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2 Major Market Oldies Stations (almost) Simultaneously Got JACKed
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KMRichards
Guest
> New York's WCBS-FM 101.1 and Chicago's WJMK 104.3 both
> flipped to Jack at 5PM today.
We've had a discussion on the Programming board (another one that I moderate) lately about what the potential pitfalls are to making the Jack format sustain for a long period of time.
If, for whatever reason, this format doesn't have longevity, Infinity is going to have major problems down the road, similar to when predecessor CBS flipped mellow rock KNX-FM to top-40 KKHR two decades ago, only to have it bomb in less than two years and having to reinstate the old format (but not have it regain any of its former success, because they ran the audience off).
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> flipped to Jack at 5PM today.
We've had a discussion on the Programming board (another one that I moderate) lately about what the potential pitfalls are to making the Jack format sustain for a long period of time.
If, for whatever reason, this format doesn't have longevity, Infinity is going to have major problems down the road, similar to when predecessor CBS flipped mellow rock KNX-FM to top-40 KKHR two decades ago, only to have it bomb in less than two years and having to reinstate the old format (but not have it regain any of its former success, because they ran the audience off).
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Les
Guest
> We've had a discussion on the Programming board (another one
> that I moderate) lately about what the potential pitfalls
> are to making the Jack format sustain for a long period of
> time.
No JACK station within earshot of where I sit. Based on the
various discussions on several boards I have come to believe
that this basic format came around once before, around 1966.
At the time it was called "Demand Radio" (Music on demand).
If anything, the music latitude was a little greater, though
that may have had to do with the history of popular music
during the encompassed allowable time span.
Enjoyed rapid success in several cities but was pretty much
dead is a little under a year in some, a little over in others.
The listener participation showed me something interesting
but I can't say whether it would apply today:
There initially as a broad-base of interest in "recommending"
music; multiple age groups. But it tended to narrow as time
went along, skewing progressively older. I believe the initial
older particpants were more tolerant of music requested by the
younger element than were the younger of the older. So the
younger gently drifted away.
So maybe I'm misjudging "JACK" but wonder how others who have
been around for more than two or three format cycles feel....<P ID="signature">______________
Due to underwhelming popular demand...</P>
> that I moderate) lately about what the potential pitfalls
> are to making the Jack format sustain for a long period of
> time.
No JACK station within earshot of where I sit. Based on the
various discussions on several boards I have come to believe
that this basic format came around once before, around 1966.
At the time it was called "Demand Radio" (Music on demand).
If anything, the music latitude was a little greater, though
that may have had to do with the history of popular music
during the encompassed allowable time span.
Enjoyed rapid success in several cities but was pretty much
dead is a little under a year in some, a little over in others.
The listener participation showed me something interesting
but I can't say whether it would apply today:
There initially as a broad-base of interest in "recommending"
music; multiple age groups. But it tended to narrow as time
went along, skewing progressively older. I believe the initial
older particpants were more tolerant of music requested by the
younger element than were the younger of the older. So the
younger gently drifted away.
So maybe I'm misjudging "JACK" but wonder how others who have
been around for more than two or three format cycles feel....<P ID="signature">______________
NY Post article on WCBS-FM
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/47709.htm
To access the article you can register (free) at nypost.com or try to get a password from BugMeNot
excerpt:
It was hit the road, Jack, for oldies fans who listen to WCBS-FM radio after the station yesterday ended 33 years of playing rock classics and abruptly axed legendary DJs Cousin Brucie, Harry Harrison and Bill Brown.
Site for the new Jack, with a link to the old format on a webstream:
http://ilikejack.com/info/about.shtml
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/47709.htm
To access the article you can register (free) at nypost.com or try to get a password from BugMeNot
excerpt:
It was hit the road, Jack, for oldies fans who listen to WCBS-FM radio after the station yesterday ended 33 years of playing rock classics and abruptly axed legendary DJs Cousin Brucie, Harry Harrison and Bill Brown.
Site for the new Jack, with a link to the old format on a webstream:
http://ilikejack.com/info/about.shtml
Re: NY Post article on WCBS-FM
I think Jack's first song should have been, "My Name Is Jack," by Manfred Mann. And if you know that song, then you will know why.
> http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/47709.htm
>
> To access the article you can register (free) at nypost.com
> or try to get a password from BugMeNot
>
> excerpt:
> It was hit the road, Jack, for oldies fans who listen to
> WCBS-FM radio after the station yesterday ended 33 years of
> playing rock classics and abruptly axed legendary DJs Cousin
> Brucie, Harry Harrison and Bill Brown.
>
> Site for the new Jack, with a link to the old format on a
> webstream:
> http://ilikejack.com/info/about.shtml
>
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I think Jack's first song should have been, "My Name Is Jack," by Manfred Mann. And if you know that song, then you will know why.
> http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/47709.htm
>
> To access the article you can register (free) at nypost.com
> or try to get a password from BugMeNot
>
> excerpt:
> It was hit the road, Jack, for oldies fans who listen to
> WCBS-FM radio after the station yesterday ended 33 years of
> playing rock classics and abruptly axed legendary DJs Cousin
> Brucie, Harry Harrison and Bill Brown.
>
> Site for the new Jack, with a link to the old format on a
> webstream:
> http://ilikejack.com/info/about.shtml
>
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[email protected]</P>
Re: NY Post article on WCBS-FM
> I think Jack's first song should have been, "My Name Is
> Jack," by Manfred Mann. And if you know that song, then you
> will know why.
My name is Jack. I live in the back. Of the Greta Garbo home for
wayward boys and girls.
yup, I know the song; was on a best-of album I once had.
> I think Jack's first song should have been, "My Name Is
> Jack," by Manfred Mann. And if you know that song, then you
> will know why.
My name is Jack. I live in the back. Of the Greta Garbo home for
wayward boys and girls.
yup, I know the song; was on a best-of album I once had.
D
Darrel
Guest
Re: NY Post article on WCBS-FM
> http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/47709.htm
>
> To access the article you can register (free) at nypost.com
> or try to get a password from BugMeNot
>
> excerpt:
> It was hit the road, Jack, for oldies fans who listen to
> WCBS-FM radio after the station yesterday ended 33 years of
> playing rock classics and abruptly axed legendary DJs Cousin
> Brucie, Harry Harrison and Bill Brown.
>
> Site for the new Jack, with a link to the old format on a
> webstream:
> http://ilikejack.com/info/about.shtml
Here's the site for Chicago's new Jack:
http://www.iknowjackfm.com
Plus a story from the Chicago Sun-Times' Robert Feder about the flip:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/feder/cst-fin-feder04.html
BTW, Just like the New York move to Jack, Chicago's Jack website is preserving the oldies format through an online stream (Feder makes note of it in his article). I recall 1050 CHUM in Toronto did the very same thing in 2001; when the station dropped oldies for the ill-fated venture with sports/talk (The Team), they moved the oldies format to the 1050chum.com website full-time. What CHUM did then, and what Infinity has done now, seems like a case of having their cake and eating it too--making a move they feel will improve their over-the-air signals' listenership/demographics, but soothing upset oldies fans with an online stream. But I imagine the fans might reject Infinity's stream and move to another signal that still airs oldies (such as Real Oldies 1690 in Chicago or B-103 on Long Island).
> http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/47709.htm
>
> To access the article you can register (free) at nypost.com
> or try to get a password from BugMeNot
>
> excerpt:
> It was hit the road, Jack, for oldies fans who listen to
> WCBS-FM radio after the station yesterday ended 33 years of
> playing rock classics and abruptly axed legendary DJs Cousin
> Brucie, Harry Harrison and Bill Brown.
>
> Site for the new Jack, with a link to the old format on a
> webstream:
> http://ilikejack.com/info/about.shtml
Here's the site for Chicago's new Jack:
http://www.iknowjackfm.com
Plus a story from the Chicago Sun-Times' Robert Feder about the flip:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/feder/cst-fin-feder04.html
BTW, Just like the New York move to Jack, Chicago's Jack website is preserving the oldies format through an online stream (Feder makes note of it in his article). I recall 1050 CHUM in Toronto did the very same thing in 2001; when the station dropped oldies for the ill-fated venture with sports/talk (The Team), they moved the oldies format to the 1050chum.com website full-time. What CHUM did then, and what Infinity has done now, seems like a case of having their cake and eating it too--making a move they feel will improve their over-the-air signals' listenership/demographics, but soothing upset oldies fans with an online stream. But I imagine the fans might reject Infinity's stream and move to another signal that still airs oldies (such as Real Oldies 1690 in Chicago or B-103 on Long Island).
O
OldiesCat
Guest
nah
Forget it- "Real Oldies" is a bust and is WAY too old sounding for today's
typical Oldies listener.
> But I imagine the fans might reject
> Infinity's stream and move to another signal that still airs
> oldies (such as Real Oldies 1690 in Chicago or B-103 on Long
> Island).
>
Forget it- "Real Oldies" is a bust and is WAY too old sounding for today's
typical Oldies listener.
> But I imagine the fans might reject
> Infinity's stream and move to another signal that still airs
> oldies (such as Real Oldies 1690 in Chicago or B-103 on Long
> Island).
>
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