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20 years on -- remembering WGBS as a talker

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FloridaBear1776

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Not an opportune time to post this with Wilma's aftermath, nonetheless...

I'm a bit fuzzy on the date, but it was about 20 years ago this month that the call letters WGBS disappeared from South Florida airwaves. I realize a lot of people have memories of WGBS' music format, but hardly anyone recalls WGBS' brief stint as a talker from 1983 to 1985.

"WGBS 710 News" was certainly well-produced. It had a bouncy jingle package, something rivals WNWS and WINZ couldn't boast at the time. Perhaps WIOD had one, I can't recall, but remember that they were still at least part-time a music station in the early 80s. GBS had a breezy news block presentation in drivetimes and at noon, and seemed to make an effort to cover news all over the state, not just in Miami, understandable with their 50 kW signal.

Yet WGBS never really made it as a talker. Perhaps that was because English talk had hit its zenith in Miami with the Mariel boatlift and racial disturbances in 1980, and was already sliding downhill. Maybe it was the Anglos moving out of Dade and away from 710's signal. Possibly WGBS' conversion to WAQI was the signal that began the decline of English talk in Miami to its present sorry state. But I think there were a few factors in WGBS' failure to thrive that were of its own making.

Chief among these was Jefferson-Pilot's determination to do "nice guy" talk.
They seemed to believe they were offering an alternative to the "abrasive" style led by Neil and copied by just about everyone else in the market, including Al Rantel and Steve Kane (still in their liberal phases). They never stopped to ask if anyone was looking for an alternative. Of course, Jeff-Pilot also bought WNWS after shedding 710 and, I believe, took that station into the toilet as well.

Their late-morning host, David Gold, was one of the pioneer conservative talkers, and would later enjoy a long tenure in Dallas working for Susquehanna, a company that had similar taboos about talk (except for its Miami O-and-O, WQBA). But he didn't get Miami or South Florida. The late Lee Fowler, I recall, was ops manager and sometime host.

Anyone else recall any talk hosts from GBS in this period? I think Bob Lassiter's first talk gig was a weekend slot on 710.
 
> Not an opportune time to post this with Wilma's aftermath,
> nonetheless...
>
> I'm a bit fuzzy on the date, but it was about 20 years ago
> this month that the call letters WGBS disappeared from South
> Florida airwaves. I realize a lot of people have memories of
> WGBS' music format, but hardly anyone recalls WGBS' brief
> stint as a talker from 1983 to 1985.
>
> "WGBS 710 News" was certainly well-produced. It had a bouncy
> jingle package, something rivals WNWS and WINZ couldn't
> boast at the time. Perhaps WIOD had one, I can't recall, but
> remember that they were still at least part-time a music
> station in the early 80s. GBS had a breezy news block
> presentation in drivetimes and at noon, and seemed to make
> an effort to cover news all over the state, not just in
> Miami, understandable with their 50 kW signal.
>
> Yet WGBS never really made it as a talker. Perhaps that was
> because English talk had hit its zenith in Miami with the
> Mariel boatlift and racial disturbances in 1980, and was
> already sliding downhill. Maybe it was the Anglos moving out
> of Dade and away from 710's signal. Possibly WGBS'
> conversion to WAQI was the signal that began the decline of
> English talk in Miami to its present sorry state. But I
> think there were a few factors in WGBS' failure to thrive
> that were of its own making.
>
> Chief among these was Jefferson-Pilot's determination to do
> "nice guy" talk.
> They seemed to believe they were offering an alternative to
> the "abrasive" style led by Neil and copied by just about
> everyone else in the market, including Al Rantel and Steve
> Kane (still in their liberal phases). They never stopped to
> ask if anyone was looking for an alternative. Of course,
> Jeff-Pilot also bought WNWS after shedding 710 and, I
> believe, took that station into the toilet as well.
>
> Their late-morning host, David Gold, was one of the pioneer
> conservative talkers, and would later enjoy a long tenure in
> Dallas working for Susquehanna, a company that had similar
> taboos about talk (except for its Miami O-and-O, WQBA). But
> he didn't get Miami or South Florida. The late Lee Fowler, I
> recall, was ops manager and sometime host.
>
> Anyone else recall any talk hosts from GBS in this period? I
> think Bob Lassiter's first talk gig was a weekend slot on
> 710.
>
I believe Alan Burke was there.
 
> I believe Alan Burke was there.

I was 9.....Burke did a bit called "Burke's TeleRadio"...Funny stuff!!

He would call prerecorded "Dial-A" this, and that, and he'd start ripping on how low budget the taped messages were...Some were really bad, like a "Dial A Hearing Test" where you couldn't hear any of the beeps, or a "Dial A Fable" for kids, where the kid could barely speak.

Another time he went on about "Elizabethan" biblical English, and claimed he was "Talking to God the other day, and [he] said 'Your Lordship'....and He replied with 'C'mon...You can just call me God!"
 
What I remember about WGBS was listening and recording Ron St. John in 1978 when they were "Musicradio 7000". Talk about a classic aircheck!<P ID="signature">______________

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I think of WGBS and Arnie Warren comes to mind. A real pro.


> What I remember about WGBS was listening and recording Ron
> St. John in 1978 when they were "Musicradio 7000". Talk
> about a classic aircheck!
>
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> I think of WGBS and Arnie Warren comes to mind. A real pro.
>
>
>
> > What I remember about WGBS was listening and recording Ron
>
> > St. John in 1978 when they were "Musicradio 7000". Talk
> > about a classic aircheck!
> >
>

Ugh,actually it was "Musicradio 7000 the NEW WGBS" we had to say that every damn time we mentioned the station. Try it sometime, it's a mouthful.

I was there in 1978, Lee Rodgers the PD and mid day host had gone to Storer's WJW Clevland after a bad book at WGBS. Arnie Warren was made P.D. and offered me 7p-midnight which I accepted. Arnie & Amos did mornings (and it was a real treat to see Arnie do the Amos character) Ron St John did mid days, Dale Reeves was on in the afternoon and I did evenings for a short time before Teresa Lee and I traded shifts.

I got to follow Dale for about 2 weeks before he too went to WJW. It was heaven, Dale was a pro, very funny and he was very kind to me. Dale left and Mark Denver took his place. Mark is a nice guy but it just wasn't the same.

Then a month after I got there the "Musicradio" format came in and the "WGBS plays Favorties" was out. It was a tight and very structured format and I just didn't do well with it. In addition we had to backsell every song in the sweep with artist, song title and album title. I did this so much I still remember some of the albums! My airchecks are painful to listen to.

In 1978 WGBS had 4 program directors. Not a great year for me or WGBS.

MikeM
 
Charlie Cook.

> Ugh,actually it was "Musicradio 7000 the NEW WGBS" we had
> to say that every damn time we mentioned the station. Try
> it sometime, it's a mouthful.


Wasn't that Charlie Cook's brainchild?? I thought he was the PD...Charlie was with Westwood One I think most recently, and he also was the one who took LA's legendary Rocker KHJ Country during the "Urban Cowboy" craze of '80.

From the tapes I have, there were alot of FM-type elements at the "7000" version of WGBS....Yeah, liner-isms which in 1978 was rare "We always play the full length album versions", which on AM was a distinctive trait..."We Always tell you the title and artist"...Just saying those things at that point in time was a new thing which didn't take off until the early 90s, Coast being the one to really push that when they took over 97.3 in May 90.

The interesting thing about that aircheck that I got from Matt that has you is that it has you Mike introing "Sideshow" by Blue Magic...I have an aircheck of Arnie Warren from '74 at WGBS, that, also has him announcing a contest winner and running a "FORRRR THA WINNNERRRRS...DOUBLE YOUUUU GEEE BEE ESSS!!!" Sounder, and that, coincidentally, is an intro as well, into "Sideshow".
 
Re: Charlie Cook.

> > Ugh,actually it was "Musicradio 7000 the NEW WGBS" we had
>
> > to say that every damn time we mentioned the station. Try
>
> > it sometime, it's a mouthful.
>
>
> Wasn't that Charlie Cook's brainchild??

Ha, ha as much as I'd like to blame Charlie Cook (After all he canned me! There are no hard feelings really.) he was really just the caretaker of the format. It was set up by WHN & Storer national PD Ed Salamon. My understanding a lot of this ideas could have come from Bob Pittman, he and Ed were friends and talked a lot. Bob had been with NBC and moved to MTV I believe.

You have a recording of me? Do everyone a favor and burn it! I didn't do my best work at WGBS, it just wasn't a good fit. After WGBS let me go I did fill in work at WQAM. I sounded much better there, worked for Tom Birch who everyone will remember from "The Birch Report" ratings. The WQAM studio was much more comfortable, well laid out with everything in easy reach.

I wish I could have been around when they rebuilt the WGBS studio and also moved WLYF in. Hopefully they did a better job with the layout than what was in there. It's funny I remember it all like it was yesterday but it seems like it happened to another person!
 
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