WTWK, formerly Air America for the Champlain Valley, is stunting this weekend. The new format is to be unveiled on Monday. Could oldies via satellite be making a return to the airwaves ever since Kool went classic hits?
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A big loss for prog talk given the politics of the area...what kind of stunt?
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NO DAG
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You know "Dead Air America" is perhaps in trouble when it cannot make in the People's Republic of Burlington.
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Looks like WTWK is going to womens' talk as "Eve 1070" accoridng to their website.
Sounds like what WNSH in Beverly MA has---Radio Ritas, Rolanda...
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Mr. DUBbonet
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If I had been them I would have gone to a 50's-60's Oldies format since that is now not heard in the area. I think the Eve format is another lost cause for the daytime AM.
the problem i see is simply the fact that their signal gets overpowered at night. I live across the lake and i liked the progressive talk format. i wont listen to this chic station. once the sun goes down i here the CBC, even in plattsburgh. the womens talk will not help them, as for the "Dead Air America" its far from dead, they failed in burlington because WTWK only comes in for 8-12 hours a day in most the region, i am very unhappy about the decision they made and now cant here good talk in my car, only sleezballs like glen beck, rush and sean hannity. no more honest talk in plattsburgh/burlington
Well they shut off at sunset which explains the CBC.
Prog. talk may work but the TalkingRadio blog notes that in the past year, 2 stations added the format.
20 have subtracted it. In many cases it was placed on weaker signals with "computer in a closet"
and no local hosts. It would have been better to get liberal hosts on bigger stations, your WVMTs
and Zones, though it was a bit of an uphill battle to get going. And had it not been for Clear Channel
placing Air America on some of its stations, it may not have even reached the peak of 85 (or so)
stations it had.
Bottom line managers felt that sports (in many cases) would be a better sell. This is why 1390 switched
to ESPN...
In Boston, they couldn't really flip to sports because it was already on three other stations so they switched
AAR Boston to "Rumba" Spanish. There was a need because Boston had no fulltime Spanish outlet.
Clear Channel didn't put any local hosts on (exc. for one, on Sunday afternoons) and didn't promote it
as well as it should have been.
Prog. talk can still succeed, maybe with the Jones network shows or AAR with the new Green
ownership. It has been an uphill battle because the shows you say you don't like--Rush (Premiere),
Beck (ditto), and Hannity (ABC) _were_ liked by enough people to become popular and they sold
product. Thus, stations kept them and other conservative talkers on. If the likes of Big Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, and Steph Miller put out a good
product (some feel they do), were given a chance to be on a "big" station, etc., then who knows.
"Rush wasn't built in a day" either...hey, give it time. In the meantime I wonder if there's an effort
to bring prog talk back to Burl/Platt somehow. there are similar efforts in New Haven, Boston, etc.
(nonstopradio.com)
Prog. talk may work but the TalkingRadio blog notes that in the past year, 2 stations added the format.
20 have subtracted it. In many cases it was placed on weaker signals with "computer in a closet"
and no local hosts. It would have been better to get liberal hosts on bigger stations, your WVMTs
and Zones, though it was a bit of an uphill battle to get going. And had it not been for Clear Channel
placing Air America on some of its stations, it may not have even reached the peak of 85 (or so)
stations it had.
Bottom line managers felt that sports (in many cases) would be a better sell. This is why 1390 switched
to ESPN...
In Boston, they couldn't really flip to sports because it was already on three other stations so they switched
AAR Boston to "Rumba" Spanish. There was a need because Boston had no fulltime Spanish outlet.
Clear Channel didn't put any local hosts on (exc. for one, on Sunday afternoons) and didn't promote it
as well as it should have been.
Prog. talk can still succeed, maybe with the Jones network shows or AAR with the new Green
ownership. It has been an uphill battle because the shows you say you don't like--Rush (Premiere),
Beck (ditto), and Hannity (ABC) _were_ liked by enough people to become popular and they sold
product. Thus, stations kept them and other conservative talkers on. If the likes of Big Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, and Steph Miller put out a good
product (some feel they do), were given a chance to be on a "big" station, etc., then who knows.
"Rush wasn't built in a day" either...hey, give it time. In the meantime I wonder if there's an effort
to bring prog talk back to Burl/Platt somehow. there are similar efforts in New Haven, Boston, etc.
(nonstopradio.com)
I heard CBA 1070 in Moncton NB is moving to FM later this year...will there be an effort for the various 1070s
in the US to be able to broadcast at night if they're daytimers?
in the US to be able to broadcast at night if they're daytimers?
MassMusicMan
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raccoonradio said:
If Goldman ever puts a liberal on WVMT, I'll buy you a case of beer. We didn't air barter spots for Trojan for years on the X because of his beliefs.
Well I'd rather have prog talk get on because a station feels it would do well rather than because the FCC
would mandate it (with return of Fairness Doctrine). Basically, libtalkers, if your product is good people will
put it on the air and it'll get results, though it certainly has been a rocky year for libtalk...but yes,
conservative talk radio has proven to be a success (and most likely fans of libtalk in the Champlain Valley
would probably be better off getting a satellite radio or picking it up from distant stations like
Buffalo's 1520. Not many options out there! though isn't there a CP for a 670 in Essex Jct.? maybe there?)
would mandate it (with return of Fairness Doctrine). Basically, libtalkers, if your product is good people will
put it on the air and it'll get results, though it certainly has been a rocky year for libtalk...but yes,
conservative talk radio has proven to be a success (and most likely fans of libtalk in the Champlain Valley
would probably be better off getting a satellite radio or picking it up from distant stations like
Buffalo's 1520. Not many options out there! though isn't there a CP for a 670 in Essex Jct.? maybe there?)
MassMusicMan
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I agree completely, Raccoon. Prog talk seems like such an obvious format choice (or at the very least, a flavor) for Burlington. I like your sentiment of "if your product is good, people will put it on the air...", but the reality is that Goldman won't put anything on 620 that doesn't meet his agenda.
Yup. Am kind of mentioning it in the national sense, though; prog talk fans in places like Boston or New Haven
(format went away) who are rallying to get it back might eventually find a smaller station to put it on but in
all honesty they may be better off trying to get 1 or 2 pretty-good libtalk shows and rallying the bigger
conservative talk stations to take them. Not an easy task either, given the track record so far (though in some
cities libtalk is doing OK). But yeah, doubtful 620 would do so.
>>I like your sentiment of "if your product is good, people will put it on the air..."
am mostly conservative, partly moderate, but I feel if libtalk can put out a good product and it's a success than so be it. And heck I've enjoyed some libtalkers like Alan Colmes or Steph Miller..at least for awhile
Entertain me. Some on the left actually enjoy listening to Rush or Hannity--even if they disagree with just about everything the host says, they find it entertaining.
(format went away) who are rallying to get it back might eventually find a smaller station to put it on but in
all honesty they may be better off trying to get 1 or 2 pretty-good libtalk shows and rallying the bigger
conservative talk stations to take them. Not an easy task either, given the track record so far (though in some
cities libtalk is doing OK). But yeah, doubtful 620 would do so.
>>I like your sentiment of "if your product is good, people will put it on the air..."
am mostly conservative, partly moderate, but I feel if libtalk can put out a good product and it's a success than so be it. And heck I've enjoyed some libtalkers like Alan Colmes or Steph Miller..at least for awhile
Entertain me. Some on the left actually enjoy listening to Rush or Hannity--even if they disagree with just about everything the host says, they find it entertaining.
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NO DAG
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WTWK 1070 has received more attention since it 86'ed "Dead Air America" more than anytime than it carried "Dead Air America". The only place where I see "DDA" thriving is in Portland Oregon which is quite similar in character to Burlington, except much larger.
More attention on this board and similar online places, I'd think. Not sure if the format change was
mentioned in BurlFreePress, 7Days, etc...
mentioned in BurlFreePress, 7Days, etc...
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Ray D. Oh
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It was only known because they did a rather large ad for the new "Eve"...but then in typical Northeast fashion....never ran another one. They will change formats agains in 7-10 months.
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broadcastbabe
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Listened to "Eve" for about 5 minutes the other day. Three chicks talked about how big their butts were, and whether or not it was good or bad (fashion wise) to have big or little butts. Do I care about this???? Does ANYONE?
Don't think I'll be tuning in again.
Don't think I'll be tuning in again.
Ray D. Oh said:
I saw full page ads again this week. Two weeks in a row...breaking out the bucks.
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