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17-2 and MGM not on Comcast

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oasisrulz

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Comcast seems to carry all the side band channels, US/abc weather/nbc weather, and a host of other nonsense, except for Channel 17-2 which is probably the best of the lot, they show only nostalgic televison shows and movies.... Dish TV in the Philadelphia city proper carries WMGM Channel 40, but Comcast does not, I realize its a copy of NBC, but I thought it is a must carry station. And while I am on this rant, the GSN, is still not carried by Comcast South Philly, every cable company in the nation carries it, but for some strange reason Comcast South/CC refuses to carry it, when I inquire, they never respond correctly...this channel has been on for over 20yrs what is their problem....
 
Well, neither channel has must-carry status in Philadelphia. The WMGM example is much like WMUR Manchester, NH (technically in the Boston DMA). It's only required to be carried in areas where the over-the-air signal gives them a significantly viewed or local status. That's not the case in Philadelphia proper, where WCAU is dominant and WMGM is not.

In the WMUR example, it's carried throughout New Hampshire, but only on cable systems located in areas of Massachusetts that border New Hampshire. It's OTA signal is much stronger in the Boston suburbs than WMGM's is in the Philly suburbs, yet it is not deemed to cover that area and is not offered on most cable systems.

As for Dish, I believe what happens is a quirk in the regs where all stations from within a given market can petition to be carried. Once they're in, I suppose that they can be offered as if they are in-market. The technical capacity of the satellite provider may not be capable of filtering down to that level of geography. So, they offer all stations within a market. It just so happens that WMGM (like WMUR) is a longstanding quirk, so some folks get two network affiliates for the price of one.

Of course the flip side is for those living near the edge of a market, like folks in western and central Chester County. There, Comcast offers WGAL because its significantly viewed. But, I do not believe that the satellite providers offer anything more than Philly locals. I have heard something about a way to petition for adjacent market signals, but I don't know how that works and I think you'd be forced to jump through some hoops.

As for subchannels, there's no must-carry provision for them. CBS would have to play hardball with Comcast to get 17-2 included on the lineup. Maybe that will happen the next time the franchise agreement is renewed but, until then, Comcast is not required to add that channel.
 
BRNout said:
As for subchannels, there's no must-carry provision for them. CBS would have to play hardball with Comcast to get 17-2 included on the lineup. Maybe that will happen the next time the franchise agreement is renewed but, until then, Comcast is not required to add that channel.

CBS has nothing to do with 17-2, Tribune owns WPHL.
 
Comcast used to carry WPHL-DT2. They took it off after they lost the sports programming to NBC. With all the sub-channels added in the last couple of days by Comcast, WPHL-DT2 was not one of them. Does Fios carry it?
 
I remember Comcast carrying a 24 hour video music channel TUBE-TV which was a good alternative to the MTV junk, I think it was either 17-1 or 17-2, when the channel went bankrupt they replaced it with sports for a few days and then deleted it, so I cannot understand why Comcast does not add 17-2.
 
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