Does anyone know if WCSZ is operating non-d daytime at 50kw? If so, for how long?
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I have always been interested in WHYZ. There isn't nearly the amount of history/info/discussion around about them as there is for WQOK, WFBC-A, or WESC.freqdev said:
I find it interesting that the current owners of 1070 are trying to program Spanish when we already have it on 103.9 in a market that doesn't have that large of a Spanish-speaking population. The signal for the FM translator at 94.9 is quite good (on par with the Cox signals on the same tower), and definitely better than 1070 at night.
Well, I have been in this area all my life and know very little about 1070 but I will put in my 2-cents worth: I remember back in the day as WHYZ they had a display ad in the yellow pages stating that they were South Carolina's only 50kW station.
Some of you old timers may remember when the station burned to the ground somewhere around 1970, give or take a few years. The only thing left standing was the 3 towers. The mobile home was moved in for studio/offices and a transmitter shack was added on to it. They have been in it ever since. I had always heard rumors that the burning of the station was racially motivated.
FWIW this station is being heard VERY widely at night. They were blasting into Milwaukee last week (if I'd had a notepad I'd have been able to write down every advertiser) and have been reported as far west as Oklahoma.
Sometimes strange things happen on the AM band but it seems unlikely these guys are using their authorized facilities at night.
Sometimes strange things happen on the AM band but it seems unlikely these guys are using their authorized facilities at night.
more kilowatts said:
Don't know if 1070 ever made money but they were the first all urban format in the area. In those days, it was a daytimer but it had a huge following. The daytime signal was pretty weak west of Greenville to protect 1070 WFLI in Chattanooga. The 50KW wasn't a full 50KW toward Spartanburg either. It's major lobe was south toward Greenwood. Imagine a kidney bean with the eye of the bean toward the west and that's pretty much what the pattern looked like.
Wally Mullinax told me that was a determining factor in WMTY going urban when it was 1090 AM only. In 1979 WCRS ended its simulcast on 96.7 first doing rock as WSCZ then soon went country. WMTY had been doing country so they went urban as 1070 pulled good numbers in Greenwood.
AM signal strength through the mountains between Greenville and Chattanooga is some of the worst in the country which is how they got 50KW nondirectional daytime. I was always surprised someone hadn't already measured out the signal to avoid the DA.
There was a FCC breakdown of the Class B Clear Channel AM stations in the early to mid 1960s which opened up 1070 on the eastern sea board. It's really crowded at night in the east to protect LA. 1130 was opened up as well as 680. The Greenville AM added nighttime in the early to mid 1980s which is why they changed city of license. They couldn't place an interference free nighttime signal across all of Greenville so they took the new city of license in order to get nighttime. By then, FM had taken over the audience and 1070 was already in rapid decline.
The Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson market is so spread out none of the AMs could cover it well so the AMs which did well focused on their individual cities til FM took over...WSPA 950 was big in the Spartanburg area...1330 WFBC had Greenville and 1230 WAIM and 1280 WANS fought over Anderson. 660 in Greenville came closest to a regional station doing the three R-s...race religion rural. Wally Mullinax used to say if you did a format to reach the "classes" there better be enough class to make a profit. The alternative was o do a format which apealed to the masses.
WFBC was the prestiae station in Greenville. The motivation to put WCRS on the air in Greenwood in 1941 related to WFBC. A wealthy lawyer there liked to listen to WFBC but the signal was weak so he built his own station, hird WFBC's program director, Dan Crosland, to be his manager and copied the WFBC format even used the same NBC network. WCRS was the first small town station in South Carolina. Featherstone owned it from day 1 and his estate operated it 10 years following his death. The station had $300,000 in savings from profits when he died which would be more than $1 million in today's money.
Amazing that 1070 gets into Milwaukee and Oklahoma at night. You can barely pick it up in most parts of metro Greenville. When they were 50K directional, you could pull them in throughout Florida before sunset. I believe the non directional signal is stronger in Columbia than the directional one.
I would love to hear some old air checks of 1070 WHYZ from the top 40 days of the early 70s. What a cool station. I bet Joe Johnson has some stashed away somewhere.
I would love to hear some old air checks of 1070 WHYZ from the top 40 days of the early 70s. What a cool station. I bet Joe Johnson has some stashed away somewhere.
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Scooter Lesley
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1070 WHYZ-AM was the very reason that I entered the business. In the late 60's-to-1972 they were a smoke blowin', cash cow, Top 40, license to print money! The Air Talent was extrodinary: Charlie Burkett, G.Steven Green, Larry Mills, and
"Kee-mo-sabi" Joe Johnson. WQOK was also good during that period: Kirby Stevens, Steve Chris, Little Davey Dee(Danheizer). However, WQOK always ran 2nd to the all-powerful "Whiz"!(WHYZ). Sadly, in late '71, at their $$$$$$-peak, the owner sold-out to Urban ownership, and thus the format went Urban, sometime in '72. I can't blame the owner because he wouldn't never let it go, unless the offer was a $tupid amount of money. Like someone buying your weedeater for $1250! They went Urban, and WQOK had nothing left in their way,...clear sailing, and tell the bank that they're gonna need another vault.
"Kee-mo-sabi" Joe Johnson. WQOK was also good during that period: Kirby Stevens, Steve Chris, Little Davey Dee(Danheizer). However, WQOK always ran 2nd to the all-powerful "Whiz"!(WHYZ). Sadly, in late '71, at their $$$$$$-peak, the owner sold-out to Urban ownership, and thus the format went Urban, sometime in '72. I can't blame the owner because he wouldn't never let it go, unless the offer was a $tupid amount of money. Like someone buying your weedeater for $1250! They went Urban, and WQOK had nothing left in their way,...clear sailing, and tell the bank that they're gonna need another vault.
If I remember correctly, WHYZ was urban from 1966 through around '71, then switched to top 40. That lasted until around '74 when they switched back to urban. But I'm relying on memory, so I could be off a bit.
On another topic, speaking of that time frame, does anyone remember WFBC FM dropping the "Hit Parade" format in 1972 and going progressive rock (as it was then called). That lasted about 3 or 4 weeks, then they switched back to "Hit Parade". It was too good to last.
On another topic, speaking of that time frame, does anyone remember WFBC FM dropping the "Hit Parade" format in 1972 and going progressive rock (as it was then called). That lasted about 3 or 4 weeks, then they switched back to "Hit Parade". It was too good to last.
Wasn't 1070's Urban format eventually killed off by 103.9 (and later 103.3/103.9)'s Urban format in the late 80s?
Cool to read the details on 1070. The only fact that seems widely known is the fire that broke out in the station building, and the mobile home that replaced it. From the looks of that site in recent times, could they still be using the same one?
Sadly, 1070 may be worth more now to use to feed the 94.9 translator signal. As I said, it gets out quite well. I found that they have a website: http://www.lajefa949.com/
Don't see how Greenville can support two decent signaled Spanish stations when markets like Charlotte and Atlanta, which are much bigger, can't.
Cool to read the details on 1070. The only fact that seems widely known is the fire that broke out in the station building, and the mobile home that replaced it. From the looks of that site in recent times, could they still be using the same one?
Sadly, 1070 may be worth more now to use to feed the 94.9 translator signal. As I said, it gets out quite well. I found that they have a website: http://www.lajefa949.com/
Don't see how Greenville can support two decent signaled Spanish stations when markets like Charlotte and Atlanta, which are much bigger, can't.
Its called forgetting to switch to night power. Am I right?coolone said:
Any details on who owns this stick now? Who is overseeing it here, is it an LMA? Some company in FL owns it but I can't find anything online.
I found this on the FCC website from 11/15, which is interesting - https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...xt=25&appn=101522567&formid=911&fac_num=25235
Sounds like they are wanting to go down to 2kw/day and 350w at night temporarily, as the electrical parts have been destroyed by vandals. Could that be why they can't switch the power?
I found this on the FCC website from 11/15, which is interesting - https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...xt=25&appn=101522567&formid=911&fac_num=25235
Sounds like they are wanting to go down to 2kw/day and 350w at night temporarily, as the electrical parts have been destroyed by vandals. Could that be why they can't switch the power?
1070 Greenville Quick Inquiry
Hi, to all! I miss that kind of radio from back in the day! Truly enjoyable throughout my living in Greenville from NYC! By any chance, does anyone know about access to WHYZ-AM radio station logo or sign? I've repeatedly searched for years, but to no avail! Please let me know if there is anyone who may have at least a picture of the sign, as I am extremely in need of one!
Hi, to all! I miss that kind of radio from back in the day! Truly enjoyable throughout my living in Greenville from NYC! By any chance, does anyone know about access to WHYZ-AM radio station logo or sign? I've repeatedly searched for years, but to no avail! Please let me know if there is anyone who may have at least a picture of the sign, as I am extremely in need of one!
The Beat
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WCSZ is 2,000 watts max right now under FCC Special temporary authority.
From the app:
THE LICENSEE OF WCSZ HAS RECENTLY ACQUIRED A USED 50 KW TRANSMITTER. AT THE PRESENT TIME, WCSZ IS SEEKING TO HAVE IT RETUNED FROM ITS PRESENT FREQUENCY TO 1070 KHZ. AFTER RETUNING, IT WILL BE DELIVERED TO WCSZ'S TRANSMITTER SITE NEAR GREENVILLE, SC FOR INSTALLATION. AN FCC FORM 302-AM APPLICATION FOR DIRECT MEASUREMENT WILL BE FILED SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
THEREFORE, THE PUBLIC INTEREST, CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY WOULD BE WELL SERVED BY A GRANT OF AN STA EXTENSION FOR 180 DAYS, TO PERMIT THE LICENSEE OF WCSZ(AM) TO RESTORE THE STATION TO FULL 50 KW DAYTIME POWER.
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ORIGINAL STA REQUEST:
WCSZ HAS ENCOUNTERED TWO PROBLEMS WHICH REQUIRE IT TO SEEK A SPECIAL TEMPORARY AUTHORIZATION (STA).
FIRST, THE STATION'S DAYTIME 50 KW TRANSMITTER HAS MALFUNCTIONED, REQUIRING THE STATION TO USE ITS NIGHTTIME TRANSMITTER FOR REDUCED POWER DAYTIME OPERATION.
SECOND, THE STATION'S DAYTIME NON-DIRECTIONAL TOWER, TOWER #2 OF ITS 3 TOWER ARRAY, IS STRUCTURALLY UNSTABLE DUE TO A GUY WIRE WHICH HAS FAILED. THE LICENSEE NEEDS TO DISMANTLE TOWER #2 AND RE-ERECT IT. THEREFORE, THE LICENSEE INVOKES SECTION 73.1680 OF THE FCC'S RULES TO OPERATE WITH AN EMERGENCY ANTENNA, WHICH IS TOWER #1 OF THE 3 TOWER ARRAY.
AS A RESULT, WCSZ SEEKS AN STA TO OPERATE WITH REDUCED POWER OF A MAXIMUM 2.0 KW DURING DAYTIME HOURS, WHICH IS WELL LESS THAN THE 12.5 KW (25% OF 50 KW) THAT IT COULD ASK FOR UNDER THE FCC'S RULES. FURTHER, WCSZ SEEKS AN STA TO OPERATE DURING NIGHTTIME HOURS WITH A POWER OF 375 WATTS (0.375 KW), 25% OF ITS LICENSED NIGHTTIME POWER OF 1.5 KW. WCSZ ALSO SEEKS AN STA TO OPERATE NON-DIRECTIONALLY BOTH DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME WITH ITS TOWER #1 (ASR 1055338) SERVING AS AN EMERGENCY NON-DIRECTIONAL ANTENNA.
THE PUBLIC INTEREST, CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY WOULD BE WELL SERVED BY A GRANT OF THIS STA, WHICH WILL ALLOW WCSZ TO REMAIN ON THE AIR.
From the app:
THE LICENSEE OF WCSZ HAS RECENTLY ACQUIRED A USED 50 KW TRANSMITTER. AT THE PRESENT TIME, WCSZ IS SEEKING TO HAVE IT RETUNED FROM ITS PRESENT FREQUENCY TO 1070 KHZ. AFTER RETUNING, IT WILL BE DELIVERED TO WCSZ'S TRANSMITTER SITE NEAR GREENVILLE, SC FOR INSTALLATION. AN FCC FORM 302-AM APPLICATION FOR DIRECT MEASUREMENT WILL BE FILED SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
THEREFORE, THE PUBLIC INTEREST, CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY WOULD BE WELL SERVED BY A GRANT OF AN STA EXTENSION FOR 180 DAYS, TO PERMIT THE LICENSEE OF WCSZ(AM) TO RESTORE THE STATION TO FULL 50 KW DAYTIME POWER.
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ORIGINAL STA REQUEST:
WCSZ HAS ENCOUNTERED TWO PROBLEMS WHICH REQUIRE IT TO SEEK A SPECIAL TEMPORARY AUTHORIZATION (STA).
FIRST, THE STATION'S DAYTIME 50 KW TRANSMITTER HAS MALFUNCTIONED, REQUIRING THE STATION TO USE ITS NIGHTTIME TRANSMITTER FOR REDUCED POWER DAYTIME OPERATION.
SECOND, THE STATION'S DAYTIME NON-DIRECTIONAL TOWER, TOWER #2 OF ITS 3 TOWER ARRAY, IS STRUCTURALLY UNSTABLE DUE TO A GUY WIRE WHICH HAS FAILED. THE LICENSEE NEEDS TO DISMANTLE TOWER #2 AND RE-ERECT IT. THEREFORE, THE LICENSEE INVOKES SECTION 73.1680 OF THE FCC'S RULES TO OPERATE WITH AN EMERGENCY ANTENNA, WHICH IS TOWER #1 OF THE 3 TOWER ARRAY.
AS A RESULT, WCSZ SEEKS AN STA TO OPERATE WITH REDUCED POWER OF A MAXIMUM 2.0 KW DURING DAYTIME HOURS, WHICH IS WELL LESS THAN THE 12.5 KW (25% OF 50 KW) THAT IT COULD ASK FOR UNDER THE FCC'S RULES. FURTHER, WCSZ SEEKS AN STA TO OPERATE DURING NIGHTTIME HOURS WITH A POWER OF 375 WATTS (0.375 KW), 25% OF ITS LICENSED NIGHTTIME POWER OF 1.5 KW. WCSZ ALSO SEEKS AN STA TO OPERATE NON-DIRECTIONALLY BOTH DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME WITH ITS TOWER #1 (ASR 1055338) SERVING AS AN EMERGENCY NON-DIRECTIONAL ANTENNA.
THE PUBLIC INTEREST, CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY WOULD BE WELL SERVED BY A GRANT OF THIS STA, WHICH WILL ALLOW WCSZ TO REMAIN ON THE AIR.
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