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47 years ago today

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The day the music died. 47 years ago today we lost Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, and Richie Valens. What is sad is that not one oldies station I listened to today even mentioned it.
The exception being Don Imus who went out of his way and played "American Pie" in its entirety not once but twice this morning on his radio show and MSNBC.Also spent a good deal of time talking about the plane crash. From what he was saying in his last hour, got some heat from management for playing a full song on a "talk show". What does he care he is the "I" man... way to go Don.
 
> The day the music died. 47 years ago today we lost Buddy
> Holly, the Big Bopper, and Richie Valens. What is sad is
> that not one oldies station I listened to today even
> mentioned it.
> The exception being Don Imus who went out of his way and
> played "American Pie" in its entirety not once but twice
> this morning on his radio show and MSNBC.Also spent a good
> deal of time talking about the plane crash. From what he was
> saying in his last hour, got some heat from management for
> playing a full song on a "talk show". What does he care he
> is the "I" man... way to go Don.
>>>>>>
For those of you who haven't done so, Googgle "Bob Dearborn" and look for the "American Pie Anaylsis" that he did on WCFL radio in Chicago in Februrary, 1972. I think you can listen to the anaylsis and, also, there is a transcript of the anaylsis that was done on WCFL letterhead.
 
The "Big Bopper"'s real name was J.P. Richardson.

Had he not been killed in that crash, I think Buddy Holly would have many decades of success in the business and would probably still have been performing today. In terms of being a music legend, he probably would have ranked alongside even Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, and Elvis Presley. I really think Holly's career would have been that successful.
 
> The day the music died. 47 years ago today we lost Buddy
> Holly, the Big Bopper, and Richie Valens. What is sad is
> that not one oldies station I listened to today even
> mentioned it.

That is because anyone who had the use of reason on that date would be over 60 today, making the story irrelevant to the listeners stations want to attract.

This is like talking about Chubby Checker on a Classic Rock station.
 
I heard that Buddy Holly had plans to become a Country Music performer. In an interview with Alan Freed he thought that rock and roll may be a passing fad.

Elvis was able to have his feet in rock and in country but...he was Elvis.


>
> Had he not been killed in that crash, I think Buddy Holly
> would have many decades of success in the business and would
> probably still have been performing today. In terms of being
> a music legend, he probably would have ranked alongside even
> Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, and Elvis Presley. I really
> think Holly's career would have been that successful.
>
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> The day the music died. 47 years ago today we lost Buddy
> Holly, the Big Bopper, and Richie Valens. What is sad is
> that not one oldies station I listened to today even
> mentioned it.
> The exception being Don Imus who went out of his way and
> played "American Pie" in its entirety not once but twice
> this morning on his radio show and MSNBC.Also spent a good
> deal of time talking about the plane crash. From what he was
> saying in his last hour, got some heat from management for
> playing a full song on a "talk show". What does he care he
> is the "I" man... way to go Don.
>
Today, I heard "American Pie" on the new K-Hits, flipped over to KISN-AM, only to hear "Forever In Blue Jeans", then back to K-Hits for the rest of "American Pie". That was followed by "That'll Be The Day", "Chantilly Lace" and "La Bamba"! I have no idea what happened after that because I had to go to work. These songs are 6 years older than anything I've heard on the station before! It's a brand new FM and still totally automated but they did highlight "the day the music died".
 
Re: A Day In The Life by Big Daddy

Big Daddy was a group who performed sixties and seventies songs in a fifties arrangement.

They recorded Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band LP in fifties style.

A Day In The Life was done as Buddy Holly would have performed it. The last notes have an airplane explosion and a news report about the crash of 2/3/59.


> The day the music died. 47 years ago today we lost Buddy
> Holly, the Big Bopper, and Richie Valens. What is sad is
> that not one oldies station I listened to today even
> mentioned it.
> The exception being Don Imus who went out of his way and
> played "American Pie" in its entirety not once but twice
> this morning on his radio show and MSNBC.Also spent a good
> deal of time talking about the plane crash. From what he was
> saying in his last hour, got some heat from management for
> playing a full song on a "talk show". What does he care he
> is the "I" man... way to go Don.
>
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[email protected]</P>
 
> I heard that Buddy Holly had plans to become a Country Music
> performer. In an interview with Alan Freed he thought that
> rock and roll may be a passing fad.
>
> Elvis was able to have his feet in rock and in country
> but...he was Elvis.

Some have speculated that Holly would have moved into the realm of producer after his success as a performer. One can only imagine what music he might have helped create down the line.
 
> I heard that Buddy Holly had plans to become a Country Music
> performer. In an interview with Alan Freed he thought that
> rock and roll may be a passing fad.
>
> Elvis was able to have his feet in rock and in country
> but...he was Elvis.
>>>>
Let's not forget a little discussed fact that Elvis was also heavily influenced by the likes of Dean Martin, one of his favorite singers.
>>>>
>
> >
> > Had he not been killed in that crash, I think Buddy Holly
> > would have many decades of success in the business and
> would
> > probably still have been performing today. In terms of
> being
> > a music legend, he probably would have ranked alongside
> even
> > Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, and Elvis Presley. I really
> > think Holly's career would have been that successful.
> >
>
 
> > I heard that Buddy Holly had plans to become a Country
> Music
> > performer. In an interview with Alan Freed he thought
> that
> > rock and roll may be a passing fad.
> >
> > Elvis was able to have his feet in rock and in country
> > but...he was Elvis.
>
> Some have speculated that Holly would have moved into the
> realm of producer after his success as a performer. One can
> only imagine what music he might have helped create down the
> line.
>>>>
As a big Elvis fan, the question I ask: If Holly had not died so young: Would Elvis had retained his popularity, or would Holly have taken over the throne?
 
His son, who was in utero at the time of J.P.'s death, reportedly performs as The Big Bopper to this day..or at least as of a few years ago.
 
> For those of you who haven't done so, Googgle "Bob Dearborn"
> and look for the "American Pie Anaylsis" that he did on WCFL
> radio in Chicago in Februrary, 1972. I think you can listen
> to the anaylsis and, also, there is a transcript of the
> anaylsis that was done on WCFL letterhead.
>


And, speaking of that, look what I found:

http://rickkaempfer.blogspot.com/
 
> His son, who was in utero at the time of J.P.'s death,
> reportedly performs as The Big Bopper to this day..or at
> least as of a few years ago.
>>>>
The last couple of years or so, I have heard him advertised as being in concert. I believe it was a re-creation of the last concert tour. It was probably on South Bend, IN radio--maybe Chicago.
 
> > [His son, who was in utero at the time of J.P.'s death,
> > reportedly performs as The Big Bopper to this day..or at
> > least as of a few years ago.
> >>>>
> The last couple of years or so, I have heard him advertised
> as being in concert. I believe it was a re-creation of the
> last concert tour. It was probably on South Bend, IN
> radio--maybe Chicago.]


Here's the link. There is also a DVD of the show available.

http://www.yourbuddyjohn.com/albums/2k-wdptour1.htm
 
> That is because anyone who had the use of reason on that
> date would be over 60 today, making the story irrelevant to
> the listeners stations want to attract.
>
> This is like talking about Chubby Checker on a Classic Rock
> station.

But that's the same reasoning some people use when they don't know about something and they say they were born after a certain date mentioned (trivia, historical fact, etc.). With that reasoning, ANY news story or fact or even little trivia should not be used because it's "before their time." So don't mention Gerald Ford's sick because he's in his 90's, Grandpa Al Lewis died (ditto), Rosa Parks, etc., if your demos are under 70 or so.
 
I was born in 1970. I listened to and enjoyed my father’s Buddy Holly records when I was a kid. I’ve seen the Buddy Holly Story at least twice. I know the date and circumstances of Holly’s tragic death. These are all things that I recall whenever I hear American Pie. Holly’s fame was almost gone by the late 60’s, but McLean’s tribute album brought it back to life and perhaps even enhanced it. Holly still has mass appeal to young and old because quite a bit of his music was about love. This is something most of us can relate to. I'm sure many of his fans, including the younger generation, will know the basic details about the tragic death of Buddy Holly.

R

> That is because anyone who had the use of reason on that
> date would be over 60 today, making the story irrelevant to
> the listeners stations want to attract.
 
> > That is because anyone who had the use of reason on that
> > date would be over 60 today, making the story irrelevant
> to
> > the listeners stations want to attract.
> >
> > This is like talking about Chubby Checker on a Classic
> Rock
> > station.
>
> But that's the same reasoning some people use when they
> don't know about something and they say they were born after
> a certain date mentioned (trivia, historical fact, etc.).
> With that reasoning, ANY news story or fact or even little
> trivia should not be used because it's "before their time."
> So don't mention Gerald Ford's sick because he's in his
> 90's, Grandpa Al Lewis died (ditto), Rosa Parks, etc., if
> your demos are under 70 or so.
>
I saw something about Al Lewis once: Someone was looking for an "Al Lewis" type. Al Lewis applied for the job and was rejected because he was too young!
 
Re: 47 years ago today plus 4

> > That is because anyone who had the use of reason on that
> > date would be over 60 today, making the story irrelevant
> to the listeners stations want to attract.
> > This is like talking about Chubby Checker on a Classic
> Rock station.
>
>> With that reasoning, ANY news story or fact or even little
> trivia should not be used because it's "before their time."
> So don't mention Gerald Ford's sick because he's in his
> 90's, Grandpa Al Lewis died (ditto), Rosa Parks, etc., if
> your demos are under 70 or so.

The original post was talking about OLDIES stations NOT talking about Buddy Holly, Richie Valens and The Big Bopper. This was an event that helped shape the 60s musically. (one of the first Quarrymen demos was "That'll Be the Day") You're right, Chubby Checker probably should not be discussed on a Classic Rock station. But he should be discussed on an Oldies station, as should Holly, et.al.
 
> His son, who was in utero at the time of J.P.'s death,

IOW J.P. Jr. was "thought of", to use a phrase my mother likes to regale me with when speaking of events taking place when I was in her womb. BTW I was born 30 months and 24 days after TDTMD.

ixnay
 
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