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106.9 FM

A&G, 106.9 on Monday, and Wild Speculation

> However don't discredit Mr. Kohl, he knows his stuff and I'm
> sure he's aware of all the in stipulations and/or outs on
> the A&G contract.

No kidding, since he was intimately involved in creating it. He could probably recite its terms in his sleep.

Some thoughts:

* It's probably safe to bet that KK wants A&G for 106.9, whenever he can manage to get them. He loves the show, and the guys have kicked butt for him at KSTE. A&G are now top-5 in morning drive for 650, sometimes even higher. A&G are his "discovery" (he lured them from 96.9 in Sac) and he'd love to bring them over. And unlike on KNEW/910, they'd be on FM, and not shared with Sacramento. (Which, of course, puts a giant hole in 650's morning drive, if he's successful.)

* I would not at all be surprised if Family vacates 106.9 on Monday. But that doesn't mean Infinity launches the talk format Monday on that frequency. They may program SOMETHING on it - simulcast an existing Infinity FM station, stunt or whatever, but it doesn't have to launch Monday. Look for whatever's in morning drive either Monday or after the full flip to be temporary, depending on the disposition of the first item. And please, don't make this like those speculating about WJFK/Washington's evening slot ("This show is on now, this must be the permanent replacement for Ron & Fez!" "No, that replacement was fired, now here's their replacement!", etc., lather, rinse and repeat).

* If some of these folks in this thread here told me that the sun would rise tomorrow, I'd double check. But just so you know...I don't claim to be involved in buying advertising time on shows that may or may not be coming to 106.9. ;)

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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Mr. Kohl's New Adventure

> I couldn't agree more. I think Ken will do just fine. He's
> passionate about radio...No one is perfect and he is far
> from that, but he knows what he's doing...

It will be very interesting to see what he does with a full-market FM signal in a market the size of SF, and with a lineup presumably with a lot of local talent.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: Rumor Mill Too Wild for Moderator KM Richards

> Moderator, Moderator, Moderator! Seems like you take this
> gig too seriously! This is the rumor board isn't it?

1. Yes, I take this gig seriously, because the owners of Radio-Info expect me to.

2. No, this is not the "unfounded rumor and wild predictions" board.

3. As has been noted elsewhere in the thread, you don't have a great track record on your "predictions" and therefore are pretty much unqualified to question me on my comments.

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> > Does Family keep their grandfathering rights on those 59
> > LP's?
>
> I'm pretty sure all the Family translators are wholly-owned
> by them, and will be legally pointed at KEDR/88.1 in
> Sacramento (and still fed by satellite) at some point soon.

IIRC, translators are specifically licensed to rebroadcast a specific station, designated on the original application and therefore a part of the license.

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> Anybody know the new calls for this talk station? Who is
> going to be on it? Hello Mr. Kidd got any ideas? I bet you
> know more than you will be willing to
> tell us!
>

This is going to be a hip hop station, and the DogHouse will be on in the mornings.
 
FM translator rules!

> > > Does Family keep their grandfathering rights on those 59
>
> > > LP's?
> >
> > I'm pretty sure all the Family translators are
> wholly-owned
> > by them, and will be legally pointed at KEDR/88.1 in
> > Sacramento (and still fed by satellite) at some point
> soon.
>
> IIRC, translators are specifically licensed to rebroadcast a
> specific station, designated on the original application and
> therefore a part of the license.
>
> I don't recall if FM translators can have their licenses
> modified to designate a different originating station.
>
Chris Kidd replies;

An FM translator is an independent license. The primary station may be changed at any time by the FM translator licensee. The Commission must be notified by the licensee of the FM translator licensee. The following conditions also apply:

In the case of Family Radio their primary license is non-commerical. They may change and rebroadcast a different non-commerical station and simply notify the Commission by letter.

Any FM translator from 92.1 to 107.9 may change from non-commerical to commerical and to non-commerical at any time. However different rules apply. A non-commerical FM translator is allowed to extended the coverage of its primary station, own the translators or compensate them at market rates.

A commerical translator owned or compensated by the primary station must contain its 60 dbu contour within the stations protected contour.

A commerical translator which is outside the protected countour of the primary station must be owned by a different company. Furthermore there are restrictions on compensation which is limited to non-discrectionary payemnts such as rent and maintence.

In all cases an FM translator not owned by the primary station must certify that it has written authorization to re-broadcast said station. This usually comes up when the perimt is issued and when the licensed is transferd.

In rural Nevada a Tonapah station does own FM translators outside its protected contour. This is permitted because the translators serve white areas that are without other service.

Infinity Broadcasting would be prohibited from purchasing any of the FM translators with KEAR-FM except if said FM translators were fill-in translators that coverage shadowed areas which every San Francisco station has.

Most of the current FM translator rules were re-written in 1991. Many are now outdated (almost 15 years) and you can expect the Commission to revamp them in 2006. Remember back in 1991 no one ever felt threated by satelite radio. So much has changed.

Speaking of FM translators in the Bay Area, many of the San Francisco stations have boosters in Concord/Walnut Creek. Outside of that area who can cite what San Francisco stations are shadowed and the specific areas where an FM translator could fill in their coverage.

I will look forward to hearing your stories of picket fencing and other FM reception problems.

CK
 
> This is going to be a hip hop station, and the DogHouse will
> be on in the mornings.

You've been listening to Gerry too much.<P ID="signature">______________


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> > This is going to be a hip hop station, and the DogHouse
> will
> > be on in the mornings.
>
> You've been listening to Gerry too much.
>
I head that KGO was letting Ronn Bar get to 30 years before giving him the boot and replacing him with the Doghouse. :)
 
Re: A&G, 106.9 on Monday, and Wild Speculation

I honestly don't think A&G will ever leave Sacramento. I don't think they care for the extra work that comes with doing a show in the number 4 market. That's not a shot at them...Just that coming to the Bay Area now is a full on commitment...financially and personally. They're making big bucks in Sacramento w/o all the b.s...If they wanted to be in the Bay Area, they would've been down here by now...They're dragging their feet and have been for the last year...



> > However don't discredit Mr. Kohl, he knows his stuff and
> I'm
> > sure he's aware of all the in stipulations and/or outs on
> > the A&G contract.
>
> No kidding, since he was intimately involved in creating it.
> He could probably recite its terms in his sleep.
>
> Some thoughts:
>
> * It's probably safe to bet that KK wants A&G for 106.9,
> whenever he can manage to get them. He loves the show, and
> the guys have kicked butt for him at KSTE. A&G are now
> top-5 in morning drive for 650, sometimes even higher. A&G
> are his "discovery" (he lured them from 96.9 in Sac) and
> he'd love to bring them over. And unlike on KNEW/910,
> they'd be on FM, and not shared with Sacramento. (Which, of
> course, puts a giant hole in 650's morning drive, if he's
> successful.)
>
> * I would not at all be surprised if Family vacates 106.9 on
> Monday. But that doesn't mean Infinity launches the talk
> format Monday on that frequency. They may program SOMETHING
> on it - simulcast an existing Infinity FM station, stunt or
> whatever, but it doesn't have to launch Monday. Look for
> whatever's in morning drive either Monday or after the full
> flip to be temporary, depending on the disposition of the
> first item. And please, don't make this like those
> speculating about WJFK/Washington's evening slot ("This show
> is on now, this must be the permanent replacement for Ron &
> Fez!" "No, that replacement was fired, now here's their
> replacement!", etc., lather, rinse and repeat).
>
> * If some of these folks in this thread here told me that
> the sun would rise tomorrow, I'd double check. But just so
> you know...I don't claim to be involved in buying
> advertising time on shows that may or may not be coming to
> 106.9. ;)
>
> -OA
>
 
Re: FM translator rules!

> Infinity Broadcasting would be prohibited from purchasing
> any of the FM translators with KEAR-FM except if said FM
> translators were fill-in translators that coverage shadowed
> areas which every San Francisco station has.

And needless to say, the far flung FM translator network run by Family Stations is not included in the KEAR deal, and Infinity has no need or want for any of them. Even the translators anywhere near SF, as they'd serve no use for Infinity.

You explained it pretty well, Chris. As far as I know, the change of primary station for Family's KEAR translators is a pretty simple process, and involves not much more than the notification. Family owns the translators, as far as I know, and also owns the new nominal primary, KEDR/88.1 Sacramento.

I say nominal, of course, because Family feeds all these stations via a satellite feed, which is very much allowed for NCEs. So in practice, nothing changes except a pointer in the FCC database.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: A&G, 106.9 on Monday, and Wild Speculation

> I honestly don't think A&G will ever leave Sacramento. I
> don't think they care for the extra work that comes with
> doing a show in the number 4 market. That's not a shot at
> them...Just that coming to the Bay Area now is a full on
> commitment...financially and personally. They're making big
> bucks in Sacramento w/o all the b.s...If they wanted to be
> in the Bay Area, they would've been down here by
> now...They're dragging their feet and have been for the last
> year...

I don't doubt any of the above.

I do believe that KK will try everything but wild horses to bring them down to 106.9, when he's legally able to do so.

I also know that their kind of show is a target for him, when it comes to 106.9. If he can't lure them to SF, he will bring in shows like theirs, or try to create shows like theirs. Any FM morning drive teams in SF (or elsewhere in NorCal) that could easily translate to talk?

Ken is very, very attached to his "discoveries". (There are some who would say he'd claim credit for the discovery of fire, but it's not quite that bad. :D) He can take very legitimate credit for A&G. He plucked them off a third-rate FM morning show - called, believe it or not, "Joe and Jack Out of the Sack" (!) - and the move to KSTE turned them into talk radio stars in that market. Last I'd heard, A&G were a consistent top 5 show there, and even give sister KFBK a run for its money in AM drive.

Now, I'm not saying that the success would immediately translate to SF. They're two different markets in more than just market size. But I do know KK will try. Anyone who's had any experience with him knows that he will try.

And as someone else noted, don't point to their numbers on anemic, barely promoted KNEW/910 as a simulcast with Sacramento. If they win or lose if they come to 106.9, it'll be a whole different ballgame.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
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