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4 Local Clear Channel employees to be let go!

Ssummers said:
I respect a lot of your views, Big A, but I get the feeling that you are more comfortable coloring within the lines while some of us occasionally color outside of them. It works for me. I cannot speak for others.

Once again, that's fine for your own personal life, but broadcasting is a licensed activity, governed by laws and regulations. That requires "coloring within the lines." There are laws and regulations that govern their conduct in a disaster. And they don't have to wait for federal officials to show up. There are lots of local emergency officials already designated as primary responders, and they're the ones who will co-ordinate with broadcasters to lay out a plan.

In 2008, some broadcasters in Galveston reported that they were told to shut down their radio station and evacuate during Hurricane Ike. The manager of the station was told that if he didn't evacuate, he'd be arrested.
 
Ssummers said:
And regardless of where the "responsibility" for anything resides, "initiative" and "drive" and "motivation to succeed/excel/survive" have been qualities that promote forward movement/progress/survival. Blindly relying on someone or some entity to merely fulfill their responsibility in times of crisis, blissfully ignorant of the consequences if they don't fulfill them, courts stagnation at best, a far deeper crisis at worst.

I respect a lot of your views, Big A, but I get the feeling that you are more comfortable coloring within the lines while some of us occasionally color outside of them. It works for me. I cannot speak for others.

Well stated Sir. Thank you.
 
TheBigA said:
Once again, that's fine for your own personal life, but broadcasting is a licensed activity, governed by laws and regulations.That requires "coloring within the lines."


And yet those laws change on occasion whenever those of us who color outside the "lines" do so in a manner that necessitates moving those lines to accomodate innovation. The "lines" never get moved by those who color within them.

TheBigA said:
There are laws and regulations that govern their conduct in a disaster. And they don't have to wait for federal officials to show up. There are lots of local emergency officials already designated as primary responders, and they're the ones who will co-ordinate with broadcasters to lay out a plan.

And again I say, they'll be using those broadcasters to inform, ergo, they are an integral part of that plan, not an accessory to it.

TheBigA said:
In 2008, some broadcasters in Galveston reported that they were told to shut down their radio station and evacuate during Hurricane Ike. The manager of the station was told that if he didn't evacuate, he'd be arrested.

Which is myopic, in my opinion, but my opinion doesn't count. As I have already said, depending on the area, there are those local emergency officials who, "coloring outside the lines" themselves, opt to work with local broadcasters to inform the public during dire circumstances.
 
Ssummers said:
And yet those laws change on occasion whenever those of us who color outside the "lines" do so in a manner that necessitates moving those lines to accomodate innovation. The "lines" never get moved by those who color within them.

I can't think of examples in FCC laws where that's been the case. At least, not in a positive way. Maybe you can give an example.

I know that broadcasters have tried to change the Homeland Security Act, and make it more inclusive of broadcasters, but I'm not aware that they've been successful. They've also been campaigning to get FM chips in phones activated (not that it would help in the situation you describe), but that too has also been met with opposition.

Ssummers said:
And again I say, they'll be using those broadcasters to inform, ergo, they are an integral part of that plan, not an accessory to it.

Maybe. One of the complaints from broadcasters during several recent emergencies was that they in fact were NOT integral, that emergency officials sidestepped broadcasters and went directly to the public. It's not a requirement, and broadcasters aren't always informed. Police in particular are concerned that broadcasters are more focused on getting a big story than doing what's best for the public. No surprise...it's a turf war.

My point in all of this is to know that the laws have changed, and people can't expect broadcasters to operate as though the laws haven't changed. This is an ongoing process, and is different from market to market, depending on the relationship the broadcasters create with local officials before the disaster happens.
 
Regarding the laws having changed, we are in firm agreement. Yes, I bemoan deregulation and the advent of the decline of radio(and radio quality), in general, but I am also on record as being a realist who understands that radio is a business. That said, I am also one of those radio people who, as corny as it sounds, still wants to find ways to make radio compelling...not necessarily to secure the "big story" as you mentioned(which I understand...there are certain circles in our business who strive to make radio cartoonish and sensationalistic to the point of absurdity), but to give people a viable reason to use their time listening to me and/or my station rather than spend it on any one of hundreds, if not thousands of other compelling choices available to them. That is the game I am in. That is the game I avidly play every day. Part of that endeavor not only is helped by "coloring outside the lines" (to use our already tired phrase yet again, lol), it is a requirement if I/we are to succeed. I'm not looking to be a martyr, and I know I'm not going to get rich, but then, anyone who expects to get rich by talking on the radio is pissing up a rope. My current job affords me the luxury of being able to pay my bills, and I am thankful for that. And I also have the luxury of having an owner who LOVES that I strive to provide compelling radio, serve the community and think outside the box...so, I am luckier than most. So, I will continue to do radio the only way I know how..and when I fall down, I'm going to get back up and go at it again. Regardless of the state of radio, any listeners or potential listeners deserve no less.
 
both radio and tv are guilty. go to our websites for the latest (when we're not here which is most of the time). has nothing to do with regulations or relationships. it has to do with reality.
 
That would be great if it did not happen. I read him saying the board is not happy, but there is nothing saying they undid the approval of the firings. He has stated it will be delayed till consultants can pick the names-maybe another month or so. . For all our friends at CC let's hope they don't pull the trigger at all due the blowback CC is feeling. I can believe morale is low with the hatchet hanging in the air.
 
...and...NOWWWWWWWWWWW,...back to the original topic!
Currently, if anyone knows the names of the four...soon to be wrongfully ankled by CC,...no one is talking.
It doesn't soften the blow, but myself, and a few other members of The Think Tank see the pink slips arriving shortly after the 4th. Reportedly, a team of Consultants were hired to meet with local management, and decide who stays, and who goes.
This act, and the money that funded it, was designed to misdirect "The Boney Finger Of Blame". However, as we all know, The Finger, eventually makes its way through all smoke, and mirrors. The loss of your job is a bad happening, in general.
However, loosing employment, in this manner of practice, is beyond practical reasoning.
 
First of the change of topic was great, lets start a new thread with it and keep going. Two if this thread stays up long enough and lord knows how long that might take then I guess there is a chance that it might come true. lets hope not.
 
Gatekeeper007 said:
First of the change of topic was great, lets start a new thread with it and keep going. Two if this thread stays up long enough and lord knows how long that might take then I guess there is a chance that it might come true. lets hope not.

All 624 layoffs will be completed by Friday July 26th per Colliano column today. 4 per market.
 
jerry will back peddle again before july 26 that is how he operates I guess you are never wrong when you do that he is happy that people who believe him spread his gospel.
 
freqdev said:
jerry will back peddle again before july 26 that is how he operates I guess you are never wrong when you do that he is happy that people who believe him spread his gospel.
From what I can tell, he simply gets people to give him insider "tips" for which he may pull a name out of a hat for $100, and then sells subscriptions to his site to read his "inside information". Of course, he adds in his own advice on what station owners should do. All delivered in such a hyped, breathless delivery it's enough to make an editor of a gossip magazine blush.
 
The answer to this is if it stays on the forum long enough then yes it could come true. If I said Christmas was coming and it stays on the forum for four months then yes it was true. This may take a little longer but you get the point.
 
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