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1470 Flips to Biz talk

Genesis launches all Business News format in Tampa

WMGG AM 1470 became BAY BIZ Radio 1470 this morning. The station programming includes Bloomberg Radio, CNBC, NBC News, Lou Dobbs, Business Talk Radio as well as Clark Howard and Jerry Doyle. Bay Biz 1470 will also carry the new Washington Times Morning Program when it launches later in the month.

They bring in whiney Clark Howard? I thought 1250 had him... So the oldies and standards didnt last long, did they?
Genesis still made a big mistake by dumping Boortz and letting Salem have him to only bury him late at nite.
 
BAY-BIZ? Jeesh..well there goes another one. Business talk is usually just the very last thing to be programmed short of "lights out"..and it's usually a more easy-to-swallow name for brokered programming...and cheaper than music so no annoying ASCAP or BMI fees except for Clark Howards "Fine Young Cannibals" theme song. What a totally unimagininative route to take.

Too bad..business is so dicey right now that it will likely be hours on end of financial doom and failure..great radio there.
 
I remember how well it went for WHNZ when the all news format was trashed....lol.

Biz media is all visual. Wild eyed, middle aged white male speculators thrashing about like a coke addict with tourettes.

No thanks.
 
Been there, tried that (elsewhere). It's a gigantic snoozefest, but may bring a few $50-a-holler entrepreuners aboard. Maybe they could get Investors Edge with Gary "Kultbomb". He's been giving investors the straight poop on market trends for years-- usually WEEKS AFTER IT HAPPENS. "Told you so."

The all-biz format was tried 15-20 years ago on KCEO in San Diego. It's only mildly interesting for short periods of time when the economy is booming. Now they'll need Prozac to keep listeners from defenestrating. Well maybe they'll run the stockstrologer show (Tiger Financial) where they use asstral (sic) charts, bear scat, and candle drippings to predict stock trends. Works as well as anything else....
 
Been there, tried that (elsewhere). It's a gigantic snoozefest, but may bring a few $50-a-holler entrepreuners aboard. Maybe they could get Investors Edge with Gary "Kultbomb". He's been giving investors the straight poop on market trends for years-- usually WEEKS AFTER IT HAPPENS. "Told you so."

The all-biz format was tried 15-20 years ago on KCEO in San Diego

In all fairness, KCEO is licensed to Carlsbad (up the coast from San Diego near the I-5) and has a marginal, at best, signal in San Diego and would not have survived because of that.
 
This is no less than the SIXTH attempt at "Business Radio" in the Tampa Bay market over the last 20 years... and the SECOND at 1470! Why do stations keep returning to this failed, rejected format?
 
smedge2006 said:
This is no less than the SIXTH attempt at "Business Radio" in the Tampa Bay market over the last 20 years... and the SECOND at 1470! Why do stations keep returning to this failed, rejected format?

The same reason why everything that happens at Genesis happens.
 
Sixth time, WOW! Didn't realize it was that many, but do remember when it was 1470 WFNN. "Mega Money" (or whatever)... UGHHHH. Just bring back WCWR. ;)
 
smedge2006 said:
This is no less than the SIXTH attempt at "Business Radio" in the Tampa Bay market over the last 20 years... and the SECOND at 1470! Why do stations keep returning to this failed, rejected format?

Given the other stations in Genesis' Tampa cluster - news/talk on 820 and sports talk on 1040 - this is probably more of a sales decision than anything else. Few will listen, but it'll look spiffy in their portfolio...

As far as business talk being a "last resort" for AM stations... well, can anyone name a single FM station, past or present, that has used the business talk format?
 
DToTheJ said:
As far as business talk being a "last resort" for AM stations... well, can anyone name a single FM station, past or present, that has used the business talk format?

Not in this market Joe, but for a while WBON 98.5 in Westhampton, Long Island was LMAd to the Business Talk Radio Network, but now they're the successful Spanish Tropical La Fiesta 98.5/96.9
 
May be a good idea to move Dave Ramsey to 1470. High profile guy and the show is about personal finance.
 
May be a good idea to move Dave Ramsey to 1470. High profile guy and the show is about personal finance.

With billboards (probably co-op) all over town plugging Ramsey on 820's 50 kW signal, I doubt he would accept a demotion to 1470.
 
Well, WMGG's switch to BAY BIZ Radio 1470 frees up another pushbutton on my AM radio. I guess I don't have any reason to tune into the AM band - things come and things go.
 
Just a marketing idea. Change the call letters of each station to have something that could be called "Bay". Then they would have "Bay Biz 1470" "Bay Talk 820" and "Bay Sports 1040" Just a thought. Covering Tampa Bay with News, Talk, Business, and Sports, the Bay family of stations.
 
A nice, even practical idea, but Frank if you've ever had the (dis)pleasure of working with ESPN, you must use the ESPN moniker in each and every liner, bumper, billboard, leaflet or thought you have. In no way would they approve anything like your suggesting for 1040.
 
Figured that is the case with ESPN....still think Ramsey would help 1470 and make sense as well....
 
I like business news and talk and I hope it succeeds. Hopefully it won't get bogged down in right-wing political ideology. That's already well represented on every other Tampa talker.
 
I like business news and talk and I hope it succeeds. Hopefully it won't get bogged down in right-wing political ideology. That's already well represented on every other Tampa talker.

If you don't think that will happen on 1470, you've never heard of Rick Santelli. :D 1470's lineup includes Lou Dobbs -- enough said. Dave Ramsey is seen on Fox Business channel and sometimes FNC, and frequently attacks the Obama administration. He spent a lot of time on his show in 2003 defending regressive taxation in Alabama. Gary Kaltbaum also appears on Fox and opines from the right. Even Clark Howard dips into ideology now and then. Most business media tilt rightward -- check out the local "Business Journals" and the business paper down in Sarasota. The only (occasional) exception I've ever heard in financial radio was Bob Brinker.

Even among talk shows that really shouldn't be about ideology -- financial advice, personal advice, etc. -- there is a tendency to pander to the existing right-wing audience, perhaps to gain better clearances on big stations (?)
 
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