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1700 XEPE heard in Tampa

So I'm listening to 1700 tonight to hear the last of KVNS playing it's oldies format and in the background of KVNS and WJCC is what sounds like a football game.

It came in strong enough to where I heard them say "Oceanside" a couple times so I Googled 'Oceanside football' and it's located between San Diego and Los Angeles.

Then, I thought of seeing if XEPE has a live stream and they do. Once I put that on, it was obviously the same game I was hearing on the radio and then they went into commercial with a Pizza Hut ad and I went back to my radio and I could hear the same woman's voice coming out of my radio, as there's not much of a delay between the online stream and live broadcast.

I had my video camera ready to roll and at one point XEPE came in loud and clear for a few seconds, completely overpowering both WJCC and KVNS but there was no station ID or anything else to identify it by.

I knew all along it probably was XEPE only because it comes in the strongest when the radio faces about the same direction where KVNS is the strongest. I've heard a sports station many times in the past on 1700 way in the background coming from the same direction, so it looks like it's been XEPE the whole time.
 
GREAT catch gar! I have caught KVNS, but never WJCC. XEPE is a regular, and the closest station on 1700. (Not counting TIS stns)
I first caught them five or six years ago when they were still "Cash 1700" with business talk.

-crainbebo
 
Yes indeed, that's a great catch.

Here in East Texas it's a mix of KVNS and XEPE and despite occasional fading of KVNS, XEPE usually remains underneath, never on top. (BTW, nighttime reception of KKLF really isn't a factor here, despite being only 93 miles away.)
 
Great catch Gar! Glad you finally confirmed what you thought you've been hearing all this time - always a good feeling. As I do most weekends overnight, I was recording the upper part of the MW band. After seeing your post, I went back to last night's recording and dialed up 1700 and sure enough - there's XEPE loud and clear with high school football and a string of local ads for San Diego businesses, I think the game was sponsored by a San Diego Toyota dealership. I've heard XEPE a few times here but probably not as good as last night's recording. Do you know the exact time of your recording? It would be fun to compare signals at the same time with my recordings.
 
Thanks, you guys.

I don't know the exact time but I know it was getting close to midnight my time, eastern time, but it was certainly before midnight.

At the time, I remember thinking "Why is a high school football game being played so late?" but then I realized the three hour difference. LOL

Does XEPE broadcast at 10kw at night too? When I was in Santa Cruz a year ago, I remember XEPE was by far the loudest distant station on the dial at night, stronger than KCBS and even KGO only 60 miles to the north.
 
XEPE operates w/10kw, day and night. They use a 2 tower site that's supposed to reduce the easterly night power 10db,
to around 1kw. From a Phoenix location, and here in the San Diego area, I have never detected the required signal
drop in the eastern direction at sunset, using both S-metered radios, and a 4440 Spectrum analyzer. But, nearby 1630
XEUT (1 1/2 miles from XEPE) does. Draw the obvious conclusion.
"Hardcore DX" website reports XEPE reception from Finland ,Sweden and other areas, some DX antennas being 1,000 meters
or so in length. Those countries are in the major lobe direction of XEPE. Co-station XEPRS 1090 has also been received there.
 
Big 121 said:
From a Phoenix location, and here in the San Diego area, I have never detected the required signal drop in the eastern direction at sunset

Daytime operation in Mexico is regarded as 6AM to 8PM local time year round, if that makes any difference.
 
Even though it's sort of cheating, I'd love to take a trip up to Northern Finland in -30 C weather, around January or February. Look out KIXI, you're getting a European listener... :D

-crainbe
 
Nice going gar. I've tried to get XEPE from about 70 mi S of Tampa but nothing so far. Perseverance pays off.
 
jd said:
Big 121 said:
From a Phoenix location, and here in the San Diego area, I have never detected the required signal drop in the eastern direction at sunset

Daytime operation in Mexico is regarded as 6AM to 8PM local time year round, if that makes any difference.

Small correction... 6 AM to 7 PM local time.
 
vibe said:
Nice going gar. I've tried to get XEPE from about 70 mi S of Tampa but nothing so far. Perseverance pays off.

If you have the time, you should try before KNVS changes format because XEPE will be a lot harder to pick out then.

Since I've listened to KVNS so much at night, it's mostly just that and WJCC but there have been many times where I've heard what sounds like a sports station in the background and it's probably been XEPE all along.

Half the skip distance from San Diego to here is the Gulf, so I think that makes a big difference and XEPE is much less likely to be heard the same distance in the midwest.

Daytime operation in Mexico is regarded as 6AM to 8PM local time year round, if that makes any difference.

Well, I started to hear it before 11pm my time and the signal seemed the same sfter 11 too which would be 8pm their time.
 
gar fla said:
vibe said:
Nice going gar. I've tried to get XEPE from about 70 mi S of Tampa but nothing so far. Perseverance pays off.

If you have the time, you should try before KNVS changes format because XEPE will be a lot harder to pick out then.

Since I've listened to KVNS so much at night, it's mostly just that and WJCC but there have been many times where I've heard what sounds like a sports station in the background and it's probably been XEPE all along.

Half the skip distance from San Diego to here is the Gulf, so I think that makes a big difference and XEPE is much less likely to be heard the same distance in the midwest.

Daytime operation in Mexico is regarded as 6AM to 8PM local time year round, if that makes any difference.

Well, I started to hear it before 11pm my time and the signal seemed the same sfter 11 too which would be 8pm their time.

XEPE puts a pretty good signal into Hawaii--the best of all X banders from my experience several years ago.
 
Next to try gar, is these stations.

1640 KDIA Vallejo, CA (Religion)
1650 KFOX Torrance, CA (Korean)
1670 KHPY Moreno Valley, CA (Spanish Religion).

All three are in my logs.

For me, I've gotten these stations on the X-Band. Not counting 1610.

1620-KYIZ, KSMH.
1630-XEUT, KRND
1640-KDZR, KDIA, KBJA
1650-KFOX, KBJD, a few TIS stations
1660-KTIQ, KXOL
1670-KNRO, KHPY
1680-KNTS, KGED
1690-KFSG, KDDZ
1700-XEPE, KVNS, the TIS from Issaquah, WA

Still need a whole ton of X-Banders. I think my next good choice is KCJJ, KCNZ, KQWB or WTDY. I did hear what I think was Sports one night on 1650, 99% sure it was KCNZ but I didn't get any ID. Also weak EE music one night on 1630 likely KCJJ-IA.

-crainbebo
 
Next to try gar, is these stations.

1640 KDIA Vallejo, CA (Religion)
1650 KFOX Torrance, CA (Korean)
1670 KHPY Moreno Valley, CA (Spanish Religion).


I've tried for them a little in the past but not with a very concerted effort because I figured the directional signals would make it impossible but now I can try again.

If I ever got the one from Vallejo, that would be my best distance record for AM from here in Florida.

My all time record is still KFI from south Jersey (2,395 miles) for a couple of minutes back in the winter of 77-78. Never heard it there before or since that one amazing night.

Of course today, that would be impossible with the local on 640.
 
crainbebo said:
Next to try gar, is these stations.

1640 KDIA Vallejo, CA (Religion)
1650 KFOX Torrance, CA (Korean)
1670 KHPY Moreno Valley, CA (Spanish Religion).

All three are in my logs.

For me, I've gotten these stations on the X-Band. Not counting 1610.

1620-KYIZ, KSMH.
1630-XEUT, KRND
1640-KDZR, KDIA, KBJA
1650-KFOX, KBJD, a few TIS stations
1660-KTIQ, KXOL
1670-KNRO, KHPY
1680-KNTS, KGED
1690-KFSG, KDDZ
1700-XEPE, KVNS, the TIS from Issaquah, WA

Still need a whole ton of X-Banders. I think my next good choice is KCJJ, KCNZ, KQWB or WTDY. I did hear what I think was Sports one night on 1650, 99% sure it was KCNZ but I didn't get any ID. Also weak EE music one night on 1630 likely KCJJ-IA.

-crainbebo

I got KDIA here in the Chicago area in the early days of the X band--1996. Too crowded to hear it here now.
Both KDIA & KHPY can be heard in Hawaii. I logged them both in 2010.
 
When's KVNS flipping to sports?

1700 tonight along the Gulf of Mexico in Alabama was a jumble. Usually it's fairly decent with the oldies since I've bothered to start checking. All I was able to clearly discern was speech programming, but it wasn't clear enough to tell if it was sports or talk or something else. Definitely English, though. I'm wondering if XEPE was strong around here and fighting it out with KVNS or some other station.
 
At 10PM Central time, KVNS was airing Fox Sports.
 
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