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2 NY Pirate stations get fines

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rapking

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Two New york pirate stations ( 96.5 The Bronx,and 88.1 FM Hollis Queens) get 10,000 fines each from FCC for running unlicesed FM stations .
 
Something is telling me that other pirates are taking notice of this. For the first time in AGES in The Bronx, I was able to tune in to K-104 (WSPK) in Poughkeepsie! Traditionally, K-104 had always been a very powerful station, but with these dang pirates, they would always hog up 104.7.
 
There was a time when I was somewhat enamored by Pirates. I liked to hear any signal that was obscure. For instance, a broadcast off the Coast by a group guys who were motivated beyond any drive I could imagine. Who do you know who buys a boat, broadcast technology, and whatever else is needed to indulge in a hobby that seems antiquated? Because I was a DXer, I suppose Pirates peaked my curiosity. There are too many ways to suffer throu Now, I understand the complaints. Pirates made listening to Sirius on frequencies that were "unoccupied," forced me to seek unoccupied frequencies while a Rabbi would scream through my radio, and there's alwayd Caribean music and others. Lately I made some adjustments that make my satellite listening almost impeccable. The fine seems steep, yet punishment stops cuurent Pirates and scares future broadcasters. A society without laws ceases to have order and chaos ensues as a result. Compromise allows people to live peacefully in close quarters, like NYC. Sure this sounds dramatic, but what is important to me, might be meaningless to you. If we only honor the laws we like, then there is no longer anything more than chaos.
 
Tony Santiago said:
Something is telling me that other pirates are taking notice of this. For the first time in AGES in The Bronx, I was able to tune in to K-104 (WSPK) in Poughkeepsie! Traditionally, K-104 had always been a very powerful station, but with these dang pirates, they would always hog up 104.7.

Indeed K104 has been coming in quite well even where I am in Queens, for the first time in a while. I'd venture to bet that will be temporary, at best, however. In my view the pirates aren't really letting up at all. There's a powerful one parked next to WNYE on 91.3 and a couple of new ones with really strong signals throughout much of Queens on 89.7 and 90.1 which sprouted up recently. 106.9 from the Bronx is going strong as well, and I was receiving it quite clearly last week when, for a few moments, Lite FM's signal was off the air. 94.5 and 95.9 from the Bronx have killer signals in Queens. Many of the Brooklyn pirates, like 95.1, are still going strong,
 
They should really confiscate the equipment of pirates when they are caught. These people can webcast instead of ruining reception of licensed stations.


Bruce
 
From Jersey City I can hear a powerful pirate station on 107.9. I'm not sure if that's from NY or NJ. Also there is usually one on 99.9 and sometimes 96.7
 
question for you all,
what is the status on the 103.1 Translator in Stamford which is supposed to relay 96.3 from NYC. it seems to be relaying 101.9 WRXP I wish I could make this an LP-FM station from basically a station thats already there. what are the rules on that?
 
Jamie said:
I wish I could make this an LP-FM station from basically a station thats already there. what are the rules on that?

Until the LPFM rules are changed, zero chance. The engineers will tell you it's fine, but until the FCC tells the NAB to get lost, it won't happen.
 
rapking said:
Two New york pirate stations ( 96.5 The Bronx,and 88.1 FM Hollis Queens) get 10,000 fines each from FCC for running unlicesed FM stations .

10,000 fines? That's a lot of fines :)
 
The Law

The laws of the FCC are very very weak at that.

What they need to do is not only arrest the pirates, but confiscate the equipment and destroy it.

I believe the equipment can be purchased through the internet or some connection.

Why are the pirates sprouting anyway? Is there something I dont know about?

Your input please.
 
The laws aren't weak at all. The enforcement is weak. Smashing the equipment won't solve anything, and neither would arresting the pirates. The fines certainly don't seem to be stopping them.

As for why the pirates are sprouting...simple. They're targeting communities that are not being targeted by legal radio stations. I'm not saying that they are justified in doing so, but these stations aren't exactly competing with Z100 or Lite FM. Most pirates fall into either the Reggae/Caribbean category, or the religious (often Spanish language religious) categories.
 
The FCC does take away equipment. When friends of mine were raided 20 years ago the agents didn't even bother unplugging the units, the literaly cut the cords or ripped the units out of the walls. The thing is that it's all easily replacable for today's well funded pirates. In fact, a $10,000 fine is just the cost of doing business for some of these guys. It's a drop in the bucket for a station that's on 24/7, running commercials and holding concert events. Think about it.

jp
 
Not just that, but it is VERY easy and not too expensive to find equipment online and for not too much money. All these pirates need to do is sell a couple of ads (cash only, of course) and voila, they've got money for a new transmitter. Couple that with the fact that many of these pirates broadcast from very tall apartment buildings in the Bronx or Brooklyn and you have pirate stations that cover a sizable amount of the city.
 
Zach said:
What are the chances the FCC will ever collect on those fines?

The pirates up in NY seem to be like roaches - whack one and two more take its place.
I tend to consider most commercial radio stations as roaches as well. They serve very little purpose but to be an annoyance. I don’t agree with the pirates that interfere with other radio stations as you can always find a dial somewhere in every major city where you can broadcast without much interference of others. More importantly, if these pirates were business savvy and not just hobbyist, they should be able to pay a measly 10K fine with no problems. I love pirate stations; they represent the best of radio today. I say more pirate stations and less commercial. I was once a big fan of college radio as well, but for the most part, the career centers at most of these colleges and universities have hijacked the college stations and turned them into production lines to spit out the next generation of morons for today’s commercial stations.
 
neo11 said:
As for why the pirates are sprouting...simple. They're targeting communities that are not being targeted by legal radio stations. I'm not saying that they are justified in doing so, but these stations aren't exactly competing with Z100 or Lite FM. Most pirates fall into either the Reggae/Caribbean category, or the religious (often Spanish language religious) categories.


Actually, that's exactly what your saying. While the other stations superserve the classic rock fan, for instance, these less-monied demos have no service.

One signal could make money off of the underserved demos. Some money is still money.
 
HoodFiga said:
I don’t agree with the pirates that interfere with other radio stations as you can always find a dial somewhere in every major city where you can broadcast without much interference of others.

What are you smoking? There is no such animal.

Besides, they're breaking the law. There's a reason there's a licensing procedure. Anyone who knows anything about radio history knows that before the Federal Radio Commission there was pure chaos on the dial. And that was in a day when you had to be a huge corporation to be able to afford the facilities.

Advocating piracy is just incredibly stupid.
 
I don't listen to any Pirate station at all. I tuned to most of the station that are running by the Pirates who programmed Caribbean music as well a reggae. I'm not a Reggae fan at all. I do recall back in the 80's, there was a Pirate station called WHOT where Hank & Jim worked years ago playing oldies with a mix of newer songs. I knew that WHOT at 91.5 was a station in Brooklyn which was covered by WNYE, which is a station usually ran NPR and public affairs programming. That was what had happened since WHOT got canned back in 1989.

I was 10 years old, but I don't tuned in to that station back then. They played oldies which was a mockery of CBS-FM.

Look what happened today, all of these hackers running a Pirate station playing too much garbage like reggae and caribbean songs. These people got busted for that reason, maybe they should stop programming Pirates until they will all go to jail to run an unlicensed FM station. I tried to avoid it at all costs. I don't listened to WHOT back then long before I discovered Hank Hayes on the internet and listened to old WHOT airchecks from the Pete Sayek collection. I found these right here.

http://whot.podomatic.com/
 
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