1700 WJRG-AM Endicott, NY?

[PaulBWalkerJr]

WJRG is a Part 15 station, using an AM1000 Rangemaster Transmitter. It *IS* FCC Certified as Part 15. www.am1000rangemaster.com

It is OK fror part 15 srarions to choose vanity call letters as WJRG-AM has done, as long as there's NO other station close by with the same or similar call letters.

Learn something about Part 15 before you speak.. and let the kids have fun!

 

[wjrgam]

WJRG is a Part 15 station, using an AM1000 Rangemaster Transmitter. It *IS* FCC Certified as Part 15. www.am1000rangemaster.com

It is OK fror part 15 srarions to choose vanity call letters as WJRG-AM has done, as long as there's NO other station close by with the same or similar call letters.

Learn something about Part 15 before you speak.. and let the kids have fun!

Thank you. I'm sure the new arguement started because Mr. Yeager and I have had past disagreements before (on a religious music board). And, as for MACK184, it's not that I am being evasive - I'm not commenting because the station isn't in my name, and neither are the call letters. And my ministery has nothing to do with anything - certainly not the station. The ONLY thing I do is sign checks (actually, I have already signed a book of around 50 blank checks) and check message boards and myspace - the kids do everything else; they pay the BMI, ASCAP, etc (keeping track of everything), bills and such. And considering the station runs on donation these kids can grab from local merchants, and the occassional grant, I think they're doing a wonderful job.

 

[MACK184]

WJRG is a Part 15 station, using an AM1000 Rangemaster Transmitter. It *IS* FCC Certified as Part 15. www.am1000rangemaster.com

It is OK fror part 15 srarions to choose vanity call letters as WJRG-AM has done, as long as there's NO other station close by with the same or similar call letters.

Learn something about Part 15 before you speak.. and let the kids have fun!

Re-read Cowabunga. And YOU learn a few things.

 

[wjrgam]

WJRG is a Part 15 station, using an AM1000 Rangemaster Transmitter. It *IS* FCC Certified as Part 15. www.am1000rangemaster.com

It is OK fror part 15 srarions to choose vanity call letters as WJRG-AM has done, as long as there's NO other station close by with the same or similar call letters.

Learn something about Part 15 before you speak.. and let the kids have fun!

Re-read Cowabunga. And YOU learn a few things.

Cowabunga is wrong - sorry.

 

[PaulBWalkerJr]

Ok, so I mis-spelled the word "stations"..

I KNOW my part 15 stuff.......

 

[wjrgam]

It won't really matter much because Justine is getting rid of the station before the end of the year because she can't believe the lack of support for what she's been doing.

 

[PaulBWalkerJr]

Unfortunately, that's extremely sad to hear! Why do you think there's a lack of support??

 

[wjrgam]

Mainly because people are cheap and apathetic. But, from what I understand, someone will be taking the transmitter over (using the same call letters)

 

[PaulBWalkerJr]

If i can help, lemme know..........

I see her posting on myspace ALLLLLL the time.....

 

[cowabunga]

Quote from: MACK184 on July 21, 2006, 06:06:47 pm
Quote from: PaulBWalkerJr on July 21, 2006, 04:01:09 pm
WJRG is a Part 15 station, using an AM1000 Rangemaster Transmitter. It *IS* FCC Certified as Part 15. www.am1000rangemaster.com

It is OK fror part 15 srarions to choose vanity call letters as WJRG-AM has done, as long as there's NO other station close by with the same or similar call letters.

Learn something about Part 15 before you speak.. and let the kids have fun!


Re-read Cowabunga. And YOU learn a few things.

Cowabunga is wrong - sorry.


About what? Vanity calls are a matter of public record! Part 96 of Title 47. There is also no provision in the rules for call letters for Part 15 operation. You must prove that your signal level does not exceed the Part 15 restrictions. Who was the engineer that took those measurements? Where's the proof? How about your antenna? Does that meet Part 15 standards? This too is part of the public record. I have over 25 years in radio and about as many years as a broadcast educator on the college level and I make my living in the business. As far as your claim to be training kids to be broadcasters, It's no wonder the school will have nothing to do with this effort. Based on what I read here this is a classic case of Pirate Broadcasting. Are you teaching and supporting illegal activities? According to the FCC Field office in Buffalo (those are the folks that cover the Binghamton Region for inspections and complaints) "There is no such thing as a legal low power FM station" unless it's licensed as an LP-100. You folks might try applying for an LP-10 license if the window ever opens. Good luck!

 

[wjrgam]

Quote from: MACK184 on July 21, 2006, 06:06:47 pm
Quote from: PaulBWalkerJr on July 21, 2006, 04:01:09 pm
WJRG is a Part 15 station, using an AM1000 Rangemaster Transmitter. It *IS* FCC Certified as Part 15. www.am1000rangemaster.com

It is OK fror part 15 srarions to choose vanity call letters as WJRG-AM has done, as long as there's NO other station close by with the same or similar call letters.

Learn something about Part 15 before you speak.. and let the kids have fun!


Re-read Cowabunga. And YOU learn a few things.

Cowabunga is wrong - sorry.


About what? Vanity calls are a matter of public record! Part 96 of Title 47. There is also no provision in the rules for call letters for Part 15 operation. You must prove that your signal level does not exceed the Part 15 restrictions. Who was the engineer that took those measurements? Where's the proof? How about your antenna? Does that meet Part 15 standards? This too is part of the public record. I have over 25 years in radio and about as many years as a broadcast educator on the college level and I make my living in the business. As far as your claim to be training kids to be broadcasters, It's no wonder the school will have nothing to do with this effort. Based on what I read here this is a classic case of Pirate Broadcasting. Are you teaching and supporting illegal activities? According to the FCC Field office in Buffalo (those are the folks that cover the Binghamton Region for inspections and complaints) "There is no such thing as a legal low power FM station" unless it's licensed as an LP-100. You folks might try applying for an LP-10 license if the window ever opens. Good luck!

I'm not really sure who you are (maybe the self-proclaimed God of radio), but you really have no idea what you are talking about. It's not the school district that would have nothing to do with the station - it's the other way around. The school district supports the station 100% with announcements in the school newspaper and morning announcements. Second, we're AM not FM - it doesn't need a license, since it's under the legal limit, and yes, we've had a certifide engineer check the whole thing out (both when it was first set up, and then again after the flood when our signal appeared to be stronger). It's people like you that are the reason the kids don't want to do this anymore - people that need to rain on their parade.

Additionally, just because you're old, doesn't make you knowedgable. I studied radio in college, and taught journalism (including broadcast journalism) for 5 years. Additionally, I co-authored a textbook on jounralism in the high school level (which was used in the NYC school district for 5 years after I retired). And, again,, I AM NOT TEACHING THEM ANYTHING!!!! All I do is sign checks, and deal with people like yu so the kids at the station don't end up having to drink Pepto on a regular basis. I'm sure someone like you will be the reason we get investigated by the FCC (if we do). It certainly won't be from the radio staions in this area (which the kids have taken great care not to step on or go near) or listeners in the area.

 

[PaulBWalkerJr]

Im so sorry to see this happening and having people rain on WJRG's parade. I'm fairly young myself, and I've had it from both sides of the coin.

There are those who are somewhat negative and always find something wrong with whatever Im doing radio related and find away not to make it a positive thing.

Then, there are those... who are constantly supportive of me in whatever manner they choose and that continually motivates me to know someone beleives in me. Because, trust me.. I have days where I doubt myself when I've had a rough day.. but I think everything goes thru that.

I've been involved with part 15 Broadcasting on and off for years .. I know the ins and outs of the regulations concerning it. Alot of broadcast engineers are unfamiliar with it, so they choose to poo=poo it as ill-legal.

Let me assure you, the AM1000 Ragnemaster is 100 percent legal under Part15 rules. keith Hamilton wouldn't sell it if it weren't and I'm not sure it can even be modified to go beyond 100MW. When it comes to part 15, AM limits are in relation to power, which is 100 Milliwatts. On FM, the limits are 250mv/3m.

If everyone on this board is so concerned about them operatig ill-legally, why don't you pay them a visit and inspect their certification letter and transmitter yourself? I'm sure the good man would be happy to show you.

Maybe the fact automation and voicetracking isn't the only reason radio is dying.. maybe it's negative people discouraging the youth of today who are extremely excited about radio. I'm 22 and I've been doing some form of radio since I was 16........... I wouldn't give it up for anything in the world.

Instead of being so negative, encourage this kids.... give them a little support. As my mom always taught me........

"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all" how friggen hard is that to understand?

 

[MACK184]

Since I know Mr. Cowabunga, and KNOW that he is an excellent engineer, who absolutely KNOWS what he is talking about, I am more than certain that neither of you DON'T know what you're talking about. I am finding this to be a ridiculous arguement. A preacher who claims on one message to know nothing about the operation of this station, and then another who writes checks and handles the operation's business. Then for some reason, a small local most likely pirate operation, has gotten the attention of someone from that mecca of civilization North Dakota. Unlike Mr. Walker, I actually graduated from U-E high school, and I can certainly imagine that U-E would have nothing to do with this operation. The good reverend is now whining that people like Cowabunga are going to bring the FCC inspectors down upon this station that depending on his message he either knows or doesn't know anything about. If indeed this station is legal and has a valid FCC license, he has nothing to worry about. But, if I as I suspect, this is nothing but an illegal pirate, then somebody's going to get their wrists slapped and good. You see it's sort of like being an illegal immigrant. What is it that you don't understand about the word...ILLEGAL??? Hmmmm??? No one is raining on the "kids" parade except those who are sustaining an illegal operation. Unless you can provide PROOF...real PROOF that you are licensed. You have nothing to talk about. What is your current VALID FCC license number. That MUST be an item of public record. You cannot tell someone it's none of their business. Unless you can produce that license number, then you are nothing but an illegel pirate.

 

[wjrgam]

Since I know Mr. Cowabunga, and KNOW that he is an excellent engineer, who absolutely KNOWS what he is talking about, I am more than certain that neither of you DON'T know what you're talking about. I am finding this to be a ridiculous arguement. A preacher who claims on one message to know nothing about the operation of this station, and then another who writes checks and handles the operation's business. Then for some reason, a small local most likely pirate operation, has gotten the attention of someone from that mecca of civilization North Dakota. Unlike Mr. Walker, I actually graduated from U-E high school, and I can certainly imagine that U-E would have nothing to do with this operation. The good reverend is now whining that people like Cowabunga are going to bring the FCC inspectors down upon this station that depending on his message he either knows or doesn't know anything about. If indeed this station is legal and has a valid FCC license, he has nothing to worry about. But, if I as I suspect, this is nothing but an illegal pirate, then somebody's going to get their wrists slapped and good. You see it's sort of like being an illegal immigrant. What is it that you don't understand about the word...ILLEGAL??? Hmmmm??? No one is raining on the "kids" parade except those who are sustaining an illegal operation. Unless you can provide PROOF...real PROOF that you are licensed. You have nothing to talk about. What is your current VALID FCC license number. That MUST be an item of public record. You cannot tell someone it's none of their business. Unless you can produce that license number, then you are nothing but an illegel pirate.

PLEASE VISIT THE FCC WEB SITE BEFORE YOU SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE.

An AM station under 1-watt cannot be licenced with the FCC. The station does not NEED one to operate, but needs a tax id number to hire people (which Justine got on her 14th birthday) and pay the music rights (BMI, ASCAP, etc). Neither is the M.O. for a "pirate" station. Which makes me wonder if you even know what a pirate station is. Do you?

As for UE - they definetely are a part of the station - including accreditted internships and coverage.

 

[SirRoxalot]

Mack,

Perhaps you might take a few moments to go to the link that was provided.

There, you will find a link to the FCC rules & regs for Part 15 broadcasting. The Rangemaster was built specifically to broadcast within the limits set by the FCC.

As far as call letters are concerned, they are not required for a Part 15 operation. If you choose to use call letters, you must make sure that they cannot be confused with stations that may be recieved in your geographic area under normal circumstances.

I became VERY familiar with Part 15 broadcasting in college, where we ran a carrier-current station. I have recently updated my knowledge of Part 15 broadcasting and its use in event-related environments - like drive-in theatres & stadiums. I count the Chief Engineers of two local radio groups as resources for making sure that the installations are 100% legal.

If WJRG AM is being operated as described, with an FCC type-accepted transmitter & antenna, it is very likely to be a legal operation.

 

[PaulBWalkerJr]

No wonder the kids want to give up....

 

[wjrgam]

The kids have pulled the plug.

 

[StaticFMDJ]

You Know, I Just Need to say a few words. First of all, Kudos to "WJRG" for doing something that most AM/FM stations are not doing, something different. Yes YOU in the "BIG WOOPIE I'M A LICENCED CLASS A" biz, read that again. And to you----posting negative whom are in the business working on AM/FM should be ashamed of yourselves for even mentioning things like Are You PART 15 or "PIRATE"??. Don't you realize their is bigger competition out there, Lets all say SATELLITE together please. I get more interference from other cars with SIRIUS and XM receivers on FM-- than ANY PART 15 AM or even FM broadcaster (or you call PIRATE) just going to and from work trying to receive a distant signal(LIKE ANOTHER MARKET SOUTH OF US). I am appalled that someone could even ask this AM broadcaster about signal/legallity when AM and FM are less listened to than ever, or even much at all. What harm could AM 1700 do to you?? You better look to the sky first, and then second check your legallity. WHAT? EAS WHAT?? MODULATION WHAT?? Don't Worry, Just-In-Case you are wondering--the calls are....... Anyways, just so you know otherwise, I can get someones Satellite signals for many miles so long as I dont change my cruise control settings everyday, and someone has to make a stink about a mere nothing nothing of a watt??? Come on. Check your own Equipment). Your just angry that even if the station had only one listener, it was 1 more..... But you fill that in. We need more diversity,especially since "licenced" stations are even hardly being listened to. I'll be activating my Satellite subscription now. Hey, why not, ITS UNREGULATED!! (WHAT? I CAN"T HERE YOU ANYMORE?? WHAT?? PART 15 WHAT??) Betcha I'll never here you sportscasting or doing voicetrax on any of these 100 and some channels. Better Not Mention It's a Dephi or you'll have me investigated. OOPS. I think no matter what it is on AM or FM, more is MORE. I Congratulate all that supported AM 1700. You whom want to get all technical--Lets talk about what the FCC and former President Clinton did for corporate Media. Nah, you already know.

 

[StaticFMDJ]

I HAVEN'T ONE PERSON TO REPLY TO THIS BELOW??? SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

You Know, I Just Need to say a few words. First of all, Kudos to "WJRG" for doing something that most AM/FM stations are not doing, something different. Yes YOU in the "BIG WOOPIE I'M A LICENCED CLASS A" biz, read that again. And to you----posting negative whom are in the business working on AM/FM should be ashamed of yourselves for even mentioning things like Are You PART 15 or "PIRATE"??. Don't you realize their is bigger competition out there, Lets all say SATELLITE together please. I get more interference from other cars with SIRIUS and XM receivers on FM-- than ANY PART 15 AM or even FM broadcaster (or you call PIRATE) just going to and from work trying to receive a distant signal(LIKE ANOTHER MARKET SOUTH OF US). I am appalled that someone could even ask this AM broadcaster about signal/legallity when AM and FM are less listened to than ever, or even much at all. What harm could AM 1700 do to you?? You better look to the sky first, and then second check your legallity. WHAT? EAS WHAT?? MODULATION WHAT?? Don't Worry, Just-In-Case you are wondering--the calls are....... Anyways, just so you know otherwise, I can get someones Satellite signals for many miles so long as I dont change my cruise control settings everyday, and someone has to make a stink about a mere nothing nothing of a watt??? Come on. Check your own Equipment). Your just angry that even if the station had only one listener, it was 1 more..... But you fill that in. We need more diversity,especially since "licenced" stations are even hardly being listened to. I'll be activating my Satellite subscription now. Hey, why not, ITS UNREGULATED!! (WHAT? I CAN"T HERE YOU ANYMORE?? WHAT?? PART 15 WHAT??) Betcha I'll never here you sportscasting or doing voicetrax on any of these 100 and some channels. Better Not Mention It's a Dephi or you'll have me investigated. OOPS. I think no matter what it is on AM or FM, more is MORE. I Congratulate all that supported AM 1700. You whom want to get all technical--Lets talk about what the FCC and former President Clinton did for corporate Media. Nah, you already know.

 

[Hunan Man]

I’ll respond:

Where are you getting YOUR facts? AM/FM are barely listened to anymore? No body is listening to Terrestrial radio? You should get some fact right…I’ll help educate you:

-250 Million Americans Admit to using Terrestrial radio Every Week.
250 Million is 250 with six zeros, or 250,000,000. The entire population of the US is somewhere around 300,000,000. You do the math.

-The 12 to 14 million subscribers Satellite radio Claims to have also includes vehicles sitting in a lot waiting to be purchased. Yes, all those BMW’s, GM’s, and so on, that offer 6 months free XM are counted in that total. An educated guess put the real subscribers at around 8 million.

8 million compared to 250 million? Still think AM and FM is Dieing? Well…Then here is one more FACT:

-Subscribers of Satellite radio report spending more time listening to terrestrial radio than their paid services.

Google that S&^T if you don’t believe…Just Don’t stop…Belevin’…Hold on to that FEEEEEEEELIN’…Streeeet Light…People….

Citations: Arbitron; Bridge Media; Bridge ratings; Jacobs Media Research; Media Buyer Planner; Steve Perry; Journey.