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2022: We gained three dance stations this year!
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Mormons are not supposed to drink any kind of coffee or non-herbal tea, not just those containing caffeine. Caffeinated soda, however, is allowed by the LDS Church:
Salt Lake City is the only place I have ever Seen Caffeine Free Diet Coke on Fountain Drink Stations
Has LDS Church guidance changed on these points in recent decades, or were the widely circulated stories about the church forbidding consumption of all beverages containing alcohol or stimulants just urban legends?
The NPR article I linked to explains it. Joseph Smith forbade alcohol and "hot drinks", which Mormons assume to mean coffee and tea -- and since both coffee and tea contain caffeine, many assume that to mean all caffeinated beverages are banned. But the LDS Church declared they are not.
^^^^^^^ I have Mormons in my extended family and it appears that decaf tea is OK. Several of them drink it, and they are fairly devout. Obviously, the official church doctrines and proclamations vary from year to year, decade to decade. The leader of the church is considered a 'prophet' of sorts, meaning that his proclamations are taken seriously.
RE: dance music in Utah in general: Utah is a growing state. A lot of tech industry is moving there. There are a lot of transplants (including non-Mormon transplants) in the state, and in the SLC metro. That may explain at least some of the appeal of dance music in the market.
RE: dance music in Utah in general: Utah is a growing state. A lot of tech industry is moving there. There are a lot of transplants (including non-Mormon transplants) in the state, and in the SLC metro. That may explain at least some of the appeal of dance music in the market.
Did any of you ever listen to Beat Radio 20+ years ago? That was a great dance/electronica format based out of Minneapolis and with affiliates in KC and elsewhere.
Here's an old thread with more info on it:
Here's an old thread with more info on it:
I don't know much about Mormons, but as a long-time listener and follower and sometime presenter of Dance format radio, I think it's in a weird place. A bit like CHR, it's a really quite cyclical format - often based on how much product is being put out, and the quality of that product, but the freshness of the musical product is often lacking.
It's one of those formats that sounds really fresh when a listener first tunes in - there's a wow factor to a lot of the music, big beats and strong vocals and pianos and catchy riffs. It often rockets up the ratings as it enters a new market. But it doesn't take more than a few months for it to start to sound really stale and drop off in listenership. The music gets very samey - often it's the same few big mass producers churning out track after track after track with the same formulaic approach. How many more tracks from e.g. "David Guetta ft Calvin Harris x MNEK x Sigala and Jax Jones" do we need?
There's also a lot of really old product on Dance radio - either covers of old 1970s/80s pop songs/assets being exploited to within an inch of their life (as an example, Young Hearts Run Free is doing the rounds on our local Dance station at present), or remixes and reworkings of 1990s and 2000s dance tracks, the same vocal hooks over and over. As a listener who is getting older, I'm finding the same stuff coming around again and again. Every so often a track will come around that makes you go "wow, this is fresh" but for the most part it's the same tired tropes.
Interestingly, Classic Dance is a format that's starting to pop up here and there in the UK and Europe - stations targeting people my age, 30s and 40s and even older, with the tracks we remember. We think of Dance as a youth-focused format, but the music has been around since the 1980s and at this point it has "classics" like any other genre. This sort of track from 1991(!), where you know from the very first piano note that it's Sound of Eden:
It's one of those formats that sounds really fresh when a listener first tunes in - there's a wow factor to a lot of the music, big beats and strong vocals and pianos and catchy riffs. It often rockets up the ratings as it enters a new market. But it doesn't take more than a few months for it to start to sound really stale and drop off in listenership. The music gets very samey - often it's the same few big mass producers churning out track after track after track with the same formulaic approach. How many more tracks from e.g. "David Guetta ft Calvin Harris x MNEK x Sigala and Jax Jones" do we need?
There's also a lot of really old product on Dance radio - either covers of old 1970s/80s pop songs/assets being exploited to within an inch of their life (as an example, Young Hearts Run Free is doing the rounds on our local Dance station at present), or remixes and reworkings of 1990s and 2000s dance tracks, the same vocal hooks over and over. As a listener who is getting older, I'm finding the same stuff coming around again and again. Every so often a track will come around that makes you go "wow, this is fresh" but for the most part it's the same tired tropes.
Interestingly, Classic Dance is a format that's starting to pop up here and there in the UK and Europe - stations targeting people my age, 30s and 40s and even older, with the tracks we remember. We think of Dance as a youth-focused format, but the music has been around since the 1980s and at this point it has "classics" like any other genre. This sort of track from 1991(!), where you know from the very first piano note that it's Sound of Eden:
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They’re more of a Top 40/CHR though.
Makes me wonder if people get exposed to some of the older stuff would it stick.
For awhile 100.7 KPRC here has a Dance HD2 subchannel but it appears it's gone now. Not exactly sure when it disappeared. I didn't listen to it that often because 32 Kbps HD radio is very harsh sounding.
With that said I found a old video them playing a good Above & Beyond track from 2006 in 2019 when I took the picture.
Was stunned when I saw that. Didn't think something like that would ever see airplay in the US. Not to mention my tiny radio market here.
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You also want to add 97.1 KNX HD3 - Firelane from Audacy. They have a 24/7 EDM mixshow in Los Angeles. Something I never thought LA would ever have. They mainly like Hip Hop and Reggaeton/Latin CHR here.
Absolutely remember Beat Radio, it aired from earlly evening thru the wee hours on 740 KIDR in Phoenix. Unfortunately, it was meant tto be temporary as KIDR, and the other AM's carrying it were waiting to start airing programming from a newly formed Catholic radio network. I would best compare it to the current KREV in S.F., House, Trance, from a club in Minneapolis. I'm not sure if all the music that aired came directly from the dj spinning at the nightclub, when it's late at night on a Sunday or Monday. But that's how it was presented on the air. It aired for longer than expected, as the Catholics were having issues getting things up and running, I believe.
And more unusual than Utah, this was all heard on a group of AM stations, yes Dance/EDM on AM 😯 on radio stations recently purchased by a Catholic religious broadcaster. So, stranger things can happen!
The live nightclub broadcasts were very common on UK radio in the 90s in particular. You could usually hear the music, the DJ's comments, and some noise from the club itself - laughter and cheering. Some stations have brought them back in recent years as a "retro" thing for old people like me who remember them in the 90s - I heard a promo recently that invited the listener to not just listen on air, but "be part of the screams and shouts" by going along in person.
Irish border-blaster Atlantic 252 ran a Dance/Urban format for a few years on AM: Simon Hardwick Jul 2000 (6'20) - Atlantic 252
Some stations in Kansas City used to have live remotes from a bar district called Westport on weekends in the late 90s/early 2000s. I don't know when they stopped but the last time I was partying in Westport, there weren't any remotes going on.
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Freed went on to program XM's BPM, and presented (IMHO) far and away the most compelling Dance Hits format of all time there around 20 years ago.
The Beat Radio AMs were former "Radio Aahs" affiliates IIRC. It was on AM, but it sounded great! Here's one of the staples from the Beat Radio Nationwide AM Network:
The Beat Radio AMs were former "Radio Aahs" affiliates IIRC. It was on AM, but it sounded great! Here's one of the staples from the Beat Radio Nationwide AM Network:
I thought we were discussing something new.
Impossible. Nothing sounds great on AM.
It was 1997.
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