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24/7 live staffing

Many stations across the country have tried to save costs by automating for periods of the broadcast week. Most likely period to be automated: overnights (midnight to 5 or 6 a.m.).
Stations can do this by having a relay system set up that calls someone responsible (engineer, PD, GM, etc.) if the station goes off the air.

Part of the FCC's localism proposal is to have 24/7/365 required human presence at radio stations.

I would imagine that in many small markets, this would be a budget buster. But the FCC thinks this would increase localism.

What do you think? Should the FCC required 24/7 live staffing? Could there be a compromise such as staffing required from 6 a.m. to midnight? What if you have a group with up to eight stations in one building: Should one person be allowed to be responsible for all eight stations at once? Could the FCC accomplish this with a bill in Congress to give stations that agree to 24/7 staffing significant tax breaks? Should the staffing requirements be dependent on station signal or market size (only the largest markets would be required to have 24/7 staffing; stations with small signals would be exempt)?
 
Funny this should show up today. I woke up to an ice storm around DC, but heard nothing about it on overnight radio, I had to go to the TV to get information, because overnights are voicetracked. TV was all national news, so I had to go to the internet to get travel info.

What ever happened to "Broadcasting in the public interest". Isn't that what the FCC is supposed police ?

How can anyone seriously claim they are broadcasting in the public interest if they cant even get an updated weather forecast on the air?

Face it gang, radio has "cheaped" itself out of listeners, all to save a few bucks on staffing. I've given my life to this business and its sad to see it die because of greed.
 
Even if the FCC or whoever would require stations to be staffed during the late night/early morning hours, I really doubt we will see the return to the all night "live & local "radio show anytime soon. At least on most stations anyway.

For starters I believe a lot of those syndicated overnight shows do NOT allow for local content other than the usual local IDs, commercials, promos, jingles and liners. Sure, shows like Coast to Coast AM for example I am sure could really care less if some local station airs a local newscast or weather report during the overnight as long as it doesn't interupt their show but those overnight music shows....that is something else all together.

Back in the mid 90s we used to air the now-defunct Interstate Radio Network ( IRN ) from Midnight to 5. For awhile our overnight board-op would read the local weather/school closings and the like during those hours. However one day the folks at IRN heard about it and sent us a memo saying that NO local content is to air during their show otherwise we could face legal problems. The memo more/less said that since we signed up for their program then the overnight belongs to them and no one else.

Blair Garner's popular country music overnight show "After Midnight" had a similar policy for awhile I can recall.
They may still do have such a policy but I am not sure. Been years since I worked at a station that carried Blair.
 
If a station is forced to be staffed in the overnight, why not put that staffer on the air in some capacity? Far as I know, shows like After Midnite are popular because they eliminate that position, not because Garner will draw in uber dollars for that 6 hour shift.

i.e., if not on the air, what would the staffer be doing?
 
To answer the previous post: Unfortunately, the staffer would be making sure the commercials get played during the breaks in the network/satellite show.

My first paying radio job was at a AM daytimer that took a music format in the mid 1980s from Satellite Music Network. The station wasn't automated. There were board ops for every hour the station was on the air. We read local news (wire copy mostly) at the top of the hour, and a quick weather at the bottom of the hour. We ever had a one-minute local stork market report after the markets closed in PM drive.

I'd never heard the "no local content" rule for the overnight shows like Blair Garner. Stuff like that, if I were a station owner or General Manager, would make me much less likely to carry the show.
 
radiophiler said:
I'd never heard the "no local content" rule for the overnight shows like Blair Garner. Stuff like that, if I were a station owner or General Manager, would make me much less likely to carry the show.

That is exactly why my station dropped the Interstate Radio Network. The "no local content" thing !! As I recall one of their hosts ( Sunny Stevens I think was her name ) was in our area for some reason and heard our board-op do a local weather report. She calls up the board op and demands why the hell was he on the air on THEIR program. Of course he didn't think he was doing anything wrong. A few days later we got the memo from then and from that point on..no more weathers and the like were to air on their show.

We dropped that show as soon as the contract with them ran out. But within a month we picked up After Midnight ( then a brand new show ). And right in the contract my station had to sign..it was right there..."No local content is to air during After Mindight except for commericals, promos, liners, jingles and the legal ID". But that was in 1993..maybe things have changed since but for some reason I doubt it. Even school closings were a no-no.
 
mleach said:
radiophiler said:
I'd never heard the "no local content" rule for the overnight shows like Blair Garner. Stuff like that, if I were a station owner or General Manager, would make me much less likely to carry the show.

That is exactly why my station dropped the Interstate Radio Network. The "no local content" thing !! As I recall one of their hosts ( Sunny Stevens I think was her name ) was in our area for some reason and heard our board-op do a local weather report. She calls up the board op and demands why the hell was he on the air on THEIR program. Of course he didn't think he was doing anything wrong. A few days later we got the memo from then and from that point on..no more weathers and the like were to air on their show.

We dropped that show as soon as the contract with them ran out. But within a month we picked up After Midnight ( then a brand new show ). And right in the contract my station had to sign..it was right there..."No local content is to air during After Mindight except for commericals, promos, liners, jingles and the legal ID". But that was in 1993..maybe things have changed since but for some reason I doubt it. Even school closings were a no-no.



Seems rather silly to me tht they would not allow local weather. Do they not realize that is one reason people listen to the radio? That would never fly on the stations I work for. My bosses are big on getting updated weather on the air. They would never carry a show that had a stipulation like that in the contract.
 
radiophiler said:
What if you have a group with up to eight stations in one building: Should one person be allowed to be responsible for all eight stations at once?

That's not the craziest idea in the world.

radiophiler said:
stork market report

...Never mind! Too many punchlines to choose from! :)
 
radiophiler said:
What if you have a group with up to eight stations in one building: Should one person be allowed to be responsible for all eight stations at once?

I can actually do better than that. My last job was monitoring 11 stations from 11P-6A weeknights, plus pulling my shift on-air, dubbing in all the barter and syndication for the cluster, and updating all the websites. I'm currently on the beach so if you are looking to fill your opening I am definitely available.
 
I can think of stations that would go out of buisness with having to have someone babysit 24/7 when there's really no reason to. I think we'd go back to a lot of smaller market station singning off at 10pm or midnight...just like in the "good old days"
 
sack said:
Face it gang, radio has "cheaped" itself out of listeners, all to save a few bucks on staffing. I've given my life to this business and its sad to see it die because of greed.


Very true but there are quite a few other reasons why radio is pretty much dead now.

1. Questionable PDs/GMs: Until just a few years my girlfriend's hometown ( small town ) in Pennsylvania had a station that was live 24/7. Even though they were "live" their jocks didn't give the weather or local information after 7pm. Why? Their program director didn't allow it. His opinion of giving the weather and school/business closings at night? Let them watch the tube !!! So instead their jocks talked about "more important" things like Shirley & Fred Phelps and the latest Paris Hilton gossip or if Britney would make it through another day. The lack of "local content" is not always a budget thing, sometimes it could be the result of some PD's idea that such stuff like "lost pets" or an update on that fire down the street is a "small market thing" and they want their station to sound "major market" even if that station is IN a small market.

2. Radio is living in the past: The other day our morning guy was saying how his ratings aren't as high as they were 10 years ago. Could it be that so many people no longer work that 9am to 5pm shift and have weekends free? Many cities now have 24 hour rush hours plus more and more people work so-called odd hours. To them "weekends" mean Tuesday & Wednesday, not Saturday and Sunday. For every 5 people who do work that Monday thur Friday 9-5 shift ( the hours radio for the most part believes most people do work ) you have just as many who do not now. A lot of factories do that 10-12 hour shift thing now plus look at all the retail chains that are now open 24/7. For the most part that didn't exist 10 years ago. Many places banks are open now way past those old so-called "banker hours ". Plus the sight of office workers doing thier jobs at 9pm is commonplace now. IMO I don't believe radio accepts this.

3. Ipods and other "on demand" : There was a time when wearing a walkman while shopping would make people stare at you. Considered rude. Same with cell phones. Today who cares !! People want to hear their favorite music, watch their favorite TV shows..when they want too. Pretty much all the big networks now offers their shows online for people to watch anytime they want. Not to mention TVIO, DVDs, and the rest. Music..its quite hard for radio compete with the computer there. Why should they expect people to listen to the radio when all they really have to do is download their favorite songs and they can listen to their favorite songs anytime they want. Radio just can't compete with that, well music radio that is anyway.

4. The internet: Schools and colleges post their closings on their websites now. Many of them no longer call up radio stations to pass the news to them. Same thing with many cities, counties, towns and so forth. They have news..they will post it there. No need to listen to radio to get such information and with the the cost of PCs and net access getting lower and lower every years, even the "poor" folks have access to the web now. Hard to believe now but 10-15 years ago pretty much computer geeks and the "rich" had internet. Today most everyone has at least someplace they can go to get access to it. Plus with the net you have those "internet radio stations" and the brings up the issue of variety.

5. Radio just doesn't get played as much: I am sure most of us remember when many of those mall stores played local radio over their sound systems in their stores. Some doctors offices would play the local light rock station over the phone to those who were placed on hold. Today very few do that. If they do play music its usually some Muzak style source or XM or Sirus. Plus a lot of offices and factories for various reasons no longer allow radios at all for their employees.

6. Satellite Radio: True many local stations are in the HD-Radio thing. But many, many local stations aren't. In some markets not a single station offers anything in HD. However most people know about satellite radio and with many new cars offering the service to customers, more and more are getting it. Then again there is the variety issue too. Satellite radio offers more choices. From those who enjoy 50's rock and roll music to those who like to hear uncensored talk (Stern ) well satellite radio offers that. Standard radio does not.

The idea of radio going back to 24/7 staffing at first sounds like a good idea. But it really is a case of "too little..too late".
Today's listener has so much in terms of choices and I really doubt they will be giving up their ipods or dump satellite radio because their local stations now has a warm body there around the clock.
 
bk77 said:
sack said:
Face it gang, radio has "cheaped" itself out of listeners, all to save a few bucks on staffing. I've given my life to this business and its sad to see it die because of greed.

Your statement is really about business in general, not just radio.

Facts are, radio listening remains healthy. Satellite is very unhealthy right now, otherwise there'd be no XM-Sirius merger.

Times change, people change, technologies change (at an accelerated rate). We all have 2 choices: desperately hang on to the past and get left behind OR embrace where radio is and where it's headed and continue to be part of a wonderful industry. Crying and whining about *the good ole days" changes nothing and likely makes you appear to be more a part of radio's problems than it's solutions.
 
gr8oldies said:
I can think of stations that would go out of buisness with having to have someone babysit 24/7 when there's really no reason to. I think we'd go back to a lot of smaller market station singning off at 10pm or midnight...just like in the "good old days"
Maybe they should just do that.
Because they can't even have someone in the building, making sure things are okay, keeping an eye out for severe weather, etc., == LET ALONE ALOWING THEM ( OMG ) TO OPEN UP THE MIC AND ACTUALLY "TALK" TO THE LISTENERS == then perhaps they should surrender their licenses as well and let more capable people run their "money hole."
 
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