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everclear75
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Sorry folks. That was said out of frustration. : ) Carry on. Nothing to see here...<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by everclear75 on 09/02/05 03:08 PM.</FONT></P>
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Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> after hearing that the Florida courts decided to pull Terri
> Shiavo's feeding tube.
>
> Congress convened an emergency session that evening to pass
> legislation to try to keep her alive. It was all done in the
> blink of an eye.
>
> However, for the great disaster and tragedy in New Orleans,
> Bush just played golf and went to a fund raiser in
> California. Congress waited until 4 days AFTER the tragedy
> to take any action.
>
> The city of New Orleans is now in a state of complete
> anarchy after going 4 days with no food and water, so now
> we're sending in 300 sharp shooters with instructions to
> shoot-to-kill if the people act up.
>
> Even the most die-hard Bush supporter must be hanging his
> head in disgust at what is happening to this country.
>
Does Bush have to personally take an assault rifle to New Orleans and personally shoot the looters dead? The governor of Louisiana is to blame for this - Bush gave her the ability to have the personnel there to control the anarchy, but she chooses to tell the looters, "we have people who will arrest you and you will be prosecuted." Hell no! The response should be, "we will shoot to kill ANYONE we see looting or any other miscreants!" Until you clean out the vermin that has taken over New Orleans, you will continue to have this mess where things can't be fixed.
> after hearing that the Florida courts decided to pull Terri
> Shiavo's feeding tube.
>
> Congress convened an emergency session that evening to pass
> legislation to try to keep her alive. It was all done in the
> blink of an eye.
>
> However, for the great disaster and tragedy in New Orleans,
> Bush just played golf and went to a fund raiser in
> California. Congress waited until 4 days AFTER the tragedy
> to take any action.
>
> The city of New Orleans is now in a state of complete
> anarchy after going 4 days with no food and water, so now
> we're sending in 300 sharp shooters with instructions to
> shoot-to-kill if the people act up.
>
> Even the most die-hard Bush supporter must be hanging his
> head in disgust at what is happening to this country.
>
Does Bush have to personally take an assault rifle to New Orleans and personally shoot the looters dead? The governor of Louisiana is to blame for this - Bush gave her the ability to have the personnel there to control the anarchy, but she chooses to tell the looters, "we have people who will arrest you and you will be prosecuted." Hell no! The response should be, "we will shoot to kill ANYONE we see looting or any other miscreants!" Until you clean out the vermin that has taken over New Orleans, you will continue to have this mess where things can't be fixed.
M
mcammack
Guest
Hey Michael Moore
> > after hearing that the Florida courts decided to pull
> Terri
> > Shiavo's feeding tube.
> >
> > Congress convened an emergency session that evening to
> pass
> > legislation to try to keep her alive. It was all done in
> the
> > blink of an eye.
> >
> > However, for the great disaster and tragedy in New
> Orleans,
> > Bush just played golf and went to a fund raiser in
> > California. Congress waited until 4 days AFTER the tragedy
>
> > to take any action.
> >
> > The city of New Orleans is now in a state of complete
> > anarchy after going 4 days with no food and water, so now
> > we're sending in 300 sharp shooters with instructions to
> > shoot-to-kill if the people act up.
> >
> > Even the most die-hard Bush supporter must be hanging his
> > head in disgust at what is happening to this country.
> >
>
Is that you hiding behind the name everclear?
> > after hearing that the Florida courts decided to pull
> Terri
> > Shiavo's feeding tube.
> >
> > Congress convened an emergency session that evening to
> pass
> > legislation to try to keep her alive. It was all done in
> the
> > blink of an eye.
> >
> > However, for the great disaster and tragedy in New
> Orleans,
> > Bush just played golf and went to a fund raiser in
> > California. Congress waited until 4 days AFTER the tragedy
>
> > to take any action.
> >
> > The city of New Orleans is now in a state of complete
> > anarchy after going 4 days with no food and water, so now
> > we're sending in 300 sharp shooters with instructions to
> > shoot-to-kill if the people act up.
> >
> > Even the most die-hard Bush supporter must be hanging his
> > head in disgust at what is happening to this country.
> >
>
Is that you hiding behind the name everclear?
R
radiodial
Guest
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
>
> However, for the great disaster and tragedy in New Orleans,
> Bush just played golf and went to a fund raiser in
> California. Congress waited until 4 days AFTER the tragedy
> to take any action.
>
Hey buddy,
Hurricanes are handled on the local and state level. It is up to the State Governor to bring in the Feds if needed.
The evacuation was a MANDATORY EVACUATION! Bush came on radio and TV telling the citizens to EVACUATE.
I am a liberal, but a rational one, and blaming Bush for everything under the Sun is NOT going to help our party. It just makes us look like idiots to rational thinking people.
JMHO
>
> However, for the great disaster and tragedy in New Orleans,
> Bush just played golf and went to a fund raiser in
> California. Congress waited until 4 days AFTER the tragedy
> to take any action.
>
Hey buddy,
Hurricanes are handled on the local and state level. It is up to the State Governor to bring in the Feds if needed.
The evacuation was a MANDATORY EVACUATION! Bush came on radio and TV telling the citizens to EVACUATE.
I am a liberal, but a rational one, and blaming Bush for everything under the Sun is NOT going to help our party. It just makes us look like idiots to rational thinking people.
JMHO
J
jdbanks
Guest
Re: Hey Michael Moore
For the record, many of the people did not have the means to evacuate even if it were mandatory. If you don't have money, a ride or a place to go, how do you evacuate?
And lets make a distinction between looting and surviving. If someone's going after TVs and electronics or something, then yes action should be taken. But people looting stores for food, water, diapers, medicine, etc. should not be condemed.
I keep hearing the words patience and understanding and help is coming. The fact is when people are dying around you, you're suffering, your children and family are suffering and you don't have information and no help has come in 4 days, patience is the last thing you'll have.
I don't care about the politics of the situation or blaming whomever right now. The fact is those people need help and what's been done, no matter how hard they say they're working, it isn't enough. The ball has been dropped here on too many fronts. From planning to reaction to communication. The words of most officials are simply to help calm the public and to cover their ass.
There's no way to completely prepare for a disaster of this magnitude and to prevent all the problems and the suffering. But they could have been a damn site better prepared. It's just a shame and a tradgedy.
-J.Banks-
> > > after hearing that the Florida courts decided to pull
> > Terri
> > > Shiavo's feeding tube.
> > >
> > > Congress convened an emergency session that evening to
> > pass
> > > legislation to try to keep her alive. It was all done in
>
> > the
> > > blink of an eye.
> > >
> > > However, for the great disaster and tragedy in New
> > Orleans,
> > > Bush just played golf and went to a fund raiser in
> > > California. Congress waited until 4 days AFTER the
> tragedy
> >
> > > to take any action.
> > >
> > > The city of New Orleans is now in a state of complete
> > > anarchy after going 4 days with no food and water, so
> now
> > > we're sending in 300 sharp shooters with instructions to
>
> > > shoot-to-kill if the people act up.
> > >
> > > Even the most die-hard Bush supporter must be hanging
> his
> > > head in disgust at what is happening to this country.
> > >
> >
>
>
> Is that you hiding behind the name everclear?
>
For the record, many of the people did not have the means to evacuate even if it were mandatory. If you don't have money, a ride or a place to go, how do you evacuate?
And lets make a distinction between looting and surviving. If someone's going after TVs and electronics or something, then yes action should be taken. But people looting stores for food, water, diapers, medicine, etc. should not be condemed.
I keep hearing the words patience and understanding and help is coming. The fact is when people are dying around you, you're suffering, your children and family are suffering and you don't have information and no help has come in 4 days, patience is the last thing you'll have.
I don't care about the politics of the situation or blaming whomever right now. The fact is those people need help and what's been done, no matter how hard they say they're working, it isn't enough. The ball has been dropped here on too many fronts. From planning to reaction to communication. The words of most officials are simply to help calm the public and to cover their ass.
There's no way to completely prepare for a disaster of this magnitude and to prevent all the problems and the suffering. But they could have been a damn site better prepared. It's just a shame and a tradgedy.
-J.Banks-
> > > after hearing that the Florida courts decided to pull
> > Terri
> > > Shiavo's feeding tube.
> > >
> > > Congress convened an emergency session that evening to
> > pass
> > > legislation to try to keep her alive. It was all done in
>
> > the
> > > blink of an eye.
> > >
> > > However, for the great disaster and tragedy in New
> > Orleans,
> > > Bush just played golf and went to a fund raiser in
> > > California. Congress waited until 4 days AFTER the
> tragedy
> >
> > > to take any action.
> > >
> > > The city of New Orleans is now in a state of complete
> > > anarchy after going 4 days with no food and water, so
> now
> > > we're sending in 300 sharp shooters with instructions to
>
> > > shoot-to-kill if the people act up.
> > >
> > > Even the most die-hard Bush supporter must be hanging
> his
> > > head in disgust at what is happening to this country.
> > >
> >
>
>
> Is that you hiding behind the name everclear?
>
D
dabomb
Guest
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
A figurehead should at least be able to perform the duties of a figurehead. If Dubya made the plea for donations as strongly as he did for Iraq, this nation would rally around him. Congressional elections are right around the corner. It appears his cockiness didn't learn from the mistakes of the father.
>
A figurehead should at least be able to perform the duties of a figurehead. If Dubya made the plea for donations as strongly as he did for Iraq, this nation would rally around him. Congressional elections are right around the corner. It appears his cockiness didn't learn from the mistakes of the father.
>
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> A figurehead should at least be able to perform the duties
> of a figurehead. If Dubya made the plea for donations as
> strongly as he did for Iraq, this nation would rally around
> him. Congressional elections are right around the corner.
> It appears his cockiness didn't learn from the mistakes of
> the father.
> >
>
I was glad that he was here so quickly with emergency aid and strong words of encouragement after Tropical Storm Allison, but we only lost 17 lives and one weekend of mobility during the height of the flooding. Tragic that any lives and property were lost, but a drop in the proverbial bucket compared to the thousands dead and dying by the hour in New Orleans.
Just an observation, nothing more.
> A figurehead should at least be able to perform the duties
> of a figurehead. If Dubya made the plea for donations as
> strongly as he did for Iraq, this nation would rally around
> him. Congressional elections are right around the corner.
> It appears his cockiness didn't learn from the mistakes of
> the father.
> >
>
I was glad that he was here so quickly with emergency aid and strong words of encouragement after Tropical Storm Allison, but we only lost 17 lives and one weekend of mobility during the height of the flooding. Tragic that any lives and property were lost, but a drop in the proverbial bucket compared to the thousands dead and dying by the hour in New Orleans.
Just an observation, nothing more.
R
radiodial
Guest
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> A figurehead should at least be able to perform the duties
> of a figurehead. If Dubya made the plea for donations as
> strongly as he did for Iraq, this nation would rally around
> him. Congressional elections are right around the corner.
> It appears his cockiness didn't learn from the mistakes of
> the father.
> >
>
Bush came on TV and Radio before the storm and addressed the citizens of New Orleans to evacuate. There was a MANDATORY EVACUATION in effect by the mayor.
The City and State should have been using school busses to get those people out before the storm hit. They could have taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they didn't is beyond me!
> A figurehead should at least be able to perform the duties
> of a figurehead. If Dubya made the plea for donations as
> strongly as he did for Iraq, this nation would rally around
> him. Congressional elections are right around the corner.
> It appears his cockiness didn't learn from the mistakes of
> the father.
> >
>
Bush came on TV and Radio before the storm and addressed the citizens of New Orleans to evacuate. There was a MANDATORY EVACUATION in effect by the mayor.
The City and State should have been using school busses to get those people out before the storm hit. They could have taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they didn't is beyond me!
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> Bush came on TV and Radio before the storm and addressed the
> citizens of New Orleans to evacuate. There was a MANDATORY
> EVACUATION in effect by the mayor.
>
> The City and State should have been using school busses to
> get those people out before the storm hit. They could have
> taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they didn't is
> beyond me!
Sure would have been a lot easier and safer to transport the poor, infirm, and low-income elderly to some other location BEFORE it came to this, wouldn't it have? Last week would have been good, when the rich folk were splitting the scene in their cars, driving off and leaving the rest to fend for themselves.
I've been reading Interdictor's LiveJournal, and although it's sketchy and not working properly, he's got a live cam feed that's been absolutely horrifying to watch over the last few days and nights. Right now it's of a building down the street from where he and his co-workers have been holed up. The building is burning. Rumors are flying all over the 'Net about why someone would set this and other fires---perhaps for attention, perhaps it was accidentally set, or perhaps (as many seem to think) it was a purely criminal act with far deeper motives or implications than we want to believe. Either way, it's got to be like the End Of Days there. Everyone we've seen on the streets up until now, from the cam and still shots that the DirectNic guys are taking from the window above, is potentially a zombie---the walking dead, either predator or victim.
Interdictor is now reporting troops finally arrived a little while ago to quell the area's violence on his street so that food and water supply trucks could move in. Hooray!
God, I'll be glad when order's restored and the healing can begin.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by radiomojo1 on 09/02/05 06:13 PM.</FONT></P>
> Bush came on TV and Radio before the storm and addressed the
> citizens of New Orleans to evacuate. There was a MANDATORY
> EVACUATION in effect by the mayor.
>
> The City and State should have been using school busses to
> get those people out before the storm hit. They could have
> taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they didn't is
> beyond me!
Sure would have been a lot easier and safer to transport the poor, infirm, and low-income elderly to some other location BEFORE it came to this, wouldn't it have? Last week would have been good, when the rich folk were splitting the scene in their cars, driving off and leaving the rest to fend for themselves.
I've been reading Interdictor's LiveJournal, and although it's sketchy and not working properly, he's got a live cam feed that's been absolutely horrifying to watch over the last few days and nights. Right now it's of a building down the street from where he and his co-workers have been holed up. The building is burning. Rumors are flying all over the 'Net about why someone would set this and other fires---perhaps for attention, perhaps it was accidentally set, or perhaps (as many seem to think) it was a purely criminal act with far deeper motives or implications than we want to believe. Either way, it's got to be like the End Of Days there. Everyone we've seen on the streets up until now, from the cam and still shots that the DirectNic guys are taking from the window above, is potentially a zombie---the walking dead, either predator or victim.
Interdictor is now reporting troops finally arrived a little while ago to quell the area's violence on his street so that food and water supply trucks could move in. Hooray!
God, I'll be glad when order's restored and the healing can begin.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by radiomojo1 on 09/02/05 06:13 PM.</FONT></P>
R
radiodial
Guest
Re: Hey Michael Moore
> For the record, many of the people did not have the means to
> evacuate even if it were mandatory. If you don't have
> money, a ride or a place to go, how do you evacuate?
>
The biggest error I see is that the City and State did not use school busses during the mandatory evacuation to get the citizens to safety at other schools throughout the state. These schools have the facilities to feed (cafeteria), bathe (gym lockers and showers), and house (gynasium and class rooms) the citizens.
If the City and State had done that there would not be the magnitude of mess that we now see.
> For the record, many of the people did not have the means to
> evacuate even if it were mandatory. If you don't have
> money, a ride or a place to go, how do you evacuate?
>
The biggest error I see is that the City and State did not use school busses during the mandatory evacuation to get the citizens to safety at other schools throughout the state. These schools have the facilities to feed (cafeteria), bathe (gym lockers and showers), and house (gynasium and class rooms) the citizens.
If the City and State had done that there would not be the magnitude of mess that we now see.
R
russhaney
Guest
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> > A figurehead should at least be able to perform the duties
>
> > of a figurehead. If Dubya made the plea for donations as
> > strongly as he did for Iraq, this nation would rally
> around
> > him. Congressional elections are right around the corner.
>
> > It appears his cockiness didn't learn from the mistakes of
>
> > the father.
> > >
> >
>
> Bush came on TV and Radio before the storm and addressed the
> citizens of New Orleans to evacuate. There was a MANDATORY
> EVACUATION in effect by the mayor.
>
> The City and State should have been using school busses to
> get those people out before the storm hit. They could have
> taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they didn't is
> beyond me!
>
Lets also not forget the fact that he declared LA, MS, and AL NATURAL DISASTER areas 3 days before the hurricane hit.. to get things going faster.
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> > A figurehead should at least be able to perform the duties
>
> > of a figurehead. If Dubya made the plea for donations as
> > strongly as he did for Iraq, this nation would rally
> around
> > him. Congressional elections are right around the corner.
>
> > It appears his cockiness didn't learn from the mistakes of
>
> > the father.
> > >
> >
>
> Bush came on TV and Radio before the storm and addressed the
> citizens of New Orleans to evacuate. There was a MANDATORY
> EVACUATION in effect by the mayor.
>
> The City and State should have been using school busses to
> get those people out before the storm hit. They could have
> taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they didn't is
> beyond me!
>
Lets also not forget the fact that he declared LA, MS, and AL NATURAL DISASTER areas 3 days before the hurricane hit.. to get things going faster.
<P ID="signature">______________
www.1club.fm</P>
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
>
> Lets also not forget the fact that he declared LA, MS, and
> AL NATURAL DISASTER areas 3 days before the hurricane hit..
> to get things going faster.
>
So, if Bush knew these areas needed to be declared disaster areas 3 days (72 hours) before the hurricane hit, how come mayor Naigel and governor Blanco didn't know it until last Saturday? The emergency "plan" developed for New Orleans stated that it took 72 hours to fully evacuate the city, which didn't start until about 48 hours before the hurricane hit.
Hopefully New Orleans and Louisiana will learn from this, be better prepared, and have better political leadership when this happens again.
>
> Lets also not forget the fact that he declared LA, MS, and
> AL NATURAL DISASTER areas 3 days before the hurricane hit..
> to get things going faster.
>
So, if Bush knew these areas needed to be declared disaster areas 3 days (72 hours) before the hurricane hit, how come mayor Naigel and governor Blanco didn't know it until last Saturday? The emergency "plan" developed for New Orleans stated that it took 72 hours to fully evacuate the city, which didn't start until about 48 hours before the hurricane hit.
Hopefully New Orleans and Louisiana will learn from this, be better prepared, and have better political leadership when this happens again.
R
radiodial
Guest
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> >
> > Bush came on TV and Radio before the storm and addressed
> > the citizens of New Orleans to evacuate. There was a
> > MANDATORY EVACUATION in effect by the mayor.
> >
> > The City and State should have been using school busses to
> > get those people out before the storm hit. They could
> > have taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they
> > didn't is beyond me!
> >
>
> Lets also not forget the fact that he declared LA, MS, and
> AL NATURAL DISASTER areas 3 days before the hurricane hit..
> to get things going faster.
>
Yes, thanks for adding that.
I am not sure what people expected more of Bush other than to put a Superman cape on and fly into the storm to stop it. I am Democrat and this Bush bashing is downright embarrassing for me. The lunatic fringe has high-jacked our party and unfortunately seem to bark the loudest and get the most attention which in turn makes us all look like complete drooling morons.
> >
> > Bush came on TV and Radio before the storm and addressed
> > the citizens of New Orleans to evacuate. There was a
> > MANDATORY EVACUATION in effect by the mayor.
> >
> > The City and State should have been using school busses to
> > get those people out before the storm hit. They could
> > have taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they
> > didn't is beyond me!
> >
>
> Lets also not forget the fact that he declared LA, MS, and
> AL NATURAL DISASTER areas 3 days before the hurricane hit..
> to get things going faster.
>
Yes, thanks for adding that.
I am not sure what people expected more of Bush other than to put a Superman cape on and fly into the storm to stop it. I am Democrat and this Bush bashing is downright embarrassing for me. The lunatic fringe has high-jacked our party and unfortunately seem to bark the loudest and get the most attention which in turn makes us all look like complete drooling morons.
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> Hurricanes are handled on the local and state level. It is
> up to the State Governor to bring in the Feds if needed.
>
> The evacuation was a MANDATORY EVACUATION! Bush came on
> radio and TV telling the citizens to EVACUATE.
>
> I am a liberal, but a rational one, and blaming Bush for
> everything under the Sun is NOT going to help our party. It
> just makes us look like idiots to rational thinking people.
>
>
> JMHO
>
I'll forgive you for your ignorance, but...
FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) and Homeland Security have assumed the role of and responsibility for disasters...natural and man-made...for more than a year.
As for the National Guard's state-by-state role of helping and protecting it's citizens...that only works when they're still withIN the US and not deployed to Iraq as the MAJORITY of front-line troops fighting that bogus "war".
Sorry...but, if you don't like the correct answer...don't raise the incorrect premise.
> Hurricanes are handled on the local and state level. It is
> up to the State Governor to bring in the Feds if needed.
>
> The evacuation was a MANDATORY EVACUATION! Bush came on
> radio and TV telling the citizens to EVACUATE.
>
> I am a liberal, but a rational one, and blaming Bush for
> everything under the Sun is NOT going to help our party. It
> just makes us look like idiots to rational thinking people.
>
>
> JMHO
>
I'll forgive you for your ignorance, but...
FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) and Homeland Security have assumed the role of and responsibility for disasters...natural and man-made...for more than a year.
As for the National Guard's state-by-state role of helping and protecting it's citizens...that only works when they're still withIN the US and not deployed to Iraq as the MAJORITY of front-line troops fighting that bogus "war".
Sorry...but, if you don't like the correct answer...don't raise the incorrect premise.
R
radiodial
Guest
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
>
> I'll forgive you for your ignorance, but...
>
> FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) and Homeland
> Security have assumed the role of and responsibility for
> disasters...natural and man-made...for more than a year.
>
> As for the National Guard's state-by-state role of helping
> and protecting it's citizens...that only works when they're
> still withIN the US and not deployed to Iraq as the MAJORITY
> of front-line troops fighting that bogus "war".
>
> Sorry...but, if you don't like the correct answer...don't
> raise the incorrect premise.
>
Correct answer? From you? Don't think so.
By law, the state must request the help of the FEDs. The Louisana governor did not until it was way too late. On the other hand, the Mississippi Governor did request FED assistance and the National Guard was in Mississippi on TUESDAY!
As for not enough troops or National Guard... we have over 1 million serving in the military and only 1/10th in Iraq.
Rational logic always wins over blind hatered.... every time...
>
> I'll forgive you for your ignorance, but...
>
> FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) and Homeland
> Security have assumed the role of and responsibility for
> disasters...natural and man-made...for more than a year.
>
> As for the National Guard's state-by-state role of helping
> and protecting it's citizens...that only works when they're
> still withIN the US and not deployed to Iraq as the MAJORITY
> of front-line troops fighting that bogus "war".
>
> Sorry...but, if you don't like the correct answer...don't
> raise the incorrect premise.
>
Correct answer? From you? Don't think so.
By law, the state must request the help of the FEDs. The Louisana governor did not until it was way too late. On the other hand, the Mississippi Governor did request FED assistance and the National Guard was in Mississippi on TUESDAY!
As for not enough troops or National Guard... we have over 1 million serving in the military and only 1/10th in Iraq.
Rational logic always wins over blind hatered.... every time...
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
The corruption and incompetence in Louisiana is legendary! Now all of a sudden President Bush is the problem. I think not.
I want you people to tell me how would everyone react if The President decide to throw out and bypass all of the local officials. And have the Feds take complete control. I happen to think it would have been a good idea, after the mayor of New Orleans ran away to Baton Rouge. The mayor did not even try to get those people out!! We have all seen the empty school buses still park in
New Orleans. The howls would have been heard on the moon.
Does anyone think; if this had happened in any other State it would have been handled this badly?
Tell the truth; is anyone impressed with the leadership in that State. Do you want the Gov. of Louisiana or the mayor of New Orleans running the show anywhere?
Sorry for the rant. But , local officials are the first responders and they fell like a house of cards.
We must help those people that came here. It is what we in the Greatest State in the union does;and that is HELP anyone who needs it
> >
> > I'll forgive you for your ignorance, but...
> >
> > FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) and Homeland
> > Security have assumed the role of and responsibility for
> > disasters...natural and man-made...for more than a year.
> >
> > As for the National Guard's state-by-state role of helping
>
> > and protecting it's citizens...that only works when
> they're
> > still withIN the US and not deployed to Iraq as the
> MAJORITY
> > of front-line troops fighting that bogus "war".
> >
> > Sorry...but, if you don't like the correct answer...don't
> > raise the incorrect premise.
> >
>
> Correct answer? From you? Don't think so.
>
> By law, the state must request the help of the FEDs. The
> Louisana governor did not until it was way too late. On the
> other hand, the Mississippi Governor did request FED
> assistance and the National Guard was in Mississippi on
> TUESDAY!
>
> As for not enough troops or National Guard... we have over 1
> million serving in the military and only 1/10th in Iraq.
>
> Rational logic always wins over blind hatered.... every
> time...
>
The corruption and incompetence in Louisiana is legendary! Now all of a sudden President Bush is the problem. I think not.
I want you people to tell me how would everyone react if The President decide to throw out and bypass all of the local officials. And have the Feds take complete control. I happen to think it would have been a good idea, after the mayor of New Orleans ran away to Baton Rouge. The mayor did not even try to get those people out!! We have all seen the empty school buses still park in
New Orleans. The howls would have been heard on the moon.
Does anyone think; if this had happened in any other State it would have been handled this badly?
Tell the truth; is anyone impressed with the leadership in that State. Do you want the Gov. of Louisiana or the mayor of New Orleans running the show anywhere?
Sorry for the rant. But , local officials are the first responders and they fell like a house of cards.
We must help those people that came here. It is what we in the Greatest State in the union does;and that is HELP anyone who needs it
> >
> > I'll forgive you for your ignorance, but...
> >
> > FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) and Homeland
> > Security have assumed the role of and responsibility for
> > disasters...natural and man-made...for more than a year.
> >
> > As for the National Guard's state-by-state role of helping
>
> > and protecting it's citizens...that only works when
> they're
> > still withIN the US and not deployed to Iraq as the
> MAJORITY
> > of front-line troops fighting that bogus "war".
> >
> > Sorry...but, if you don't like the correct answer...don't
> > raise the incorrect premise.
> >
>
> Correct answer? From you? Don't think so.
>
> By law, the state must request the help of the FEDs. The
> Louisana governor did not until it was way too late. On the
> other hand, the Mississippi Governor did request FED
> assistance and the National Guard was in Mississippi on
> TUESDAY!
>
> As for not enough troops or National Guard... we have over 1
> million serving in the military and only 1/10th in Iraq.
>
> Rational logic always wins over blind hatered.... every
> time...
>
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Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> The corruption and incompetence in Louisiana is legendary!
> Now all of a sudden President Bush is the problem. I think
> not.
>
> I want you people to tell me how would everyone react if The
> President decide to throw out and bypass all of the local
> officials. And have the Feds take complete control. I happen
> to think it would have been a good idea, after the mayor of
> New Orleans ran away to Baton Rouge. The mayor did not even
> try to get those people out!! We have all seen the empty
> school buses still park in
> New Orleans. The howls would have been heard on the moon.
>
>
> Does anyone think; if this had happened in any other State
> it would have been handled this badly?
> Tell the truth; is anyone impressed with the leadership in
> that State. Do you want the Gov. of Louisiana or the mayor
> of New Orleans running the show anywhere?
>
> Sorry for the rant. But , local officials are the first
> responders and they fell like a house of cards.
>
> We must help those people that came here. It is what we in
> the Greatest State in the union does;and that is HELP anyone
> who needs it
>
>
>
Excellent post !!
> The corruption and incompetence in Louisiana is legendary!
> Now all of a sudden President Bush is the problem. I think
> not.
>
> I want you people to tell me how would everyone react if The
> President decide to throw out and bypass all of the local
> officials. And have the Feds take complete control. I happen
> to think it would have been a good idea, after the mayor of
> New Orleans ran away to Baton Rouge. The mayor did not even
> try to get those people out!! We have all seen the empty
> school buses still park in
> New Orleans. The howls would have been heard on the moon.
>
>
> Does anyone think; if this had happened in any other State
> it would have been handled this badly?
> Tell the truth; is anyone impressed with the leadership in
> that State. Do you want the Gov. of Louisiana or the mayor
> of New Orleans running the show anywhere?
>
> Sorry for the rant. But , local officials are the first
> responders and they fell like a house of cards.
>
> We must help those people that came here. It is what we in
> the Greatest State in the union does;and that is HELP anyone
> who needs it
>
>
>
Excellent post !!
Re: Revisonist History
> By law, the state must request the help of the FEDs. The
> Louisana governor did not until it was way too late. On the
> other hand, the Mississippi Governor did request FED
> assistance and the National Guard was in Mississippi on
> TUESDAY!
Then you're forgetting something: LA gov Blanco requested federal assistance on Sunday 8/28/05. Here's a copy of the request: AP, some of the delays came from Washington:
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson offered Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco help from his state's National Guard last Sunday, the day before Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana. Blanco accepted, but paperwork needed to get the troops en route didn't come from Washington until late Thursday.
> Rational logic always wins over blind hatered.... every
> time...
Yes, and facts always win out over distortions. <P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
> By law, the state must request the help of the FEDs. The
> Louisana governor did not until it was way too late. On the
> other hand, the Mississippi Governor did request FED
> assistance and the National Guard was in Mississippi on
> TUESDAY!
Then you're forgetting something: LA gov Blanco requested federal assistance on Sunday 8/28/05. Here's a copy of the request: AP, some of the delays came from Washington:
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson offered Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco help from his state's National Guard last Sunday, the day before Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana. Blanco accepted, but paperwork needed to get the troops en route didn't come from Washington until late Thursday.
> Rational logic always wins over blind hatered.... every
> time...
Yes, and facts always win out over distortions. <P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
Re: BUSH TOOK ACTION WITHIN 6 HOURS...
> The City and State should have been using school busses to
> get those people out before the storm hit. They could have
> taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they didn't is
> beyond me!
>
The school busses in New Orleans had been privatized. The government doesn't own the busses or pay the drivers.
Doesn't HISD also use private busses instead of their own?<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
> The City and State should have been using school busses to
> get those people out before the storm hit. They could have
> taken them to schools in other parishes. Why they didn't is
> beyond me!
>
The school busses in New Orleans had been privatized. The government doesn't own the busses or pay the drivers.
Doesn't HISD also use private busses instead of their own?<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
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Re: Revisonist History
> > By law, the state must request the help of the FEDs. The
> > Louisana governor did not until it was way too late. On
> > the
> > other hand, the Mississippi Governor did request FED
> > assistance and the National Guard was in Mississippi on
> > TUESDAY!
>
> Then you're forgetting something: LA gov Blanco requested
> federal assistance on Sunday 8/28/05. Here's a copy of the
> request: http://gov.la.gov/Disaster Relief Request.pdf
>
Did you even read your own link? No where does the Governor ask for the National Guard. That entire document is about the Governor squaring away financial assistance (aka paper work).
In fact, those letters you provided prove my point. The first responders (City and State) did NOT ask for National Guard nor troops.
>
> > Rational logic always wins over blind hatered.... every
> > time...
>
> Yes, and facts always win out over distortions.
>
You definitely presented facts but they had nothing to do with the subject being discussed other than to bolster my argument.
Try again....
> > By law, the state must request the help of the FEDs. The
> > Louisana governor did not until it was way too late. On
> > the
> > other hand, the Mississippi Governor did request FED
> > assistance and the National Guard was in Mississippi on
> > TUESDAY!
>
> Then you're forgetting something: LA gov Blanco requested
> federal assistance on Sunday 8/28/05. Here's a copy of the
> request: http://gov.la.gov/Disaster Relief Request.pdf
>
Did you even read your own link? No where does the Governor ask for the National Guard. That entire document is about the Governor squaring away financial assistance (aka paper work).
In fact, those letters you provided prove my point. The first responders (City and State) did NOT ask for National Guard nor troops.
>
> > Rational logic always wins over blind hatered.... every
> > time...
>
> Yes, and facts always win out over distortions.
>
You definitely presented facts but they had nothing to do with the subject being discussed other than to bolster my argument.
Try again....
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