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Not surprising. Savage is a vitriolic buffoon.
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ABQTom
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I mentioned the Savage's existing black list in this post - link below.
Air America also has a black list. Why any program director would program either Air America or Savage in Nov 2007 I have no idea, considering that there are fewer and fewer advertisers providing the funding for their station's syndicated lineup. Given Air America's status with a PD mysteriously dissapearing and continuing financial issues, I'd immediately cancel all contracts with Air America hosts, and go with more traditional n/t hosts like Peter B. Collins, Bill Press, Big Ed, Alan Colmes, Jay Diamond, and Doug Basham/Lydia Cornell.
It's unusual that the Masters can't get Savage and his anti-Muslim comments under control. Roy Masters has all his tapes and books and why doesn't he send them free of charge to Michael? I guess Savage needs to go back to Fiji and get some Kava root extract to calm down. Or, the Organic Wine Company I think is near San Rafael, CA, right? Maybe Savage is taking the wrong chemotype of Kava? At least when Jerry Doyle expresses some of the same opinions as Savage, he doesn't use hate speech and is listenable w/ a calm voice. Does Doyle have a black list or are the advertisers not listening?
Programs either on the far left or far right that don't allow opposing viewpoints are just too controversial and don't belong on the radio. If it's too agenda driven it's not good radio - See Jay Marvin's comments below in the string about the AAR PD leaving.
But that's just my view apparently most progressive talk PD's don't see it this way, as they prefer Randi Rhodes and Rachel Maddow over Peter B Collins in the same time slot, and re-runs of various air america hosts instead of Alan Colmes live at 7p PT.
Existing Savage black list:
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,85950.msg648217.html#msg648217
Air America also has a black list. Why any program director would program either Air America or Savage in Nov 2007 I have no idea, considering that there are fewer and fewer advertisers providing the funding for their station's syndicated lineup. Given Air America's status with a PD mysteriously dissapearing and continuing financial issues, I'd immediately cancel all contracts with Air America hosts, and go with more traditional n/t hosts like Peter B. Collins, Bill Press, Big Ed, Alan Colmes, Jay Diamond, and Doug Basham/Lydia Cornell.
It's unusual that the Masters can't get Savage and his anti-Muslim comments under control. Roy Masters has all his tapes and books and why doesn't he send them free of charge to Michael? I guess Savage needs to go back to Fiji and get some Kava root extract to calm down. Or, the Organic Wine Company I think is near San Rafael, CA, right? Maybe Savage is taking the wrong chemotype of Kava? At least when Jerry Doyle expresses some of the same opinions as Savage, he doesn't use hate speech and is listenable w/ a calm voice. Does Doyle have a black list or are the advertisers not listening?
Programs either on the far left or far right that don't allow opposing viewpoints are just too controversial and don't belong on the radio. If it's too agenda driven it's not good radio - See Jay Marvin's comments below in the string about the AAR PD leaving.
But that's just my view apparently most progressive talk PD's don't see it this way, as they prefer Randi Rhodes and Rachel Maddow over Peter B Collins in the same time slot, and re-runs of various air america hosts instead of Alan Colmes live at 7p PT.
Existing Savage black list:
http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,85950.msg648217.html#msg648217
I've never even heard AT&T and Wal-mart on Savage. Were they in select markets?
ABQ...
A smart program director would sign Savage for his station in Nov 2007 for several reasons, the most important of which, he's entertaining! Most of those you listed are a total snore.
Second, he has the right to say what he does as much as Loius Farakahn does! You do not have to agree with everything. I don't.
Third, he makes MONEY for the local station and network.
Fourth, he gets ratings!
A smart program director would sign Savage for his station in Nov 2007 for several reasons, the most important of which, he's entertaining! Most of those you listed are a total snore.
Second, he has the right to say what he does as much as Loius Farakahn does! You do not have to agree with everything. I don't.
Third, he makes MONEY for the local station and network.
Fourth, he gets ratings!
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ABQTom
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amfmsw said:ABQ...
A smart program director would sign Savage for his station in Nov 2007 for several reasons, the most important of which, he's entertaining! Most of those you listed are a total snore.
Second, he has the right to say what he does as much as Loius Farakahn does! You do not have to agree with everything. I don't.
Third, he makes MONEY for the local station and network.
Fourth, he gets ratings!
However, an ethical program director, who wants to operate his station to serve the local community would NEVER put Savage on the air because he's a loose canon when it comes to attacks on gays, Muslims, Hispanics, and others.
How this sort of Hate Talk can be "entertaining" (as you mention, above, that he is) I have absolutely no idea where you are coming from.
What's really ashame is that Bruce Williams, who operates his program with a high degree of professionalism and integrity, has been displaced by Savage (in the same time slot), via program directors with a corporate far-right wing ideological agenda (i.e. ABC/Citadel).
ABQ,
You can "ethical" your station into bankruptcy court. And I think any community is best served by balance. Savage has a point of view, so does Lionel on AA. If you company airs both, that's ethical. Sort of a self policed "fairness doctrine". And I aslo think the use of the term "hate talk" is woefully misused here. I think much of what I hear on AA is spiteful, half-truthed and hateful of the President and his policies. Limbaugh is guilty of doing the same when speaking about the Dems.
But it's what makes America great! And yes, I think Savage could tame down his phrasing to a more civil level to make the same point, but it's his right to say it. And your's not to agree or listen at all!
You can "ethical" your station into bankruptcy court. And I think any community is best served by balance. Savage has a point of view, so does Lionel on AA. If you company airs both, that's ethical. Sort of a self policed "fairness doctrine". And I aslo think the use of the term "hate talk" is woefully misused here. I think much of what I hear on AA is spiteful, half-truthed and hateful of the President and his policies. Limbaugh is guilty of doing the same when speaking about the Dems.
But it's what makes America great! And yes, I think Savage could tame down his phrasing to a more civil level to make the same point, but it's his right to say it. And your's not to agree or listen at all!
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ABQTom
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amfmsw said:""""""Savage has a point of view, so does Lionel on AA. If you company airs both, that's ethical. Sort of a self policed "fairness doctrine". And I aslo think the use of the term "hate talk" is woefully misused here. I think much of what I hear on AA is spiteful, half-truthed and hateful of the President and his policies. Limbaugh is guilty of doing the same when speaking about the Dems."""""
I agree, except for Hartmann, Air America is too preachy in their criticisms of Bush, and other syndicated liberal hosts are better, like Colmes, Collins, Cornell, Basham, Diamond, Miller, Malloy, Press, Schultz.
""""""""""And yes, I think Savage could tame down his phrasing to a more civil level to make the same point, but it's his right to say it. """""
But if I was a PD I would never put a bully like Savage on my station. Just like if I was a parent and my son was accused of bullying a minority group then I would have no choice but to punish him.
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mred
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Savage son Russ Weiner is involved with the rockstar energy drink company. Savage introducted his son to the man who started skky vodka and many other sucessful ventures, who invested seed money with the savage son. Rockstar, was also the first large energy drink to compete with red bull (owner of red bull, also a billionaire).
If you look at what Quaker Oats paid for Snapple, you know that rockstar is worth millions if not billions. Son russ gave the old man a Lambergini a while back. I bet Savage has a piece of the action, too along with Coke. So, Savage has the bucks, so he dosn't have to worry.
If you look at what Quaker Oats paid for Snapple, you know that rockstar is worth millions if not billions. Son russ gave the old man a Lambergini a while back. I bet Savage has a piece of the action, too along with Coke. So, Savage has the bucks, so he dosn't have to worry.
I understand Savage is now suing CAIR. Will be interesting.
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Gnarlodious
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I don't think CAIR stands a chance, Savage has a valid point with Free Speech being a constitutional right, which he seems all to eager to prove. He seems to think his victory will be the Rosa Parks moment of the American right, but he is probably delusional.
Michael Savage's main motivation in life is to drive wedges between groups. Unfortunately, when he is obsessing his show turns to crap so I just turn it off.
Michael Savage's main motivation in life is to drive wedges between groups. Unfortunately, when he is obsessing his show turns to crap so I just turn it off.
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ABQTom
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Sorry to hear that. Rockstar is MY FAVORITE energy drink. It's 60 percent juice and doesn't have an artificial chemical taste like the others. I guess I'll have to have to boycott it during my long drives between New Mexico and Nevada..............................mred said:Savage son Russ Weiner is involved with the rockstar energy drink company.
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chuckydoll
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This right-wing thug is going after CAIR with a SLAPP suit. That's the kind of lawsuit used to shut critics up.
In his court filings Savage branded CAIR as a "terrorist" outfit. If anything that's enough to have his suit thrown out and CAIR to countersue -- for malice.
Gnarlodious said:I don't think CAIR stands a chance, Savage has a valid point with Free Speech being a constitutional right, which he seems all to eager to prove.
In his court filings Savage branded CAIR as a "terrorist" outfit. If anything that's enough to have his suit thrown out and CAIR to countersue -- for malice.
It would be if CAIR didn't have some highly questionable monetary contributions in their past, but the sad fact is, they do.
Here's the deal: Savage is entirely wrong for the reason he's launching this lawsuit. He claims that the comments posted on the CAIR web site were taken out of context when, in fact, they were not. Additionally, he claims he's never made blanket comments about Islam when, in fact, he has on numerous occasions. I know, I've heard them (not by choice, either). He's not launching this suit because CAIR illegally used his material, he's launching it because he knows what CAIR highlighted on their web site will ultimately tarnish what little good reputation he still has. While he will win the suit based on the legality of CAIR using his material without permission, I have no doubt the judge will make it clear to him that that's the only reason why he's winning, and not because anyone is looking out for his reputation. Though, of course, I somehow doubt that will deter him from believing that it was an overall victory.
CAIR, on the other hand, while they've absolutely proven Savage to be the vitriolic jerk he is, did it in a classic propagandist maneuver. They used an extremists words against him, and in so doing, have made it look like that's the way all conservatives feel, whether that's what they claimed on their web site or not. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Now I'm not going so far as to say for certain that they're a terrorist front group (though I certainly can't say the thought hasn't crossed my mind), but this is exactly the type of propaganda terrorists have used in the past and continue to use today to rally more people to their cause. Of course, politicians do it too, so that can't be taken as a sure-fire way to tell that CAIR is linked to terrorism. But it damn sure doesn't say anything good about them.
Here's the deal: Savage is entirely wrong for the reason he's launching this lawsuit. He claims that the comments posted on the CAIR web site were taken out of context when, in fact, they were not. Additionally, he claims he's never made blanket comments about Islam when, in fact, he has on numerous occasions. I know, I've heard them (not by choice, either). He's not launching this suit because CAIR illegally used his material, he's launching it because he knows what CAIR highlighted on their web site will ultimately tarnish what little good reputation he still has. While he will win the suit based on the legality of CAIR using his material without permission, I have no doubt the judge will make it clear to him that that's the only reason why he's winning, and not because anyone is looking out for his reputation. Though, of course, I somehow doubt that will deter him from believing that it was an overall victory.
CAIR, on the other hand, while they've absolutely proven Savage to be the vitriolic jerk he is, did it in a classic propagandist maneuver. They used an extremists words against him, and in so doing, have made it look like that's the way all conservatives feel, whether that's what they claimed on their web site or not. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Now I'm not going so far as to say for certain that they're a terrorist front group (though I certainly can't say the thought hasn't crossed my mind), but this is exactly the type of propaganda terrorists have used in the past and continue to use today to rally more people to their cause. Of course, politicians do it too, so that can't be taken as a sure-fire way to tell that CAIR is linked to terrorism. But it damn sure doesn't say anything good about them.
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chuckydoll
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Update: Savage v. CAIR looks shaky
The judge hearing the case has tentatively decided to throw out his lawsuit against CAIR.
We also learn that a third major advertiser (Sears) has pulled its ads off stations that air "Savage Nation".
The judge hearing the case has tentatively decided to throw out his lawsuit against CAIR.
We also learn that a third major advertiser (Sears) has pulled its ads off stations that air "Savage Nation".
I never understood his whole lawsuit approach. I mean, you think you've been wronged, and want to take someone to court fine, but hitting up listeners for donations so HE isn't out of pocket for playing lawsuit lottery?? I mean, if he does win or get a settlement, would I see some of that money after "donating to the cause?" Kinda doubt it.
I think all Savage is trying to do is get them to court so they are forced to divulge where they get their funding which has been a big question mark up to now and CAIR has weaseled out of it one way or another. I expect Savage to appeal so this will not be over for some time.
Micheal "Weiner" Savage lost about 87% of his advertisers. Plus Citidel is loosing money. How can that be successful. I wonder how he gets ratings? The station that carries his show in Columbus is in dead last. * to 0.6 is the ratings for WYTS only radio. He spews hate speech period. He hates people who are not pure breed. This is coming from a Jewish person. I have two nephews who have a African America father. Only racist cranks listen to his show.
Jimme said:If Savage is so bad, why is there never a boycott of stations presenting Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson? Aren't their comments just as racist?
A lack of evidence and a lack of platform.
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