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1190 am and 1160am

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theradioguy2004

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I am not from the Dallas market but have some knowledge of it. A while back I read that 1190 KLIF’s old frequency played 10,000 Beatles songs in a row and then went oldies.
I picked it up just before the power change and it sounded like a strong enphisis on late 60’s and 70’s songs. Then I returned to Shreveport and discovered 1160;. That station played almost all black oldies from the 70’s. I did not get to listen to either station for long because they faded out so my description of them could be wrong. What I want to know is what is the strategy of putting music stations like these that could be easily more successful on FM,. Just playing sweepers saying your mighty 1190 to bring up memories of the old days to complement the music is certainly not enough without the jocks and call letters but then again what else can you do with so many am stations in Dallas. The market only has room for a certain amount of news, sports Christian of one format or another. I am sure you all have already discussed these stations but I am out of the loop so please share your thoughts. I am especially interested in your thoughts on how much of a coincidence it is 2 am music oldies stations pop on so close to each others timing.

I noticed 1160 is on at night. Back in 1967 when it came on as KVIL I thought it was a daytymer. Is that true. I also thought it was top 40 but not think it was what we would call hot AC today. Does anyone know about that?
 
Wow, you just had a whole bunch to say about 2 stations doing very little. They are "placeholder" formats for 1st Broadcasting, a radio broker. Basically they come in, make signal improvements, get a little buzz going about an otherwise underperforming signal(s), and hope to sell it to whoever wants to do brokered Korean this week.<P ID="signature">______________
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> I noticed 1160 is on at night. Back in 1967 when it came on
> as KVIL I thought it was a daytymer. Is that true. I also
> thought it was top 40 but not think it was what we would
> call hot AC today. Does anyone know about that?

The old 1150 freq (as KVIL-AM and other callsigns) was originally daytime only...then it got nighttime power (all of 6 watts right down LBJ through the north side)...the move to 1160 has resulted in two new xmtr sites and power increase of 35KW day/1KW night:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=28618
 
> > I noticed 1160 is on at night. Back in 1967 when it came
> on
> > as KVIL I thought it was a daytymer. Is that true. I also
> > thought it was top 40 but not think it was what we would
> > call hot AC today. Does anyone know about that?
>
> The old 1150 freq (as KVIL-AM and other callsigns) was
> originally daytime only...then it got nighttime power (all
> of 6 watts right down LBJ through the north side)...the move
> to 1160 has resulted in two new xmtr sites and power
> increase of 35KW day/1KW night:
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=28618

KVIL came on in 1960 using 500 watts daytime, which was incresed
to 1000 about a year later. It was an AC until the late 60's when
the embarked on an ill-fated stint as a Top 40 going up against the
50,000 watt powerhouse KLIF 1190. In a totally stupid move, they
charactized themselves as a little "David" going up against Goliath,
and all the jocks used the first name of David! Fortunately Ron
Chapman, Hugh Lampman and Jack Schell came to the rescue and the rest
is history...
 
Music on AM

My thoughts on this ---

Without stereo and broadband, I just don't see music formats making much of a go on AM. IBOC is not the way to get there, either:

- It is not usable at night. A music station that is only stereo in the daytime is ridiculour.
- It self jams badly unless you are perfectly on frequency, and to a lesser degree depending on the bandwidth of your radio.
- The chips that support it are power hogs. There are no walkman type IBOC radios and won't be for quite some time.
- The radios are prohibitively expensive.

The ONLY hope for AM music stations in the short term is to have the FCC MANDATE Amax compatible AM tuners in every radio retailing over $50. They forced teletext decoders for the deaf into TV's, they can enforce Amax standards for AM. It is a mature technology, usable at night, inexpensive, reliable, and it sounds great!
 
Re: Music on AM

> The ONLY hope for AM music stations in the short term is to
> have the FCC MANDATE Amax compatible AM tuners in every
> radio retailing over $50. They forced teletext decoders for
> the deaf into TV's, they can enforce Amax standards for AM.
> It is a mature technology, usable at night, inexpensive,
> reliable, and it sounds great!

AMEN!!!! Bring on AMAX and bring back AM stereo...personally, I liked Kahn...
but then I have always been a rebel ;)
 
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