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14 applications for new Vancouver area stations - 2 for Cranbrook, B.C.

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Dan Sys

The CRTC released the Broadcasting Notice of Consultation today making public the format, frequency, and power details on 14 applications for new stations in Surrey, Vancouver, and Aldergrove (as well as 2 in Cranbrook). The hearing will be held January 27, 2014 at the Sheraton Guildford Hotel in Surrey.

As predicted the frequency of choice for most of the applicants is 107.7, however someone has also applied for 98.3 which doesn't make any sense with Rogers CKSR in Chilliwack also operating on 98.3. The big surprise is the fact that 2 of the applicants are proposing to bring 600 AM back to life (the former CJOR/CHRX/CKBD Vancouver).

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-568.htm
 
What?! Ain't going to happen with all the FM interference nowadays. CKSR will hammer most of these 98.3 signals, as would CIOC 200 khz up. And then 107.7 may have interference from Abbotsford BC's 107.5 or the small 107.9's in the area.

-crainbebo
 
I think the application for the Business News station on the old CKBD would be pretty nice. Unfortunately, I imagine 600 will end up as another Multicultural station
 
600 is way open nowadays, even night. Only thing that really pops up is CJWW Saskatoon, and sometimes KCOL in CO towards sunrise. I've received KOGO a couple of times, ditto KGEZ in MT.

I suppose 600 will be ANOTHER one of those Punjabi stations like KRPI, but Business News would be great too.

-crainbebo
 
What I found interesting was CKYE 93.1's application for two rebroadcasters to overcome IBOC interference from KISM 92.9. (they specifically cited IBOC interference and KISM in their application)

On the one hand it's easy to see this as confirmation that IBOC is a bad idea, creating interference even on FM. On the other hand, you don't have to be an engineer to realize 93.1 might not have been the best choice of frequencies for a new station only a few kilometers from a high-powered 92.9.

(my gut feeling is the CRTC is not going to be inclined to allow the use of a valuable Vancouver frequency for a station that will only rebroadcast something else)
 
dougw9wi said:
What I found interesting was CKYE 93.1's application for two rebroadcasters to overcome IBOC interference from KISM 92.9. (they specifically cited IBOC interference and KISM in their application)

On the one hand it's easy to see this as confirmation that IBOC is a bad idea, creating interference even on FM. On the other hand, you don't have to be an engineer to realize 93.1 might not have been the best choice of frequencies for a new station only a few kilometers from a high-powered 92.9.

(my gut feeling is the CRTC is not going to be inclined to allow the use of a valuable Vancouver frequency for a station that will only rebroadcast something else)
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I enjoy when KISM ruins the signal of 93.1. CJRJ 1200 is pretty interesting to listen to, I will admit. CKYE is just annoying, and it is unfair that they were allowed to move in on the territory covered by KISM 92.9. That KISM signal will always overpower that low powered CKYE signal.
 
Here are my unscientific predictions:

1)-107.7 will be awarded to Sky Radio (SKY 107).
2)-600 will be awarded to Channel Zero (BIZ 600).
3)-Sher-E-Punjab's application will be approved in principle , but they will have to find another AM frequency other than 600.
4)-CKYE 93.1 (RED FM) will have their repeaters in Surrey at 91.5 and 107.9 in Abbotsford approved.
5)-CJRJ 1200 will have their repeater at 106.9 in Surrey approved.
 
Wouldn't 107.7 interfere with a co-channel full Class C from Seattle? OK, I don't know what the specifics are but KNND's 40dbu extends north to just past Bellingham, at which point, it would be inside of CBU(FM)'s 70dbu contour. This is going to take some interesting engineering to get a competitive signal up there, without walking all over the Seattle station.
 
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semoochie said:
Wouldn't 107.7 interfere with a co-channel full Class C from Seattle? OK, I don't know what the specifics are but KNND's 40dbu extends north to just past Bellingham, at which point, it would be inside of CBU(FM)'s 70dbu contour. This is going to take some interesting engineering to get a competitive signal up there, without walking all over the Seattle station.
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40dBu doesn't count, KNDD is protected from interference only within its 60dBu contour. (the red circle on the Radio-Locator maps, which doesn't quite reach Mount Vernon) That, and any interference that happens in Canada doesn't count -- U.S. stations are only entitled to protection within the U.S..
 
Here is a thought... Why doesn't CKYE apply to move their transmitter TO Surrey? The bulk of people who would listen live south of the Fraser River anyway, in the Newton area of Surrey.

The CKYE signal works fine downtown, but that really is not where they are trying to target their signal.
 
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dougw9wi said:
40dBu doesn't count, KNDD is protected from interference only within its 60dBu contour. (the red circle on the Radio-Locator maps, which doesn't quite reach Mount Vernon) That, and any interference that happens in Canada doesn't count -- U.S. stations are only entitled to protection within the U.S..
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As I recall, two co-channel stations' 40dbu contours may not intersect! Otherwise, the 60dbu contour can't be protected.
 
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