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The first two don't sound like Freestyle to me. The Lady Gaga song is great, but just b/c it has some Breakbeat elements doesn't automatically make it Freestyle nor something a Breaks DJ would play. There's certain melodies and certain melodic splices that tend to go with Freestyle.
The second song from Chris Brown was okay, and is more in line with commercial elements taken from Miami Booty/Bass.

The third song was kinda crappy to be honest, and the vocals are rather sub par when compared to Freestyle's heavyweights.
 
CHRles,thanx for the response. As you already may know,during freestyle's prime there were two major sounds. The New York Latin Hip Hop sound (nothing to do with rap) and the Miami electro latin style.The New York sound was known for it syncopated bassline and drum beat.It was usually darker and moodier than Miami freestyle and was known for its percussion and stressed on the second and fourth beat.Itis heavy on the synth and brass horn sound,used the high hats and had to do with love gone wrong more often than not. The Lady Gaga track has just about all these elements.The Chris Brown track is sung in a r&b fashion so I can see why most people won't accept it as freestyle. But the synth brass horn sound is what gives it a freestyle touch as this is almost exclusively a freestyle trademark. The beat is Miami electro which both booty bass and Miami freestyle are influenced by. Miami freestyle was heavy on this sound back in the late 80's since that was the beat of choice for Miami records.

I got more new tracks coming with better polished vocals by known freestyle artists. I only listed the Lady Gaga and Chris Brown tracks to illustrate how the mainstream is picking up on the freestyle sound.
 
I would be happy to listen to any other songs you're feeling these days, regardless of whether it's Freestyle or not :)
 
I don't know what the first track was in this post by Lady Gaga since it was removed by YouTube (as usual!), but I'm assuming it's probably monster, and if it is, I'm glad because that is the precise track that inspired me to write one of my posts a while back...

And as far as Wendy, loved her new track and have used it in a few mixes, but I just can't stand the weakness of the beat and how much of a lack of bass there is. The melody's and sound totally overpower the beat itself, and I wish it had a stronger beat. When I called her, I told her this. I told her there should also be some electro / breakbeat remixes. As of right now though, I have certain remixes I've made with a stronger beat laid on top of it that I use from time to time. I'm also looking forward to her future releases, based on certain things I've heard so far. The modernization of freestyle... And yes, lately I've been bringing back a lot of freestyle into my freestyle mixes at Club KDM lately (with much more to come soon) and have been getting some great response ever since I got off this "urban tilt" tip where I've been trying to skew everything towards an urban sound. Time to forget the ghetto hype thug style and just get back to concentrating on having fun and feeling the music - BUT this does not mean I'm telling everyone they should all stop and just start making songs like "tik tok". Anyway, I'm going to read (& listen) to more of what's on this page and see what else, if anything, I may have to say.


ANYWAY, since we are on a freestyle vibe right now, then I might as well let people hear this! http://7000express.multiply.com/music The first mix, Project Mixx 0210.3, is the one you're looking for, which will be available for DL March 6. People on certain sites are loving this one... I guess I shall also add http://soundcloud.com/djkdm02 .. the first mix  on there as well.  Lastly for now, I'll just say when it comes to freestyle, I'm still very picky on vocal quality. This is why I only use / play certain selections from certain albums / artists.
 
Another couple of songs I like can be found here: www.7000express.multiply.com
The entire mix should start playing automatically upon entering page. The ENTIRE MIX (as it is the weekend of March 5-7th) consists of all songs I like at the moment, especially the first track in the mix.
 
The Lady Gaga track that I posted is "No Way". The version that was removed from youtube was the real deal. All others versions on youtube are not on the right pich but you can get a feel for it :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAbOc5Inu64&feature=related

As far as "Monster" that's another song that has a strong electro/freestyle influence.


I agree with you on the beats of most current freestyle songs. It's been a pet peeve of mine for years since im a beat junkie.I'll have to check out your mixes since they are usually sick.
 
I think this is a good read for those who want to know more about dance and freestyle.

What is Freestyle? In order to answer that question you'd have to go back as far as the death of Disco back in the early 80's. Disco was Pop music in the late 70's and one of the biggest radio stations in the country was Disco 92 (WKTU-FM) in New York. Disco 92's core audience was made up primarily of Hispanics and Italian Americans. When Disco faltered in the early 80's, so did WKTU's ratings. In a move to bolster their sagging ratings, WKTU changed their format (and eventually their call letters) to a more mainstream pop format and eventually to rock. Another station cross-town, WXLO (99X) also was changing its format. By 1981, 99X changed to 98.7 KISS-FM, an urban station hoping to chip away at WBLS' stronghold on New York's African American audience. In 1983, WHTZ (Z100) went on the air to take on WPLJ for the mainstream, primarily white audience abandoned by WKTU. Through all these format changes, one demographic - the huge Hispanic audience in New York went - overlooked. Most Latins opted for KISS-FM and WBLS, who did play the occasional club record, but other Latins found an alternative to hear new music. They went underground.

In 1982, when Afrika Bambaataa and the Soulsonic Force released "Planet Rock," a new sound was born. Some called it "hip-hop be-bop" or breakdancing music. While most of the neighborhood clubs were steadily closing their doors for good, some Manhattan clubs were suddenly thriving. Places like the Roxy, the Funhouse, Broadway 96, Gothams West, and Roseland who played this new sound were packed. Records like "Play At Your Own Risk" by Planet Patrol, "One More Shot" by C-Bank, "Numbers" by Kraftwerk, "Al-Naafiyish (The Soul)" by Hashim and "I.O.U." by Freeze became huge hits in New York. Some producers wisely copied the sound and made songs that were more melodic. Records like "I Remember What You Like" by Jenny Burton, and "Let The Music Play" and "Give Me Tonight" by Shannon were all over New York radio. Many of these performers performed at the Funhouse and Roseland to packed dance floors. The people packing these dance floors were young Latins, mainly Puerto Rican. The D.J.'s who played the music, (i e. Jellybean, Tony Torres, Raul Soto. Roman Ricardo, etc.) were also Hispanic. However, those on stage performing these songs were not, neither were most of the producers making the music.
 
There were exceptions. In 1984, Nayobe released her first single "Please Don't Go." Nayobe, a Cuban American who was sixteen years old when she recorded the song, was the discovery of Andy Panda who co-produced and co-wrote the song "Please Don't Go" became an instant club classic and served as a bridge between the Shannonesque records that were flooding the market and the sound that developed the following year - Latin Hip-Hop. This was also true of Jellybean's remake of the classic "The Mexican." The single that many consider the first true Latin Hip-Hop record was Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam's "I Wonder If I Take You Home." The song was originally signed to Personal Records in New York and not released in the U.S. It was licensed to CBS Records in England and became a big club record on import. The response the record received from the Latin Hip-Hop clubs led Columbia Records to pick up the single for U S release where it became an anthem for teen-age girls. The song reached #34 on the Pop charts in August of 1985 and Lisa Lisa became a role model for young Hispanics all over her hometown of New York.

It was also 1985 when I discovered three young Puerto Rican teens named Tony, Kayel and Aby - TKA. Kayel came to Tommy Boy Records, where I worked at the time, with rap demos, but I turned them all down. When he told me he could also sing, I agreed to go to a performance at a sweet sixteen party in the basement of a church in East Harlem. It was there I first heard "Scars of Love," a song Kayel wrote that they would perform over the instrumentals of the biggest rap tracks of the moment. When I saw the reaction of the largely Latin crowd of kids, I knew I had to do something to get them signed. It was at this party that I also met the Latin Rascals - Tony Moran and Albert Cabrera, whose names I knew from their editing work on Arthur Baker and John Robie productions and their D.J. work on WKTU and KISS-FM. We went into the studio and recorded a rough version of "Scars Of Love." By summer of that year TKA had begun to build a following in New York performing the song for free wherever someone would let them, such as radio station events and benefit concerts. Word of mouth finally reached Tommy Boy Records who decided to sign the group. Although we had recorded a rough version of "Scars Of Love," we felt it needed reworking and decided to record a new song to be TKA's first single.
 
One way love by TKA was played on KAJM last night. I believe this was also the first TKA song I heard back in the mid 90's during the noon mix on KKFR, which was in the same set with ABC's "between me & her" and Starpoints "Object of my desire" amongst other thins. Flash forward a few years later and I heard this same mix set during the old school mix at noon on KZZP in the early 00's.
 
Morpheux,

The writings above referring to Freestyle sound like the liner notes that Joey Gardner wrote for the Freestyle's Greatest Hits series. Is that where you got them? If so, you should at least reference the source material.

jp
 
JohnParker said:
Morpheux,

The writings above referring to Freestyle sound like the liner notes that Joey Gardner wrote for the Freestyle's Greatest Hits series. Is that where you got them? If so, you should at least reference the source material.

jp

These are definitely the liner notes from Freestyle's Greatest Beats. I meant to post all of the notes as well as the credit to Joey Gardner but got caught up with other matters.

Here is a link for the entire liner notes:

http://music.hyperreal.org/library/history_of_freestyle.html
 
DJ_Perry said:
Morpheux said:
and the sound that developed the following year - Latin Hip-Hop.

Wasn't there a period where they referred to freestyle as "Heart Throb" music? As many of the singers are females singing about their broken hearts?

Yea,it was called that before freestyle in some areas. It was also called roller skate music in FL. Somehow freestyle becamethe popular way to call it in the early 90's when it started disappearing from pop radio.
 
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