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2008 Predictions

On top of the list will be who eventually will purchase WRMM and the other two FM stations currently up for sale. Will it be a major media company or, as some hope, a group of local investors?
How long will the Wease/Entercom marriage last? There is a lot of speculation, including from yours truly, that Entercom will offer Wease far less money than he’s currently making when his contract expires. Will Wease walk out the door or accept the money offered to him? And, according to a reliable source, none of Wease’s “posse” have signed new contracts yet. I still believe a few of those individuals will meet the same fate as Dave Kane and the others recently let go.
Will WYSL’s Bob Savage win his battle against IBOC? Savage has been quoted in numerous articles as saying that WBZ interferes with WYSL’s nighttime coverage of the Rochester area by using IBOC, thus costing Savage a great deal of potential revenue . Other 50kw stations have turned off their IBOC system because it interferes with stations in other markets owned by the same company. Will CBS follow suit?
There are rumors floating around that a certain local talk show host feels he’s being pushed out of his job. It will be interesting to see if this rumor is true, or that the person in question is just being paranoid. However I do predict that there will be more on-air personal changes at this station in the new year.
 
Okay I will look into my crystal ball and see what the future bodes.

First of all I can predict, without hesitation, that Fybush will never live up to his promise to meet for lunch.

The triple FM radio stations' sale will be one of the big local media stories in 2008.
It's anyone's guess who will end up buying those stations, or if there will be format changes; which I kind of expect there will be (with the exception of WRMM.)

When it comes to IBOC I admit I am biased, not just because I work (Saturday mornings) for WYSL, but I truly see where Bob Savage has a legitimate complaint.
Even if I didn't work for Bob I would still support his efforts because that damn "hissing noise" is annoying.

As for Wease; what can I say? This scenario can work out either way. Entercom might offer him less money and he will stay on to collect a check, or he could walk and find something else. The guy certainly has made enough contacts during his years on the air that he would land on his feet. I certainly wish him the best; especially after his bout with cancer.

Otherwise I really don't expect any major changes here in Rochester radio land.
 
PREDICTIONS:

The bitter, unemployed whiners on this board will remain unemployed and will continue to complain about things because they are too incompetent or powerless to change anything.

The aforementioned people will also continue to somehow continue to think that terrestrial radio is actually a medium that anyone under 55 actually cares about any more.

Radio will continue its decline onto the swirling toilet bowl of suckiness and irrelevance (despite the pleas of the aforementioned 'aforementioned'), led by their corporate pimps and their mindless drones in management turning tricks for the shareholders. The good thing is that once the US economy finally collapses this year, they will all be living in cardboard boxes under a bridge. Preferably, a bridge in Minnesota.


~~~~aNd A hApPy NeW yEaR!!~~~~~~~~
 
Re: BlAhHbLaHh

So, I take it from your typing skills that your a satellite radio / text messaging executive?

Regards,

Reflective, Employed Whiner
 
The bitter, unemployed whiners on this board will remain unemployed and will continue to complain about things because they are too incompetent or powerless to change anything.

Walmart didn't give out a Christmas bonus again this year? Well, we could have told you that. No need to get testy, sonny.

Make it a New Years resolution to put in an application at Sears.
 
BlAhHbLaHh said:
PREDICTIONS:

The bitter, unemployed whiners on this board will remain unemployed and will continue to complain about things because they are too incompetent or powerless to change anything.

The aforementioned people will also continue to somehow continue to think that terrestrial radio is actually a medium that anyone under 55 actually cares about any more.

Radio will continue its decline onto the swirling toilet bowl of suckiness and irrelevance (despite the pleas of the aforementioned 'aforementioned'), led by their corporate pimps and their mindless drones in management turning tricks for the shareholders. The good thing is that once the US economy finally collapses this year, they will all be living in cardboard boxes under a bridge. Preferably, a bridge in Minnesota.


~~~~aNd A hApPy NeW yEaR!!~~~~~~~~

:eek: YIKES!
 
The good thing is that once the US economy finally collapses this year, they will all be living in cardboard boxes under a bridge.

I suspect you will be there too in a Whirpool refrigerator box just like the rest of us relying very heavily on that $3 transistor radio that is now your only source of entertainment & information. You can also use the radio as a distraction as you hold up your sign at the intersection "Will do radio for food".
 
In the Roman Empire, the augur would study the entrails of sacrificed animals to determin what the future held in store. Will 2008 be a gut-wrenching year in Buffalo and Rochester? Many eyes and ears in Rochester will be fixed on the newly acquired Entercom properties and the possible divestiture of the Clear Channel cluster there.

For the Flower City: Kane-O will resurface successfully and gracefully. Wease will re-up. A local surprise suitor will acquire the WRRM, The Zone & Fickle, but there will be staff cuts. There will be a format shuffle and another Country station will appear but The Bee will hold its ground.

In the Queen City of the Lakes: Eyes and ears will be on Citadel: Will the Buffalo cluster be spun? Will Mix 104 become competitive in the AC realm? Says here, "no" to the former and "yes" to the latter. The Lake will be at the top of Entercom's "to-do" list. Country? Classic Hits? Neither. Triple A is the answer. And on AM, it's the David vs. Goliath scenario as WECK makes an end around run against WBEN. The heritage news station will suffer not a scratch, but WECK will show a few skeptics that community-based AM radio can make money and be interetsing.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to grill some lamb. Souvlaki, anyone?

-9-
 
Just wanted to wish everyone (except "Mr. Blah") a healthy and happy 2008. My posts are few but I truly enjoy reading the humorous and knowledgeable posts here. As a KB kid of the 70s and a general radio listener since then I've really enjoyed the trips down memory lane. I don't want to start another KB thread, we've had plenty of those, but it was sad to read about the recent passing of Bob MacRae. I have some snippets of him on cassette and it was definitely a better era in radio.
 
Element9 said:
Element9 said:
In the Roman Empire, the augur would study the entrails of sacrificed animals to determin what the future held in store.


-9-

I don't know about the Roman Empire, but it is my understanding that cats defended the "Temples of Egypt"! Happy New Year!
 
Predictions and comments made so far are fascinating and often funny. Getting serious for a moment, here are a few things that could happen in Western NY radio in 2008...

--The Entercom spinoffs in Rochester may end up going to more than one buyer. I can see Warm 101.3 being absorbed into the local Clear Channel cluster (which I believe will be short one FM and free to fill in its hand after the conclusion of the Channel 13 spinoff) by mid-year, contingent of course on closing the TV station sale. The two lower power stations could go to separate buyers--one, probably 93.3, to a religious outfit.The other, probably 94.1, may go to a buyer who will turn it into the city's first Latino format outlet now that the Hispanic population of Rochester has reached critical mass to support a fulltime signal profitably.

--None of the established stations that don't change hands, will change formats.

--WCMF will probably be able to persuade Wease and most of his morning crew to stay on. Wease knows how the business is going--but Entercom realizes that he represents a lot of the value of the station it bought, and without him, they have a station without a signature act and a major revenue source. A compromise on a new contract that keeps him on hand for six or seven more years, while they can develop a successor when he retires, is a must. At the same time, they'll use the midday shift vacated by Dave Kane to help develop that successor, who is probably not on the station roster now but can become familiar and well liked in the city if he or she is given time to grow and become familiar to everyone.

--Speaking of Dave Kane, would anyone be surprised to hear him wind up on Warm 101.3 if it goes to a buyer who wants to keep the same format but make things a little more competitive?

--WDKX will stay strong with under-35 listeners in both city and suburb. They may look into ways to stretch their signal reach into the outlying counties. (Might they be a player for 101.3, in which case WDKX would go full class-B and 103.9 would become that Latino station I'm talking about, while staying in the Langston family portfolio?) If they don't get a big signal, they could still go the translator/repeater route. And even if neither comes to pass, they've got an indefinite hold on one of the top three spots 12+.

--In Buffalo, WBEN stays the course, WECK nibbles around its edges in the city core and inner ring burbs and makes some money in the process (assuming they follow through on their promise to program locally in the key dayparts on weekdays) and Star 102.5 adds some more news and information elements, at least in drivetime, to protect its own and WBEN's flanks. Star 102.5 will start to resemble the 1979-vintage full service adult contemporary WBEN in what it's trying to do, although of course it'll be playing the new music today's 25-54s like. But you get my drift...same philosophy Bob Wood used in programming WBEN back in the day (and he might even be asked to consult if Entercom knows what it's doing).

--WGR will continue to depend on the success of the Sabres for its own success in the all important fall, winter and spring books. They'll need to emphasize hockey until or unless the drifting Bills find a direction back to the playoffs, and reassure people that they're in Western New York for the long haul.

--WHTT will be under pressure from Citadel corporate brass to get better results--and the approach they may use is to retune its sound BACK toward the classic hits format that served it well a couple years back. The success of WCBS-FM will be very influential. IF that happens, the station will be once again 100% locally originated from 6 AM to midnight 7 days a week.

--KB may well be put on the block, changed or put on a truck out of town. Entercom has wasted too much money just using that frequency as the radio equivalent of a blocking tight end for WBEN. They have to either part with it and take the calculated risk that someone else won't make a go of it; reformat it with something other than news/talk or sports that a 35-64 audience would like (such as another stab at classic hits if WHTT doesn't change); or move the signal out of town to another market and rebuild it to go head to head with someone else's heritage talker (now possible under the FCC rules).

--Going to automation on the Lake is an admission of defeat in Entercom's attempt to go after a piece of 97 Rock (not to mention a move to avoid cutting into recently acquired WCMF in Rochester). That station would surprise me if it stayed the way it is through '08. Country won't be an option since that would compromise WBEE's dominance in the Rochester portion of its reach. Maybe they could just drift...but wouldn't a WGR simulcast generate just as much added revenue by stretching that station's reach and filling in some serious coverage gaps? I'm sure they're thinking about it and it might be their best long term bet.

--The AC battle will stay intense even if WHTT retires from the field and tries classic hits once again...I'd guess Star 102.5's two biggest advantages will be big signal and an established personality lineup.

--97 Rock and WBLK will each continue to dominate their lucrative format and demo niches.

--As to that remark at the top of this thread about a possibly paranoid talk host in Rochester--don't know who it is, but let's face it, in today's radio industry, EVERYONE who cracks a mike is just a little worried about his, and his industry's, future. That's to be expected in uncertain times like these. Hey, we're all human, and consequently just a little scared about the future whenever the future's not clear. It doesn't have to be that way, of course...stations that field a stable lineup and commit to their staffs and their listeners will ride out whatever economic storms lie ahead and come out just fine. Those that panic when things get a little dicey will find they live to regret it--as they always do. We'll see some stations panic and hurt themselves, others stay the course and prosper. Hope you're all working for one of the latter...and have a happy New Year. :)
 
Bob1370 said:
The Entercom spinoffs in Rochester may end up going to more than one buyer. I can see Warm 101.3 being absorbed into the local Clear Channel cluster (which I believe will be short one FM and free to fill in its hand after the conclusion of the Channel 13 spinoff) by mid-year, contingent of course on closing the TV station sale. The two lower power stations could go to separate buyers--one, probably 93.3, to a religious outfit.The other, probably 94.1, may go to a buyer who will turn it into the city's first Latino format outlet now that the Hispanic population of Rochester has reached critical mass to support a fulltime signal profitably.


WCMF will probably be able to persuade Wease and most of his morning crew to stay on. Wease knows how the business is going--but Entercom realizes that he represents a lot of the value of the station it bought, and without him, they have a station without a signature act and a major revenue source. A compromise on a new contract that keeps him on hand for six or seven more years, while they can develop a successor when he retires, is a must. At the same time, they'll use the midday shift vacated by Dave Kane to help develop that successor, who is probably not on the station roster now but can become familiar and well liked in the city if he or she is given time to grow and become familiar to everyone.


If I understand the terms of sale WRMM, the Zone, and Fickle must be sold as a package, not seperately; therefore your suggestion that one company might purchase just WRMM won't happen.
Regarding Wease and company, my sources told me that neither Wease or his "crew" signed new contracts last year while Kane and the other on-air talent that were let go did. Be that the case then Wease and his staff will be going into negotiations fresh. My prediction is that while Wease may stay, Entercom will cut some of Wease's "crew" in order to save money. As for a possible replacement for Wease should Levin and Entercom part company; keeping Dave Kane would have been a smart idea but instead of thinking years ahead it was the bottom line that matters the most.
 
I'd like to address some of Bob Smith's comments about the Buffalo market. I don't see any evidence that Star 102 will become the full-service equivalent of WBEN of the late '70s, early '80s era. That would mean 10 to 15 minute top of the hour newscasts during morning drive, plus five minute hourly newscasts the rest of the day. That's what WBEN did back then. I don't see that happening, especially with Star in tight competition with WJYE and WHTT. They're all music intensive stations with a few top headlines provided during the morning drive. Plus, who would provide the full service news content? I'm sure it's hard enough for the WBEN staff to keep its 24-hour engine running, without adding responsibility for a second station. Perhaps someday, it might make sense for one of the commercial station groups to introduce a full-service news and talk station to the FM band. But I don't see that happening in 2008.

Secondly, Entercom isn't going to do anything with KB. Why should it? It costs them very little money to keep the station running with the liberal talk format. And the latest Arbitron trends shows KB nearing the numbers it had with oldies. Selling it would allow another broadcaster to offer programming that could erode one of Entercom's existing properties. It's just not going to happen. The only buyer Entercom would consider for KB is a religious broadcaster, which would be a shame. Bob, I know you've long proposed as an option Entercom moving KB's frequency to Rochester. The FCC might allow it. But this kind of thing has never happened in my 40-plus years of following Buffalo radio, and I don't see it happening in 2008.

I think the Lake could be ripe for a format change in 2008, after the bloodletting last year. Bob, I like your idea of 107.7 simulcasting WGR. Or what about WBEN? Even though the audience would remain within the Entercom family, I do wonder whether its management would want to see its AM numbers decline with listeners going to 107.7. So, I think Entercom will treat the Lake like KB. 107.7 has a loyal, albeit small audience. There's probably not a lot it can do with that fringe signal that would attract a significant audience. As such, the Lake is likely to continue in 2008.

I think the most interesting story of 2008 will be what Dick Greene does with WECK. But there's ten minutes left in the Ice Bowl, so I'll be signing off now to root on the Sabres.
 
Phil, you hit the nail squarely on the head. Nobody gives two cents about hearing full service news on Star 102.5. "WBEN '78-'83" is at least 25 years old. Full service FM is a dream. The Entercom brass won't do anything that might endanger WBEN. Star seems to be doing quite nicely with the news proportioned as is.

The station of interest in the AC derby is WJYE. Much will be told when the Fall book comes out. Will "All Christmas" during the last four weeks of the Fall book save it? BTW, WHTT last week ran ads in the Buffalo News featuring pictures of the station personalities. They weren't very large, but the station deserves some credit for that move. Maybe it's an attempt to differentiate Mix from Star (which has established personalities) and WJYE.

I'm hoping WECK won't become the local radio version of the kitchen junk-drawer featuring colon blow and let's-see-what-sticks programming.

A simulcast of WGR or WBEN on 107.7 makes sense to the extent that it might cycle "younger" listeners to FM. Entercom's WWL is simulcast on an FM in New Orleans. There are differences, however. The WWL-FM signal is a full blown Class C on 105.3 and covers the market like white on rice. WWL-AM is a 50 kW blowtorch on 870. Conversely, the 107.7 signal is lacking. Still, there's something to be said for simulcasting WGR or WBEN on 107.7, which has a signal that reaches areas not solidly covered by WGR. But if such a scheme becomes a reality, don't expect the call letters to be WBEN-FM or WGR-FM. WBEN-FM is assigned to a Philly FM and WGR-FM might create confusion with WGRF. After all's said and done, The Lake will most likely plod along, belching four year old cricket and lapping water promos. Yes, it is truly different at The Lake.

Speaking of The Winter Classic, anybody notice that former WJYE jock Jay Moran was the stadium announcer? One more thing: Happy New Year to each and every one.

-MSR
 
And I would like to jump in here about Bob 1370's comments, too. Sorry Bob I just don't see 94.1 going to a Spanish format. If you break down the population of Hispanics in the market it comes to less than 6%. That would mean less than 60,000 hispanic citizens at best. Many of them would be over 55 or under 18. So you are programing to maybe 30,000 people if they cared to listen. No agency is going to spend money there. So all your income would come from what the sales dept. could sell to local businesses. I just don't see the income. Spanish programing has been tried on a couple stations as block programing. It hasn't worked . WLGZ has a Spanish language block on now Sunday night. If it pays the electric bill for the time period WLGZ is ahead.
Rochester can't support an oldies station which has a large audience, with desposable incomes but considered undesireable (supposedly) by advertisers. I don't see how any station in Rochester programing a Spanish format could make money - which is what it all about. Maybe a low powered FM or WXXI could donate one of their frequencies so it could be non commercial.
 
In the third quarter, another group owned station will be acquired by local ownership in the Buffalo market.
 
A simulcast of WGR or WBEN on 107.7 makes sense to the extent that it might cycle "younger" listeners to FM.

It doesn't seem logical that Entercom spent $10 million on an FM so that it could simulcast WBEN or WGR. Seems there's more to be gained by programming a music format on the frequency. The Lake may not be a long term format, but would a AAA format fare any better given the circumstances?
 
The Lake

Simulcasting the Sabres on The Lake might make sense. WGR's night-time pattern does not cover the market well, especially to the east. With the Sabres upcoming divorce from the Rochester Amerks, simulcasting on The Lake might be a good way to provide coverage for the fan base developed in a large area from Rochester southward.

Entercom could sell local avails on the two stations separately in order to maximize income. Current "Sabres network" spots would run on both. Entercom could drop WBTA as a Sabres affiliate, while continuing to simulcast on WROC in order to add some punch in Rochester proper.

I don't see the value in a full-time WGR simulcast. Daytime coverage on WGR is just fine throughout the metro. The same content on two stations doesn't bring in any added revenue.
 
It may be worthwhile to clarify some of the things I posted above. First of all, when I talk about a full-service version of Star 102.5 I don't mean big newsblocks in the drive times, like we had on the 1980 version of WBEN. I'm talking about shorter headline updates a couple times an hour in the drivetimes, once an hour in middays and early evenings, plus frequent weather and traffic updates as needed...actually a lot like the news schedule WKBW ran in the late 1970s. Entercom can probably do that with pretty much the staff they now have in house.

Second, I'd differ on whether or not the hispanic population is too small to support a fulltime station in Rochester. Remember, that 60,000 population figure in Monroe County is from the last census, it's almost eight years old, and the Latino population has grown significantly since then. It's the one really fast growing demo in the market, and if someone steps up to serve it now, they'll be getting in on the ground floor building a bond with a growing and loyal audience.

As to the Lake, WGR strikes me as the only station that would be helped by turning 107.7 into a simulcast. WBEN doesn't need it, because it already has, for all intents and purposes, full market coverage 24/7 because of its better night pattern. (And WBEN could conceivably bump to 10,000 watts around the clock with minimal change to its antenna plant if it felt the need to upgrade its signal.) WGR DOES need it because their owners of 66 years ago made the mistake of constructing their night pattern too tightly in order to boost signal strength north toward Toronto--a move that made a lot of sense in 1941 but works against them now.
 
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