they're in the same computer category.. I bet we could safely say that

 

[Nashsound]

Their HD is on.

 

[w9wi]

Their HD is on.

Man, it almost sounds like they're running the same power on their analog as they are on their HD -- I can't get a clean (analog) signal up here in Pleasant View, even with a "120-mile" TV antenna at 15 feet. A ten-watt translator up in Hopkinsville is coming in better. (with the antenna pointed at Nashville!) My set can't even find the digital signal.

That doesn't happen with the other IBOC stations, so it's certainly not inherent in the digital mode. (admittedly WNFN is the lowest-powered HD station in town right now) My guess is they're having combiner difficulties. Assuming they *need* a combiner, that transmitter is pretty new & might have been IBOC-ready.

 

[gHz]

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The HD carrier is regulated at 20Db below the analog carrier. The math makes that 10% of the analog watts. As far as the TV antenna, make sure it does not have an FM blocking element. Some of them do and it needs to be broken off at a scribed point to open up the TV antenna to efficient use on the FM band.

The stereo pilot is off now. The change to a digital exciter with an onboard stereo generator as opposed to an outboard stereo generator back at the studio site was the likely cause.

Their HD is on.

Man, it almost sounds like they're running the same power on their analog as they are on their HD -- I can't get a clean (analog) signal up here in Pleasant View, even with a "120-mile" TV antenna at 15 feet. A ten-watt translator up in Hopkinsville is coming in better. (with the antenna pointed at Nashville!) My set can't even find the digital signal.

That doesn't happen with the other IBOC stations, so it's certainly not inherent in the digital mode. (admittedly WNFN is the lowest-powered HD station in town right now) My guess is they're having combiner difficulties. Assuming they *need* a combiner, that transmitter is pretty new & might have been IBOC-ready.

 

[Nashsound]

Actually the transmitted HD carrier is 1% of the analog carrier ( 20dB down). In a basic High level combined system, you typically run the HD transmitter at 10% of the licensed Analog power TPO and the Analog transmitter at 111% of the licensed Analog TPO. In the 10db combiner, you throw away 90% of the HD power and 11% of the analog power into a reject load. Heats the room up real nice. This is the method used at WRVW. Now if you are running a Low level combined system, the exciter sends both analog and digintal carriers ( FM+HD) to a linearized power amp. This is the method used by WSIX, WUBT and WKDF, that I know of. The digital TPO is set at 1% of the analog TPO, so for example, for WSIX, the analog TPO is 21.5kW, so the Digital TPO is 215 watts, more or less. Sorry if I got too technical, but this has been my life for the last 2 years plus.

 

[Journeyman]

Actually the transmitted HD carrier is 1% of the analog carrier ( 20dB down). In a basic High level combined system, you typically run the HD transmitter at 10% of the licensed Analog power TPO and the Analog transmitter at 111% of the licensed Analog TPO. In the 10db combiner, you throw away 90% of the HD power and 11% of the analog power into a reject load. Heats the room up real nice. This is the method used at WRVW. Now if you are running a Low level combined system, the exciter sends both analog and digintal carriers ( FM+HD) to a linearized power amp. This is the method used by WSIX, WUBT and WKDF, that I know of. The digital TPO is set at 1% of the analog TPO, so for example, for WSIX, the analog TPO is 21.5kW, so the Digital TPO is 215 watts, more or less. Sorry if I got too technical, but this has been my life for the last 2 years plus.

That has GOT to be true because I don't understand a WORD of it!

 

[Nashsound]

yep..Baffle 'em with BS.