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25 years and counting.....

For all you freestyle unsympathizers it's been 25 yrs and we are still going strong.I like to see ANY dance genre pull this off.
TKA Stevie B safire, corina, judy torres, joyce sims, company b, coro, george lamond, noel, cynthia, lissette melendez, pretty poison, lisa lisa, stacey q and more......

Trump Taj Mahal
Atlantic City, New Jersey
November 6, 2010
25th Anniversary Freestyle Concert
 
Lol # 1 hater in the house.. I do like you CHRLES. But yeah, 25 yrs and freestyle still lives after it was forced off radio ;D

House,Euro and Breakbeats never lasted this long in the consicence of their fans. And I LOVE breakbeats FYI.


No one can do it like Freestyle can.....:)
 
For the record Freestyle was established before house or breakbeats.In fact,some would say they are an off shoot of freestyle music.. Famous House producers Toddy Terry and LiL Louie Vega produced freeestyle music before they did house sounds.
 
Morpheux said:
For the record Freestyle was established before house or breakbeats.In fact,some would say they are an off shoot of freestyle music..

You got it backwards - Freestyle was influenced by Breakbeats and Electro (which were one and the same in the early 80s) as well as by the whole High Energy sound.

Euro's been around even longer, pretty much started in the late 70s with some Georgio Moroder records.
 
I was referring to the Florida Breaks/Breakbeats subgenre when I mentioned it in my earlier post. Of course there were records with only breaks and beats out in the early 80's.

Electro Funk was definitely a huge influence onto the first freestyle records and there are many "borderline" records such as Tina B's Honey to a bee or C-bank's One more shot. Although I tend to lump them in the freestyle pile.

There aren't too many Euro records that I have heard that I can say influenced freestyle except for Kraftwerk's Numbers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWyG5p87--

And I never meant to imply that freestyle predates Euro or any genre from the 70's.

What I would like to see is classic house/dance acts on stage just like the freestyle acts generally do. I'm sure there is a market for this audience out there.
 
Actually, the house sounds WERE before freestyle. CHRles covered it a bit with the Giorgio Moroder electronic sounds.

In the early days, the sound was experimental and VERY underground when guys like Larry Levan and Frankie Knuckles were spinning soulful tracks (Philly Sound) and mixing it with Italo Disco at the Paradise Garage in NYC. It was when Frankie Knuckles went to the Warehouse in Chicago in the early 80's and did the sounds there, that the Chicago guys (Farley Keith, Marshall Jefferson, Jesse Saunders, just to name a few) just ran with it and made house their own :)

Proud house head since 1985 :)

Now, regarding freestyle and yeah, I am going to create controversy here. Sure the sound came to form 25 years ago and is STILL hugely popular in NYC, Miami, So. Jersey/Philly, Springfield, MA, just to name a few. But, and I am going to call this out, after 1992, once all of the Top 40 Urban stations like Hot 97 in NYC changed format, NEW freestyle dropped off and NEVER had that popularity anymore. Part of the problem were that some of the labels only cared about putting music out, but never cared about the quality of the sound. It all became "cheesy" at that point. Because of that, stations like 'KTU and Pulse 87 (in NYC) kept to the old skool sounds of the late 80's and early 90's but stayed away from anything current based.

I'll go somewhere else. Freestyle was HUGE 25 to 20 years ago where a lot of us were in our teens to early thirties. That crowd is now in their late thirties to the early fifties. What boggles my mind is the fact that those that are of that peak era wants to still keep pushing a current brand (yet 80's influenced) sound of freestyle to the younger generation. The problem is, and I had a BIG discussion about this at a freestyle meeting.....kids that are currently in their teens to twenties (and I did ask a teenage girl on this) think of freestyle as their "parents music". And let's face it, why would teens want to be into something their parents would like? LOL.

The point I'm making...yeah, freestyle "lives", but it's the same stuff from that 80's peak beaten to death over and over and over and over and over again. Nothing new was ever made to bubble. And lets face this...the freestyle crowd (the thirty somethings to the fifty somethings) is VERY hypercritical of new, bashing on that and fixated on the old, so in that sense the music was never really allowed to morph.

If freestyle has a chance to get to the next generation...it cannot sound like ANYTHING we grew up with (think of rock....are kids today listening to the 80's new wave sounds religiously? From our generation, are we fixated on Motown? Not that any of the musics were bad....far from it, but we grew up with a sound that associated with the time we lived in as teens to twenty somethings.). The music shouldn't even be called FREESTYLE! It has to have new blood (as in those that are in their teens to twenty-somethings, working class Latinos, Italians, etc. singing new tracks that have a current based sound instead of being like the 80's).

I could never say this on freestyle related boards because everyone thinks I HATE the music and would bash. That is NOT the case. I grew up with freestyle and loved it at the time. And IMHO, freestyle to me is the sounds from the breakbeats (early 80's) to the early 90's. Concerts like the Freestyle Free For All in Atlantic City are perfect for that and for the artists of that time, it is an excellent showcase to remember those days.

But if the music CAN become alive again, it has to shed off that "freestyle" label and start anew with new blood into the sound. The first generation can be of help as they "mentor" the next generation, so as to learn from past mistakes in order to make things stronger for the music.

Sorry for the length. I've been wanting to say this for the longest time but, as I said, if I put this up on a freestyle board everyone in there would want to tear a new "hole" in me for having the audacity to SUGGEST what I'm saying here.

So, Morpheux, I'll keep it here. Its safer. ;)
 
Speaking of "parents music" - Now hip hop and dirty south hip hop are the parents music, so hopefully WHTA and... ok nevermind.
 
Tony Santiago said:
Actually, the house sounds WERE before freestyle. CHRles covered it a bit with the Giorgio Moroder electronic sounds.

In the early days, the sound was experimental and VERY underground when guys like Larry Levan and Frankie Knuckles were spinning soulful tracks (Philly Sound) and mixing it with Italo Disco at the Paradise Garage in NYC. It was when Frankie Knuckles went to the Warehouse in Chicago in the early 80's and did the sounds there, that the Chicago guys (Farley Keith, Marshall Jefferson, Jesse Saunders, just to name a few) just ran with it and made house their own :)

Proud house head since 1985 :)

Now, regarding freestyle and yeah, I am going to create controversy here. Sure the sound came to form 25 years ago and is STILL hugely popular in NYC, Miami, So. Jersey/Philly, Springfield, MA, just to name a few. But, and I am going to call this out, after 1992, once all of the Top 40 Urban stations like Hot 97 in NYC changed format, NEW freestyle dropped off and NEVER had that popularity anymore. Part of the problem were that some of the labels only cared about putting music out, but never cared about the quality of the sound. It all became "cheesy" at that point. Because of that, stations like 'KTU and Pulse 87 (in NYC) kept to the old skool sounds of the late 80's and early 90's but stayed away from anything current based.

I'll go somewhere else. Freestyle was HUGE 25 to 20 years ago where a lot of us were in our teens to early thirties. That crowd is now in their late thirties to the early fifties. What boggles my mind is the fact that those that are of that peak era wants to still keep pushing a current brand (yet 80's influenced) sound of freestyle to the younger generation. The problem is, and I had a BIG discussion about this at a freestyle meeting.....kids that are currently in their teens to twenties (and I did ask a teenage girl on this) think of freestyle as their "parents music". And let's face it, why would teens want to be into something their parents would like? LOL.

The point I'm making...yeah, freestyle "lives", but it's the same stuff from that 80's peak beaten to death over and over and over and over and over again. Nothing new was ever made to bubble. And lets face this...the freestyle crowd (the thirty somethings to the fifty somethings) is VERY hypercritical of new, bashing on that and fixated on the old, so in that sense the music was never really allowed to morph.

If freestyle has a chance to get to the next generation...it cannot sound like ANYTHING we grew up with (think of rock....are kids today listening to the 80's new wave sounds religiously? From our generation, are we fixated on Motown? Not that any of the musics were bad....far from it, but we grew up with a sound that associated with the time we lived in as teens to twenty somethings.). The music shouldn't even be called FREESTYLE! It has to have new blood (as in those that are in their teens to twenty-somethings, working class Latinos, Italians, etc. singing new tracks that have a current based sound instead of being like the 80's).

I could never say this on freestyle related boards because everyone thinks I HATE the music and would bash. That is NOT the case. I grew up with freestyle and loved it at the time. And IMHO, freestyle to me is the sounds from the breakbeats (early 80's) to the early 90's. Concerts like the Freestyle Free For All in Atlantic City are perfect for that and for the artists of that time, it is an excellent showcase to remember those days.

But if the music CAN become alive again, it has to shed off that "freestyle" label and start anew with new blood into the sound. The first generation can be of help as they "mentor" the next generation, so as to learn from past mistakes in order to make things stronger for the music.

Sorry for the length. I've been wanting to say this for the longest time but, as I said, if I put this up on a freestyle board everyone in there would want to tear a new "hole" in me for having the audacity to SUGGEST what I'm saying here.

So, Morpheux, I'll keep it here. Its safer. ;)

Based on the talks I've had with Stevie B, I'm sure he would agree with all of this, especially with the parts about a lot of freestyle being cheesy. At first he was slow to it, but eventually came around to agreeing with my idea of moving on and breaking the Sea of Sameness where everyone is stuck in the past and never wants anything to change. Once he did come around to moving on and trying new things and new sounds, that's when he started talking about how people are crazy for wanting and expecting the pure old school sounds of the 80's to make a full come back because, as he says "that was some of the most cheesiest sh*t ever done!". He's also told me to stay away from freestyle forums as well, mainly because "they are all a bunch of haters" as he describes it.

Anyway, I found it funny when I first discovered this thread and saw that CHRles said exactly what I was thinking to write cheekily as a reply to the very first post. * I've decided not to bring up the urban / urban dance on urbans topic I was about to slide into after all - and be thankful because deleting what I had originally written after the start symbol there did make this post I'm typing now originally a lot longer than it is now.
 
Tony Santiago said:
Now, regarding freestyle and yeah, I am going to create controversy here.  Sure the sound came to form 25 years ago and is STILL hugely popular in NYC, Miami, So. Jersey/Philly, Springfield, MA, just to name a few. But, and I am going to call this out, after 1992, once all of the Top 40 Urban stations like Hot 97 in NYC changed format, NEW freestyle dropped off and NEVER had that popularity anymore.  Part of the problem were that some of the labels only cared about putting music out, but never cared about the quality of the sound.  It all became "cheesy" at that point.  Because of that, stations like 'KTU and Pulse 87 (in NYC) kept to the old skool sounds of the late 80's and early 90's but stayed away from anything current based.

I'll go somewhere else.  Freestyle was HUGE 25 to 20 years ago where a lot of us were in our teens to early thirties.  That crowd is now in their late thirties to the early fifties.  What boggles my mind is the fact that those that are of that peak era wants to still keep pushing a current brand (yet 80's influenced) sound of freestyle to the younger generation.  The problem is, and I had a BIG discussion about this at a freestyle meeting.....kids that are currently in their teens to twenties (and I did ask a teenage girl on this) think of freestyle as their "parents music".  And let's face it, why would teens want to be into something their parents would like? LOL.

The point I'm making...yeah, freestyle "lives", but it's the same stuff from that 80's peak beaten to death over and over and over and over and over again.  Nothing new was ever made to bubble.  And lets face this...the freestyle crowd (the thirty somethings to the fifty somethings) is VERY hypercritical of new, bashing on that and fixated on the old, so in that sense the music was never really allowed to morph. 

lol, this is why I keep it safe and make freestyle a "specialty show" just for the freestyle fanatics.  Regarding the new generation of teens to the thirty somethings, quite a few in that group (including me) had dealt with the overplayed freestyle (KTU circa 1996 era) and are still jamming to it, and only a few new freestyle tracks at that time made success in plays (correct me on this) but I remember Rockell dominating the late 90's with her singles "In A Dream", "I Fell In Love" and "When I'm Gone".  Lina Santiago's "Show Me your Love" got decent airplay, Angelina's "Release Me" was another hit, Cynthia came back in 99 with "If I Had The Chance" and (not sure if this artist was a one hit wonder type) but if you remember Caprice back in 99, she released a "new freestyle" single "There Goes Your Heart."  If there were any other late 90's freestyle sound that came out and I forgot, forgive me  ;D

Tony Santiago said:
If freestyle has a chance to get to the next generation...it cannot sound like ANYTHING we grew up with (think of rock....are kids today listening to the 80's new wave sounds religiously?  From our generation, are we fixated on Motown?   Not that any of the musics were bad....far from it, but we grew up with a sound that associated with the time we lived in as teens to twenty somethings.).  The music shouldn't even be called FREESTYLE!   It has to have new blood (as in those that are in their teens to twenty-somethings, working class Latinos, Italians, etc. singing new tracks that have a current based sound instead of being like the 80's). 

In this matter, it will probaly fall under the "rhythmic" category.  And with the new dance leaning sounds of what's out there from Guetta, Flo-Rida, Lady Gaga, Jay Sean, I don't know why the "rhythmic" brand is being called "Uptempo R&B" as KDM pointed out in another post.  Now Coro released a new single "Sexy Lady", and around that time, Lucas Prata broke out a rhythmic freestyle sound titled "Gimme The Beat."  To me, it all sounds similar to the material Akon, Kat DeLuna, Pitbull, Guetta, etc. are putting out, and I am going by the term "rhythmic" as this "new" brand of dance/freestyle.  I agree with KDM, the "Uptempo R&B" term has to go. 

BTW, did anyone hear Matisse's rhythmic version of "Better Than Her" featuring Akon? ;D
 
25 Years and Counting;
The evolution of music... urban formatting dance play, and URBAN DANCE!

Could you imagine if the term "urban dance" stuck and became popular for today's mainstream electro sound? I wonder how urban formats would react if the new electro-pop/r&b, electro-hiphop, bmore, and house sound of today was called or labeled "URBAN DANCE"?

Maybe then Usher "OMG" would not be the only electro-pop sound playing on all urbans today, especially in a town I may be moving to and living in once again, soon...

What I don't understand is how back in the day when dance was hot, urbans were friendly to the urban dance sound, then friendly to the booty or miami bass sound, then when everything fast "died" in the mid 00's, everything seemingly became all slow tempo hip hop and r&b on urbans (with exception to old school mix shows), AND THEN, SUDDENLY SOMEHOW, THIS is where urbans "got stuck" and decided to stop evolving their tempos with the times! Based on past experiences, wouldn't you think now that electro-hip hop, bmore, and electro-r&b are technically the new urban dance / bass sound, this trend would also reflect on urbans today? How come the evolution in urban sound happened to seemingly get stuck at the slow tempo generation sound while every other format seems to stay true to their sound, but also change with the times? How are urbans continuously finding this endless supply of nothing but mainly 70-105 bpm music to dominate their playlists 24/7 while ignoring the urban dance trend? I'm not even saying play electro-pop, but at least the urban dance hits... in a mixshow or something!

As far as I'm concerned, that generation sound of all slow down tempo hip hop and r&b on urban is now the PARENTS sound and the "kids don't want to hear that" rule should apply here as well!! If urban formats were quick to evolve and change with the times when uptempo urban sounds and dance were in a stateof decline, then why can't they be just as fast with accepting the REVERSE version of the declining trend that's going on today? Not only that, but only the AMERICAN urbans seem to operate in such a way that anything outside of hip hop and r&b is forbidden. Lastly, I cannot understand how a town where Dj Class, Jermaine Dupri, Akon, Lil Jon...etc. are from themselves cannot even support their own artist's electro-hip hop sound, and it's even funnier that urbans wont support it - especially when those artists themselves have gone in that direction to follow the trends and times with a percentage of their music.

Anyway, I've gotten way off the topic of freestyle, but if we're talking about changes and evolution in time, then I've got to ask why can't the urbans CONTINUE TO evolve as well? Why are urbans still formatting a down tempo urban sound as if we're in 2005 and seemingly only picking out the slow rap and r&b? I'm not even saying they should add questionable urban dance tracks to their playlists, but at least feature some type of electro-hip hop and urban dance specialty show or something - even if it's once a week. I doubt Booty Bass was the last uptempo sound ever ever ever that could be played and accepted on southern urban stations - and I'm not just beating up on one city, I'm talking about ALL American urbans - including the ones in Detroit (although I cannot argue that the northern urbans played booty bass or as much uptempo urban dance material as the southern urbans did!). - but that's all besides the point because NOW the electro hip hop and urban dance trend is more NATIONWIDE than regional, so... I'm just saying.
 
I had no intentions of resurrecting this thread until tonight when someone I know posted on facebook how Stevie B walked away when asked to take a picture with my friend's nieice and her friend. His facebook lit up with ******bag Stevie B moments.

I was reminded of how Stevie thought according to what was said here that freestyle was so cheesy. As if the 80's were not cheesy all together (big hair bands anyone)?

In fact,he's the epitome of what was cheesy in freestyle from his mullet to tight leather pants. Just look up any of his videos. Compare him to George Lamond who can sing circles around him any day and tell me who stands the test of time better.

I understand the popular notion is to think of freestyle as passe and for a more mature crowd but that varies from region to region. I mentioned before how freestyle has a huge following in Brazil and as far away as Germany and Asia.Check out how 20's looking the crowd is in Miami and Orlando:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=26955&id=100001310472516

As far as the music in the states,the Coro and the Lucas Prata track show how the sound is evolving.Finally,someone woke up and realized that all those Akon and Jay Sean type of songs were a new twist on the freestyle sound.The new freestyle sound has been here and better yet, no one has been labeling it freestyle. Jay Sean and Akon just to name a feware the modern sound of freestyle........
 
Morpheux said:
I had no intentions of resurrecting this thread until tonight when someone I know posted on facebook how Stevie B walked away when asked to take a picture with my friend's nieice and her friend. His facebook lit up with ******bag Stevie B moments.

I was reminded of how Stevie thought according to what was said here that freestyle was so cheesy. As if the 80's were not cheesy all together (big hair bands anyone)?

In fact,he's the epitome of what was cheesy in freestyle from his mullet to tight leather pants. Just look up any of his videos. Compare him to George Lamond who can sing circles around him any day and tell me who stands the test of time better.

I understand the popular notion is to think of freestyle as passe and for a more mature crowd but that varies from region to region. I mentioned before how freestyle has a huge following in Brazil and as far away as Germany and Asia.Check out how 20's looking the crowd is in Miami and Orlando:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=26955&id=100001310472516

As far as the music in the states,the Coro and the Lucas Prata track show how the sound is evolving.Finally,someone woke up and realized that all those Akon and Jay Sean type of songs were a new twist on the freestyle sound.The new freestyle sound has been here and better yet, no one has been labeling it freestyle. Jay Sean and Akon just to name a feware the modern sound of freestyle........

I agree and disagree.

When it comes to the new Jay Sean, Lucas Prata, Coro, and the other uptempo bubble gum hip house & b quasi trey songz pop club stuff you discussed, I agree. ;D

However, when it comes to Stevie B being the epitome of cheesiness, when it comes strictly to his music, I disagree. Even though I didn't discover his music until the 90's because it didn't play where I was living, I did realized how far ahead of the game he was in sound and instrumental production. While other freestyle artists were still on that old school 80's multiple beats sound, he was on to the miami bass sound, moving right along to the electro bass sound that was to come later in the 90's. He was one of the best when it came to fusing bass and freestyle together and creating intense, hot melodies and melodic arrangements. He's also the only freestyle artist that I know that has used ALL styles of freestyle - everything from the bay area electro sound to the east coast sound to the down south sound to the miami bass and even spanish freestyle sound, and even up to today's modern quasi uptempo bubble gum hip house & b trey songz pop stuff!! He's also the only freestyle artist / producer that has used the electro sound (as heard in Angelina, Planet Soul, Jocelyn Enriquez..etc) in TODAY'S modern Flo Rida "low" and Ciara "get up" style beats. Maybe the lyrics would be considered cheesy today like all the other freestyle love songs of the past, but as far as his productions, he has always been one of the best. I also heard (from him) that HE was the one who taught the producer of many of Angelina, M:G, Pinay, and Jocelyn Enriquez's hits & remixes how to arrange those sounds, beats, vocals and stuff. As far as his 80's looks, I will not get into that, and I also wont get into his attitude or drama situations...etc. either. When it comes to music and production, though, he's most definitely top notch, and still "got it" production-wise, today..
 
Stevie B is great at what he does for as long as he has. I give him credit for never abandoning the freestyle sound altogether while he tried out different sounds.He always had at least 3 or 4 freestyle songs when he experimented with other genres.If the main freestyle artists did the same then the genre would have commanded more respectabilty. Instead alot of non talented kareoke singers flooded the scene to fill the void because there was still a demand for the music. But that's another subject. :D

I do have to point out that Stevie might have done all flavors of freestyle but he never pioneer the sounds. And that's not to take anything from him.When you said that the East Coast was stuck on the multiple beats while Stevie B did the planet rock sound,well that's far from true. And I say that respectfully.

The record that started the planet rock craze in the 1992 was LiL Suzy's Take me in your arms. It was the Billboard dance song of the year and Suzy was the dance artist of the year.Stevie didn't record a freestyle track with the planet rock loop till 1994.

In 1993 Collage had a massive hit with I'll be loving you which also sampled the planet rock loop (as well as info society's running).

In 1993 High Power,Viper,and Tazmania records saturated the market with freestyle compilations laced with the planet rock sound.

http://www.amazon.com/High-Power-Records-Greatest-Freestyle/dp/B000003ZT1


http://www.amazon.com/Tazmania-Freestyle-Various-Artists/dp/B000001QRO/ref=pd_sim_m_1

http://www.amazon.com/Vipers-Hit-Parade-V"arious-Artists/dp/B000000QW8/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_1


Again,Stevie B didn't record a song with the planet rock beat till 1994.All the labels above and artist are East Coast and were doing the sound in 1992 and 1993.

As for the West Coast progressive sound the record that started all that was actually from Miami! Set u free by Planet Soul was the prototype that was copied by Lina Santiago's "feel so good" and then by Jocelyn Enriquez "A lil bit of extasy". "Set u free was released in latre 1995 and "feel so good" in the summer of 96. A lil bit of estasy was released in early 1997. Now,where in this era did Stevie do a West Coast progressive sound? ???

Also,his claim that he was the sound of Jocelyn,Angelina M:G,PINAY is ludicrous.You're on freestyle remix ask Glenn Gutierrez the producer of most of those artists if that is true. I'm staying out of that one. :eek:
 
I think we study this topic way too deeply. For the record, Jay Sean and Akon have no comparison to freestyle. I realize there are breakbeat fanatics here who are always looking for a freestyle resurrection, but that beat pattern was done way before freestyle. Early hip hop was uptempo (It's Tricky, What People Do For Money, Supersonic, Looking for the Perfect Beat) along with the Breakdancing Anthems (Afro Rican, Midnight Star, Twilight 22, Cybotron). Those are the REAL pioneers and influences of the 90's Breakbeat Era. When I hear Ghost Town DJ's, Planet Soul or one of the rip offs, I don't hear any Expose or Stevie B influences. I hear the overlooked examples I just mentioned. If anything, Todays Uptempo R/B (Flo Rida, Ciara, even BEP) can also compared to the Electro Funk of the early 80's. Trying to name it freestyle is silly. It's like trying to search for current rock bands that can tour with Ratt or Pretty Poison.
 
DJ_Perry said:
I think we study this topic way too deeply. For the record, Jay Sean and Akon have no comparison to freestyle. I realize there are breakbeat fanatics here who are always looking for a freestyle resurrection, but that beat pattern was done way before freestyle. Early hip hop was uptempo (It's Tricky, What People Do For Money, Supersonic, Looking for the Perfect Beat) along with the Breakdancing Anthems (Afro Rican, Midnight Star, Twilight 22, Cybotron). Those are the REAL pioneers and influences of the 90's Breakbeat Era. When I hear Ghost Town DJ's, Planet Soul or one of the rip offs, I don't hear any Expose or Stevie B influences. I hear the overlooked examples I just mentioned. If anything, Todays Uptempo R/B (Flo Rida, Ciara, even BEP) can also compared to the Electro Funk of the early 80's. Trying to name it freestyle is silly. It's like trying to search for current rock bands that can tour with Ratt or Pretty Poison.

Thank you. This post is definitely on point
 
CHRles said:
Thank you. This post is definitely on point

Except for the "Pretty Poison" part (must have had freestyle on the brain!). I meant the terrible hair band "Poison." How ironic two 80's artists from different genre's have similar names. To me, freestyle is a novelty piece of the 80's (just like Hair Bands). The sampling of "Planet Rock" started way before the 90's as well. "Don't Stop the Rock", "It's Automatic", "What People Do For Money", and "The Party has just begun" all have the same pattern as Afrika Bambaataa. It may not be an exact sample, but its the same idea.
 
I am going to do a shameless plug here but I want you all to tune in to Party Radio USA this Sunday (October 24th) at 9PM (Eastern). I do an interview with Judy Torres. Somewhere around the midpoint, we talk about the issue regarding freestyle.....

All I can say is...you DO NOT want to miss this, especially in light of this discussion.
 
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