1190 Contacts

[OHTBGH]

Who is in charge there? An idea of the current rate card? Lets see if we can get some real programing on over there!

-BGH

 

[metroneck]

Why does 1190 get so much chatter on this board? Does anyone realize it's near (if not the) most least listened to station in the entire metro? When you follow the (post McClendon) era of 1190 right here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KFXR_(AM) and notice that it has been well programmed since Gordo, but still failed.

Imus, Opie and Anthony, sports, news, music, and none of which could keep the light bill paid. Houston (650) Tampa Bay Clear Chan, and markets all over the country are flipping dinosaur AM's to pay to play stations.

Religion, war, Pugs & Kelly, tax advice, and vitamin and lap band salespeople.

If it had a night signal, then it would be a 820, 570, or 1080 of it's own right...but it doesn't, and it won't.

The preachers need a station too, 1190 must be blessed by GAAAwdDDa, just keep that money comin.

 

[DFW_Radio_2000]

Why does 1190 get so much chatter on this board?

Because this is a message board about Dallas radio...KFXR is a Dallas radio station.

Last I checked, there isn't a rule that says we can only talk about stuff that you approve.

Each thread here is a different conversation happening simultaneously - you're under no obligation to click on a thread and read it...but if you do and don't care for the conversation - move on to the next thread. If you don't like it, why click on it and then reply?

Is it ok if we have conversations about somehing other than Russ, 105.3 or the ticket every once and a while?

 

[dfaulkner]

For whatever reason, probably because it is such a legendary frequency. (I heard it playing on more radios than I could possibly recall when I was growing up.) I always find discussions of 1190 interesting. It's not so Mighty at night, but it does have one of the most unique night patterns anyone will ever run across. I wish & hope that someday someone will revive it, turn it back into a viable, popular station. That may never happen. But it's fun to think about & discuss from time to time.

 

[Steve Eberhart]

I am always amused by these comments that suggest "1190" is not successful because it has a poor night pattern.

First, remember this is the same pattern at night that used to command 70% of the audience....pattern didn't seem to be an issue back then, when they had something worth listening to on it.

Second, AM stations utilizing a talk format don't typically get much listening at night even with a massive pattern.

Third, the day pattern is still awesome, 50,000 watts that will penetrate most any building within 60 miles of the towers.

So...the point is, yes, the night pattern leaves much to be desired, but the day pattern is on par with KRLD and WBAP. Put something on it that people are willing to listen to and it could be successful.

How about True Oldies Channel from Scott Shannon?...

 

[DFW_Radio_2000]

I am always amused by these comments that suggest "1190" is not successful because it has a poor night pattern.

First, remember this is the same pattern at night that used to command 70% of the audience....pattern didn't seem to be an issue back then, when they had something worth listening to on it.

Second, AM stations utilizing a talk format don't typically get much listening at night even with a massive pattern.

Third, the day pattern is still awesome, 50,000 watts that will penetrate most any building within 60 miles of the towers.

So...the point is, yes, the night pattern leaves much to be desired, but the day pattern is on par with KRLD and WBAP. Put something on it that people are willing to listen to and it could be successful.

How about True Oldies Channel from Scott Shannon?...

You're right about the content... I hate to use the quote (since it has been overused), but "if you build it, they will come."

The weekday schedule is by far the weakest part of the station...all brokered. The weekend has a few shows that are tolerable. The sports show at 2pm Saturday's are a couple of younger guys cutting their teeth, there's a golf show Sunday that isn't half bad...funny how the only shows there that don't pay to play are the best and burried weekends.

...and best by potential...the guys on Saturday could end up honing their craft and going across town to the ticket and doing weekends there someday, but in its raw state right now, it's better than some of the crap the fan has.

Damn, after saying there's enough ktck and krld threads, I worked them into this reply. Now if there was some way to bring Russ in, I'd have the trifecta!

 

[billyg]

It's disappointing that Clear Channel or any of the former owners of 1190 didn't sink some money into improving it's night signal into the NW metro when they had the chance. I doubt anything can be done now to improve the night signal into the north Dallas-Denton area.

 

[dfaulkner]

I am always amused by these comments that suggest "1190" is not successful because it has a poor night pattern.

First, remember this is the same pattern at night that used to command 70% of the audience....pattern didn't seem to be an issue back then, when they had something worth listening to on it.

Second, AM stations utilizing a talk format don't typically get much listening at night even with a massive pattern.

Third, the day pattern is still awesome, 50,000 watts that will penetrate most any building within 60 miles of the towers.

So...the point is, yes, the night pattern leaves much to be desired, but the day pattern is on par with KRLD and WBAP. Put something on it that people are willing to listen to and it could be successful.

How about True Oldies Channel from Scott Shannon?...

Amen !

 

[dfaulkner]

Imagine, if the format & the guys that are currently on big 1400 were on the mighty 1190.....

 

[oldmanradio]

In the early '70's, while attending the University of Oklahoma, I often listened to Rod Roddy's talk show on 1190.

Technically, I am a dunce.

I guess I was listening off the back of the beam since my understanding at the time was that the night pattern was predominately east-west.

Did McLendon not foresee the growth of north Dallas and the suburbs or did he not care and simply was "living for today", so to speak?

KLIF was even able to compete with KNUS for a time.

If you remember the days when it was almost a disgrace to have to work for an FM station, then you are getting old. ???

 

[dfaulkner]

The story of KLIF's night pattern is covered well in Steve Eberhart's History of KLIF website http://www.historyofklif.com/ I think the growth of the northern suburbs was basically unforseen in the late 1960's when the 12 tower bay used for 1190's night pattern was under construction. It went on the air in 1970, I believe.

 

[billyg]

Imagine, if the format & the guys that are currently on big 1400 were on the mighty 1190.....

That would be great.. for all it's shortcomings, KGVL is what the "Mighty 1190" format should have sounded like. ;D

 

[gabigley1]

The story of KLIF's night pattern is covered well in Steve Eberhart's History of KLIF website http://www.historyofklif.com/ I think the growth of the northern suburbs was basically unforseen in the late 1960's when the 12 tower bay used for 1190's night pattern was under construction. It went on the air in 1970, I believe.

Did KLIF have nighttime survive before the massive tower site was constructed? If so, what kind of power and antenna were they using?

 

[tomficker]

The weekday schedule is by far the weakest part of the station...all brokered. The weekend has a few shows that are tolerable. The sports show at 2pm Saturday's are a couple of younger guys cutting their teeth, there's a golf show Sunday that isn't half bad...funny how the only shows there that don't pay to play are the best and burried weekends.

...and best by potential...the guys on Saturday could end up honing their craft and going across town to the ticket and doing weekends there someday

Still beating the 1190 sports show drum

I have a feeling Metroneck's opinion would change if somehow JCW was on 1190.

I appreciate those on the board who are honest about who they are.

 

[DFW_Radio_2000]

The weekday schedule is by far the weakest part of the station...all brokered. The weekend has a few shows that are tolerable. The sports show at 2pm Saturday's are a couple of younger guys cutting their teeth, there's a golf show Sunday that isn't half bad...funny how the only shows there that don't pay to play are the best and burried weekends.

...and best by potential...the guys on Saturday could end up honing their craft and going across town to the ticket and doing weekends there someday

Still beating the 1190 sports show drum

I have a feeling Metroneck's opinion would change if somehow JCW was on 1190.

I appreciate those on the board who are honest about who they are.

Yeah I'm beating that drum. They're friends of mine, and they have potential. If you any had friend who had shot at doing something in radio, you'd do the same.

 

[jd]

Did KLIF have nighttime survive before the massive tower site was constructed? If so, what kind of power and antenna were they using?

Yes, they had nighttime service for years with 1,000 watts from a site off Scyene Road, basically east of downtown Dallas. The pattern is shown on the history of KLIF website and it basically excluded coverage of Tarrant County, although it did cover most of Dallas County and even northward into parts of Collin County. Gordon McLendon wanted to get the signal into Fort Worth, and it's true that he just didn't foresee the northward growth of the Dallas area. The narrow 5,000 watt signal did reach westward like he wanted, even though it's almost 60 miles from 1190's 12-tower site to downtown Fort Worth.

 

[gabigley1]

The story of KLIF's night pattern is covered well in Steve Eberhart's History of KLIF website http://www.historyofklif.com/

This site takes you directly to the history of KLIF:

http://www.klifhistory.com/

 

[dfaulkner]

The story of KLIF's night pattern is covered well in Steve Eberhart's History of KLIF website http://www.historyofklif.com/

This site takes you directly to the history of KLIF:

http://www.klifhistory.com/

Sorry. That's the link I intended to post.

 

[dfaulkner]

The story of KLIF's night pattern is covered well in Steve Eberhart's History of KLIF website http://www.historyofklif.com/ I think the growth of the northern suburbs was basically unforseen in the late 1960's when the 12 tower bay used for 1190's night pattern was under construction. It went on the air in 1970, I believe.

I can't modify this at this point, but I can correct it this way. The link to use is this one: http://www.klifhistory.com/

 

[billyg]

BTW is 1190 still for sale???? The only thing that'll save this station is a company who is willing to put some money into modifying the night pattern so it cover the NW metro.