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Today's radios are better equipped to pick up AM than before. I mention this because of the DIGITAL TUNER.
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Today's AM radios don't sound very good. The issue is audio fidelity.

I use an AM stereo receiver (and/or a GE Superadio in wideband) into a high-end cassette deck, and you'd swear the tapes are of an FM station (except for the reverb, and mono).

The fidelity is there in many cases, but the radios don't reproduce it.

C.
 
Again, it was under Bush that there actually was a chilling effect on free speech. If Bill Maher is the ONLY example, we could compare that to Rush being dropped by terrestrial radio and having to go to Sirius to remain on the air. This did happen to Howard Stern (sort of) and definitely BTLS. Not under Obama.
 
Pratte4Life said:
Let me go the other way, Part.

Today's radios are better equipped to pick up AM than before. I mention this because of the DIGITAL TUNER.

How much I would have loved to have had a digital tuner when trying to listen to the ball game from out of town on AM while growing up.
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Digital vs analog has absolutely nothing to do with it. Today's products have bad digital tuners as compared to yesterday's good analog tuners. It's all driven by cost.

Pratte4Life said:
To take your Tampa reference- let's face it- 1010 isn't really a 50,000 watter the way KDKA is. They turn down the power at night so not to compete with WINS out of New York, I believe, and they also don't have the heritage most stations have.

My God, I think the station's best-known talent ever was "The Fabulous Sports Babe." When that's your legacy, you're doomed to fail no matter what band you're on.
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You're right, 1010 in Tampa's a limited signal (most of its 50,000 watts is aimed at cows in the middle of the state, while it fails to cover the 1 million people in Pinellas county) and CBS has made no commitment to it. However, I compare that to signals like 1360 to point out that small AM signals have an even tougher road ahead.
 
The problem with your 1010 analogy is that it simply hasn't ever been a really good station.

Right now as a sports channel it probably has the best programming it has ever had and it would be comparable to WBGG locally in terms of content.

You could put their programming on any frequency and it just wouldn't do well. At least they don't have the three women who bought time in drive time trying to do a show anymore.

MSMusic- You're not arguing left v. right with your post. In the case of Maher and Stern the arguement is vulgarity.

If Stern and Maher are the face of the left wing in radio, you have yourselves some problems.

Under Bush, Air America went on the air and the left ceaselessly attacked him. Had he controlled the political content of the airwaves and filled it with propaganda he wouldn't have left with a 30 or 25 percent approval rating.

I don't know if Stern's numbers have increased or not on satellite. What I do know is while he may not be on The X anymore, he is now available to the entire country whereas he wasn't before. On top of that, his show is played on a loop on satellite, where it wasn't before. He is essentially the face of satellite radio. You can now get Stern if you want him. If you lived in Paducah, there was a good chance you couldn't prior to the Bush administration (not that I think George W. had anything to do with Stern's success or lack of in his career).

So under Bush, Stern became even more prosperous, he is now nationwide, and he is to satellite what Rush Limbaugh is to the AMs- if not more. Only we keep hearing how much better satellite is than lowly, out of date AM.

But I wouldn't call Stern a political commentator. I'm surprised you would.

Maher is essentially trying to do John McIntire on a national scale. This should tell you why ABC decided to go with Jimmy Kimmel in his time slot. Simply a better way to take on The Tonight Show and David Letterman.
 
P4L....You go ahead and invest in AM radio, I'll invest in satellite. Check back with me in 5 years.

And yet Boss is also right.... when you can do whatever you want, there's no buzz created by pushing the envelope.
 
I would not call Stern a political commentator, nor Bubba the Love Sponge. However, when their antics got them fired , both of them alleged poilitics . I would agree that they do not represnt the "left" anymore than Ted Nugent reprsents all conservatives. Even if you prove that Ari Fleisher and FIOS did nothing to chill free speech, you still have not shown what actions the Obama administration plans to limit free speech unless you think the FCC would levy fines which I believe did happen under Bush/Cheney as the result of BTLS's antics. He may be back, but I think COX has some controls on his show. Just as Quinn switched political sides after his run in with a lawsuit, I think Bubba claimed to a "liberal" after his dismissal from Clear Channel. what he claims now I have no idea as his style and music are not to my delicate tastes. Give me WISH 100/ Magic 94.9 wherever I am.
 
This is interesting.

Satellite makes one irrelevant according to one poster, and it is a worthy investment to another.

And that has nothing to do with my previous posts.

Let's review what I've said-

A- During his campaign and initially during office, Barack Obama attacked the Hannitys and Limbaughs of the world. My point- he was trying to take away their credibility- but that will only backfire because speaking of your critics only gives your critics attention and credibility they otherwise didn't have.

B- To say Stern or Maher were pushed out because of George W. Bush is laughable.

C- If the left is using Stern and/or Maher as their media faces, the right has reason to rejoice.
 
I don't have a problem with fining a vulgar broadcaster. Freedom of speech does not apply to yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theatre or showing 5-year-olds pornography.

In the case of Bubba, here is a guy best known for attempting to (I do not know if he succeeded or not) have a butcher slaughter a calf on the air.

You do that, and just as you will get the attention of the 15-year-old males who think that's cool, you'll also get the FCC's attention. As a side note, you'll also get the attention of Mark Madden, who wanted to duplicate this stunt on his airwaves for all of us in Pittsburgh but was stopped by management.

But with this attention comes the FCC asking if slaughtering a calf on the air for entertainment purposes is in tune with community standards. I think that's a legitimate question- don't you?

I realize there is always the mindset- "First slaughtering calves- then presenting opposing points of political view!" Yet we live in a country where we do have opposing viewpoints. Even if the right owns commercial talk radio clearly the left the left owns public radio- always broadcast on a powerful station in every community on a frequency of less than 90 FM.

So our own government makes sure we have opposing viewpoints- irregardless of who is in The White House.

The other thing is that the mindset that "First slaughtering calves- then presenting opposing points of political view!" is akin to the right's "First my AK-47- then my handgun!"

In conclusion, FCC fines are neither political directives coming from The White House, nor are they even effective in suppressing Stern, Bubba the Love Sponge, etc. All are working in broadcasting and doing well. An FCC fine to a prominent broadcaster is akin to a manager fining a major leaguer $500 for throwing his bat.

And if Sponge and Stern say politics got them fired, and not their own actions (and they both seem to be doing pretty well, by the way), then I have two phrases for them.

One, sour grapes.

Two, look in the mirror.
 
Just to further illustrate the point on how absurd it is for Howard Stern to say the right took him off terrestrial radio, the first politician to ever really go after Stern was Congressman Jim Moran, D-Va, a Pitt grad who represents the Northern Virginia suburbs of Washington, DC, in 1994.

That was Stern's first "I'm gonna get a politician" campaign, like he tried to do with Bush in 2004.

Moran, incidently, still has his seat, 15 years later. At last look he was going after daytime Viagra ads.
 
I agree Pratt, as much as I love to listen to Stern I don't want my 9 year old hearing him, he doesn't belong on the standard broadcast bands.
As for Stern's politics, he trashes the left as often as he trashes the right. I don't think party or ideology drives Stern.
 
cingram said:
Today's radios are better equipped to pick up AM than before. I mention this because of the DIGITAL TUNER.
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Today's AM radios don't sound very good. The issue is audio fidelity.

I use an AM stereo receiver (and/or a GE Superadio in wideband) into a high-end cassette deck, and you'd swear the tapes are of an FM station (except for the reverb, and mono).

The fidelity is there in many cases, but the radios don't reproduce it.

C.


Actually there are some fairly inexpensive AM receivers out there that perform very well on the AM band (primarily because they were designed for use in third-world countries where the major regional station may run 1kW). I think a lot of the fidelity issues these days are due to bad engineering (bad processing, overmodulation, or squeezed down to nothing by IBOC)
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Zipperhead said:
I agree Pratt, as much as I love to listen to Stern I don't want my 9 year old hearing him, he doesn't belong on the standard broadcast bands.
As for Stern's politics, he trashes the left as often as he trashes the right. I don't think party or ideology drives Stern.
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zip- I agree. Stern has gone after two politicians I know of- one was a Democrat and the other was a Republican.

When he was going to run for Governor of New York as a libertarian, he admitted he did not know what a libertarian was when he got into the race.
 
Pratte4Life said:
Only we keep hearing how much better satellite is than lowly, out of date AM.
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My comments had nothing to do with your own post?

And yes, we're both right (Boss and I).... Stern is irrelevant becuase many people tuned in to hear him break the rules. That's hard to do when there are so few rules. To a great extent what he now does is just porn.

Yet that does NOT mean that satellite has a limited future, especially when compared to AM. We still listen to recorded music but no longer do so on 45's, LP's, 8-tracks, cassettes or AM radio (except for the all-night polka bash, I guess). The content will move to the media people want to use, or the content with vanish with the antiquated technology.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
I would not call Stern a political commentator, nor Bubba the Love Sponge. However, when their antics got them fired , both of them alleged poilitics . I would agree that they do not represnt the "left" anymore than Ted Nugent reprsents all conservatives. Even if you prove that Ari Fleisher and FIOS did nothing to chill free speech, you still have not shown what actions the Obama administration plans to limit free speech unless you think the FCC would levy fines which I believe did happen under Bush/Cheney as the result of BTLS's antics. He may be back, but I think COX has some controls on his show. Just as Quinn switched political sides after his run in with a lawsuit, I think Bubba claimed to a "liberal" after his dismissal from Clear Channel. what he claims now I have no idea as his style and music are not to my delicate tastes. Give me WISH 100/ Magic 94.9 wherever I am.
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But the driving force against them in the FCC was Michael Copps, who pushed the decency agenda and was acting Chairman under Obama. He was an aide to Senator Hollings, and a Democrat.
 
But Part, you don't seem to realize that my point was not "AM good- Satellite bad." That line was not said to be sarcastic.

My point was that if the left is whining that somehow the right has taken off Stern from terrestrial radio, which we proved they haven't, he IS on a growing outlet, while the right wing talk shows that drive the left batty are on AM, with 104.7 being more the exception than the rule.
 
This is a radio board, I don't do politics... (at least other than my one outburst at that lib talk guy).... I was intentionally changing the subject.
 
Bubba had a pig killed in the 98 Rock parking lot. He would never have had a calf killed because of his buddy "Cowhead" Calta.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
1) It was Ari Fleischer who said Americans need to watch what they say. He didn't work for Obama
2 Bill Maher got pushed to pay TV . Also not under Obama.
3) Comcast moved MSNBC to a higher priced tier last year.
4) FIOS began under Bush.

In all fairness, exactly how is the Obama Administration trying to censor talk radio and TV ? Seems like Rush and Beck can say any outrageous stuff they want with no proof it's true. Obama hates white people is like JFK would take orders from Rome.
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Maher got badly shafted by ABC for that remark... which was tame by what I hear from normal discourse NOW. But he has the freedom to say whatever he wants on HBO... so he got the last laugh. Plus, MSNBC is unwatchable pap... as is CNN, HLN and Fox, and CNBC has no credibility whatsoever.

Several Democrats have freely said as many outragous and inflammatory statements they want with no proof its' true. Or they tell horrible off-color jokes that offend families of Down Syndrome children, plus Indian-Americans, Catholics, Jews, African-Americans, etc. The Pelosi quote that basically labeled normal American citizens as Nazis was downright DESPICABLE. Mike Malloy, on his little-heard, often-ignored lib talk show, openly said on the air that he desires for Glenn Beck to fall off the wagon and pulling a Budd Dwyer live on his Fox News Show.

THAT'S outrageous. THAT'S inflammatory. They lie and claim that their enemies are... well, what THEY are. The pot calling the kettle black.
 
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