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40 years of 91X

Hats off to 91X!

The very early portion of the A to X...YZ music log already looks amazing.

Great stuff for sure. I wish some other stations out there would put forth the same level of effort in playlist curation.
 
Maybe one of you folks can clarify...was it true that in the early days that 91X was programmed by the same people that operated KROQ ??
Rick Carroll, who programmed KROQ, was 91X's consultant.

 
And one other comment, something only radio geeks like most of us would know or even notice, during the early years I remember that 91X was consistently referred to on the air as 91XFM, and then at one point the "FM" was dropped, never to be used again. I always wondered about that.
 
And one other comment, something only radio geeks like most of us would know or even notice, during the early years I remember that 91X was consistently referred to on the air as 91XFM, and then at one point the "FM" was dropped, never to be used again. I always wondered about that.
Might have been to differentiate themselves from Magic 91 (KMJC, 910 AM) in El Cajon, which had a moment between 1977 and 1979 before going religion in 1980.

Magic's first book, spring 1977, had the station debut in third overall, behind KOGO (swollen with Padres numbers) and KGB-FM. Magic had a 6.6 to B-100's 5.6 and KCBQ's 5.5.

In the Spring 1979 book, Magic 91 and 91X were only 2/10ths of a point apart...a 4.6 and a 4.8, respectively, with 91X 6th overall and Magic 91 7th.

 
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Maybe one of you folks can clarify...was it true that in the early days that 91X was programmed by the same people that operated KROQ ??

Not initially.

91X ("where 'X' marks the rock") was launched in August 1978 as a rock-leaning CHR (what the industry at the time called "Rock-40") under Gene Knight as PD/afternoon drive. (Yes, the same Gene Knight who was at KCBQ, and B100, and most recently at KYXY.) And yes, it was called 91X-FM then.

Rick Carroll installed the "Rock of the 80s" format in January 1983 -- as Kat said at the outset of this thread -- after his incredible success at KROQ. Which makes me wonder why the station is celebrating 40 years now. Either it was 40 years since elevator music XETRA-FM became 91X (which would make it 2018) or it's 40 years since the New Wave format launched (which would be next year).
 
I'm guessing that it's an opportunity to start the celebration
early and continue throughout the year.
91X is "kicking off their 40th year" of the format,
culminating in their 40th anniversary in January 2023.
 
I'm guessing that it's an opportunity to start the celebration
early and continue throughout the year.
91X is "kicking off their 40th year" of the format,
culminating in their 40th anniversary in January 2023.
You are correct. The A to X..YZ is the kickoff to a year long celebration. They apparently have a number of listener appreciation events lined up leading to the actual 40 year mark in January 2023.
 
Makes as much sense as any other plausible explanation!
 
Might have been to differentiate themselves from Magic 91 (KMJC, 910 AM) in El Cajon, which had a moment between 1977 and 1979 before going religion in 1980.

Well, I figure why not ask the guy who was there, so I reconnected with Gene Knight and asked him. His answer:

I can't remember for sure, but I think that since John Lynch was at B-100 before 91X, and Bobby Rich, also of B-100, was consulting, it just made sense to all of us to have the FM as part of our name. When we first named 91X-FM in 1978, AM radio was still a big factor in the SD market, so having FM in our name helped people find us (as a new station). I really don't recall much concern with Magic 91. Our main competitors when we signed on in September 1978 were KGB, B-100, and KPRI.


Gene also pointed out that their sister station, Beautiful Music XETRA/690, was one of the big AMs in San Diego at the time.

Hadn't talked with him for many, many years, but he was happy to hear from me and to answer the question. :)
 
Well, I figure why not ask the guy who was there, so I reconnected with Gene Knight and asked him. His answer:

I can't remember for sure, but I think that since John Lynch was at B-100 before 91X, and Bobby Rich, also of B-100, was consulting, it just made sense to all of us to have the FM as part of our name. When we first named 91X-FM in 1978, AM radio was still a big factor in the SD market, so having FM in our name helped people find us (as a new station). I really don't recall much concern with Magic 91. Our main competitors when we signed on in September 1978 were KGB, B-100, and KPRI.

Gene also pointed out that their sister station, Beautiful Music XETRA/690, was one of the big AMs in San Diego at the time.

Hadn't talked with him for many, many years, but he was happy to hear from me and to answer the question. :)
Good to hear from Gene, K.M. and thanks for that.

But as a practical matter, pretend it’s you. You’re putting rock music onto 91 FM in a market where, in the last year, 91 AM has just made a big splash and helped force KCBQ to go AC.

You also know listener attention and retention—”Magic 91…91X…is that the same station or what?” And some of those people are gonna get diaries.

You are absolutely gonna stick “FM” onto that just to be sure.
 
But as a practical matter, pretend it’s you. You’re putting rock music onto 91 FM in a market where, in the last year, 91 AM has just made a big splash and helped force KCBQ to go AC.

You also know listener attention and retention—”Magic 91…91X…is that the same station or what?” And some of those people are gonna get diaries.

You are absolutely gonna stick “FM” onto that just to be sure.

Maybe one of us needs to ask Bobby Rich if that was what he was thinking!
 
Maybe one of us needs to ask Bobby Rich if that was what he was thinking!
Wasn’t my question, KM. We know what 44-year old memories are like. Nobody’s taking notes at the time. My entire point is logic. Given the recent and ongoing success of Magic 91 at that time, going with “91X” alone is taking a big chance in recall (which is what diaries were based on) and the easy fix is to add “FM”.
 
Might have been to differentiate themselves from Magic 91 (KMJC, 910 AM) in El Cajon, which had a moment between 1977 and 1979 before going religion in 1980.

Magic's first book, spring 1977, had the station debut in third overall, behind KOGO (swollen with Padres numbers) and KGB-FM. Magic had a 6.6 to B-100's 5.6 and KCBQ's 5.5.

In the Spring 1979 book, Magic 91 and 91X were only 2/10ths of a point apart...a 4.6 and a 4.8, respectively, with 91X 6th overall and Magic 91 7th.

That is correct. The "FM" was emphasized since Magic 91 was on AM. If someone just wrote "91" down in a diary, it most likely would have credited to Magic 91 AM.
 
Good to hear from Gene, K.M. and thanks for that.

But as a practical matter, pretend it’s you. You’re putting rock music onto 91 FM in a market where, in the last year, 91 AM has just made a big splash and helped force KCBQ to go AC.

You also know listener attention and retention—”Magic 91…91X…is that the same station or what?” And some of those people are gonna get diaries.

You are absolutely gonna stick “FM” onto that just to be sure.
Seems amazing that even back in the day a relatively small signal like 910, which I remember as KDEO, could knockoff a KCBQ and cause 1170 to change formats, of course KCBQ would eventually go Country. I spent a lot of time in North SD County, and 910 was weak in places like Escondido and not even available in Oceanside (910's null toward KOXR Oxnard goes right through Oceanside - you literally hear both stations fighting it out). Not to mention no signal anywhere in North County at night. KCBQ and KGB were at least listenable.
 
Seems amazing that even back in the day a relatively small signal like 910, which I remember as KDEO, could knockoff a KCBQ and cause 1170 to change formats, of course KCBQ would eventually go Country. I spent a lot of time in North SD County, and 910 was weak in places like Escondido and not even available in Oceanside (910's null toward KOXR Oxnard goes right through Oceanside - you literally hear both stations fighting it out). Not to mention no signal anywhere in North County at night. KCBQ and KGB were at least listenable.
Yeah, but San Diego was a town where the new kid almost always debuted big. In the case of KCBQ, it was a one-two punch---they were weakened by B-100, then along came Magic 91. As late as 1980, KGB was able to rebrand itself as 13K and do well for a year or two---and The Mighty 690 did very well when it first launched as a CHR on AM in the 80s.

45 years ago (which is what we're talking here), North County wasn't nearly as populous, and I'm not at all sure Oceanside and Escondido were even included in the metro San Diego ratings book.
 
Yeah, but San Diego was a town where the new kid almost always debuted big. In the case of KCBQ, it was a one-two punch---they were weakened by B-100, then along came Magic 91. As late as 1980, KGB was able to rebrand itself as 13K and do well for a year or two---and The Mighty 690 did very well when it first launched as a CHR on AM in the 80s.

45 years ago (which is what we're talking here), North County wasn't nearly as populous, and I'm not at all sure Oceanside and Escondido were even included in the metro San Diego ratings book.
Indeed, as I understand it at one point in the distant past, North County was being considered as a separate but supplemental market to San Diego as apparently for a short time the most listened to stations were Oceanside's 1320 KUDE and Escondido's KOWN 1450.

I should add that at that time KUDE's daytime programing was similar to that of LA's KMPC or SD's KOGO or KFMB. NIghtimes on KUDE they played the same Top 40 music that you would hear on KCBQ or KGB.
 
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Indeed, as I understand it at one point in the distant past, North County was being considered as a separate but supplemental market to San Diego as apparently for a short time the most listened to stations were Oceanside's 1320 KUDE and Escondido's KOWN 1450.
At the time, I was over 3,200 miles away from Saint Diego in Saint John... so don't remember.
 
That is correct. The "FM" was emphasized since Magic 91 was on AM. If someone just wrote "91" down in a diary, it most likely would have credited to Magic 91 AM.

I guess I will have to ask Bobby Rich after all. Gene's statement hasn't stopped "statements of fact" like the above.
 
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