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50's, 60's, And 70's

Re: YES!

Do you mean AOR? Album Oriented Rock.

> There was a category name tossed around at the time and I
> can't remember what it was. It wasn't considered
> "Progressive Rock". The term had a connection with
> classical music influence. The genre included groups like
> Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Jethro Tull. Does anyone
> remember it?
>
> > Actually there is no such thing as 'Classical' Rock, and
> Yes
> > was always considered 'Progressive Rock'. But YES is still
>
> > going strong, just released a new live DVD from last year!
>
>
> > > I graduated from high school in 1972 and from college in
>
> > > 1976. There was a great variety of music in the '70s,
> > > everything from the classical rock sound of Yes to disco
>
> > > to great music by Paul Simon to great funky music like
> Earth,
> > > Wind & Fire and the Commodores. The '70s was the
> superior
> > > decade for music because there was so much quality and
> > > variety.
>
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Oh no, why?

>>Do you mean AOR? Album Oriented Rock<<

Now of course he will say YES! AOR was more of a broadcast term. Songs played off a rock album could be considered AOR. You didn't go to a Record store and ask where the AOR section was? You didn't go to an AOR Concert? It’s all rock, Progressive rock, New Wave/ Modern rock, Metal rock, Alternative rock, Contemporary rock, Christian rock, or Classic rock (not Classical!). And sure there is classical influence in many rock bands, especially the ones named here!


> > There was a category name tossed around at the time and I
> > can't remember what it was. It wasn't considered
> > "Progressive Rock". The term had a connection with
> > classical music influence. The genre included groups like
>
> > Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Jethro Tull. Does
> anyone
> > remember it?
 
Re: YES!

I remember the concept...heavy on folk with little to no metal. WOXR (now WOXY)comes to mind around 1975. I don't know that it had a name, maybe just "progressive".
 
Re: Progressive Rock

Maybe you're right. It just seems like there was another descriptive term. Nevertheless, the web site you referenced IS a great one and they do indeed call it "progressive" rock.

> "Progressive Rock" was exactly the term for what you
> described. In fact many of these bands had classically
> trained Musicians, look at YES. Somebody took a lot of time
> to review Progressive Rock bands from 1967 to 1979. Check it
> out, it's neat!
>
> http://www.progressiverock.com/timeline.asp?sYear=1967
>
>
> > There was a category name tossed around at the time and I
> > can't remember what it was. It wasn't considered
> > "Progressive Rock". The term had a connection with
> > classical music influence. The genre included groups like
> > Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Jethro Tull. Does anyone
> > remember it?
 
Re: YES!

Not AOR. Album oriented rock was, at the time, THE "cool" station to listen to.
An AOR station simply went deeper into a group's album rather than just stick with the cut that made the charts. The feel of the station was that the DJ was stoned at the time of his/her show. They probably weren't but stuck with that breathy, heavy voice effect.

> Do you mean AOR? Album Oriented Rock.
>
> > There was a category name tossed around at the time and I
> > can't remember what it was. It wasn't considered
> > "Progressive Rock". The term had a connection with
> > classical music influence. The genre included groups like
> > Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Jethro Tull. Does anyone
> > remember it?
 
Re: Progressive Rock

> Maybe you're right. It just seems like there was another
> descriptive term. Nevertheless, the web site you referenced
> IS a great one and they do indeed call it "progressive"
> rock. You're not talking about "free form" or "underground" are you? That would describe the first wave of Album Rock stations.
 
Re: YES!

George Carlin did a great parody of it on his comedy album AM and FM. He also did a caffein crazed top 40 deejay parody.


> > Do you mean AOR? Album Oriented Rock.
> >
> > > There was a category name tossed around at the time and
> I
> > > can't remember what it was. It wasn't considered
> > > "Progressive Rock". The term had a connection with
> > > classical music influence. The genre included groups
> like
> > > Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Jethro Tull. Does
> anyone
> > > remember it?
>
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Re: Oh no, why?

I also remember Acid Rock. Around 1974 there was Glam Rock. Others will come to mind as the night goes on.

> >>Do you mean AOR? Album Oriented Rock > There was a
> category name tossed around at the time and I
> > > can't remember what it was. It wasn't considered
> > > "Progressive Rock". The term had a connection with
> > > classical music influence. The genre included groups
> like
> >
> > > Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Jethro Tull. Does
> > anyone
> > > remember it?
>
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Re: Progressive Rock

There are some great album covers there.

I think that The Moody Blues had the best covers.

Led Zepplin and Yes also had some great ones.

> Maybe you're right. It just seems like there was another
> descriptive term. Nevertheless, the web site you referenced
> IS a great one and they do indeed call it "progressive"
> rock.
>
> > "Progressive Rock" was exactly the term for what you
> > described. In fact many of these bands had classically
> > trained Musicians, look at YES. Somebody took a lot of
> time
> > to review Progressive Rock bands from 1967 to 1979. Check
> it
> > out, it's neat!
> >
> > http://www.progressiverock.com/timeline.asp?sYear=1967
> >
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Our question has been answered

No, stop while you're ahead, or behind, one of the two. Obviously Steppenwolf has great taste in English Progressive rock and might have lived it too?. Did you know Yes opened once for "the Pink floyd"!. Before this thread is over, I predict seeing many more styles of rock listed. Our Topic has been satisfied!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Rock
 
Re: Progressive Rock

> Maybe you're right. It just seems like there was another
> descriptive term. Nevertheless, the web site you referenced
> IS a great one and they do indeed call it "progressive"
> rock.

Thank you. During High School I only hung around with friends who were into the Progressive Rock scene, and that included only listening to the one progressive rock station in town. K-WEST 106 FM, ("Turn it up"!) This page will answer any questions!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Rock
 
LP covers - Chicago had some good ones

The group's logo was often interstiched with some creative concepts. I like Chicago VII, which was brown and had a steam railroad locomotive as well as some other historic etchings.

The BEACH BOYS' WILD HONEY and SMILE were also very creative album covers. Didn't have the guys on the front, though.


> There are some great album covers there.
>
> I think that The Moody Blues had the best covers.
>
> Led Zepplin and Yes also had some great ones.
>
> >
 
1963 WAS A GREAT ROCK N' ROLL YEAR!!

> There were great songs in the seventies and many bad songs.
> I think that 1970 and 1971 were as good as the sixties for
> good music. Things changed in 1972. But I consider 1963 a
> bad year too, but not as bad as 1972. There may have been
> more bad songs in the seventies but there were many good
> ones as well.
>
Are you kidding, Pepper??

1963 was a GREAT year. WALK LIKE A MAN is one of the all-time greats with its homicidal drum intro. The FOUR SEASONS' HARDEST ROCKER!

This was the year before the Beatles and before the Beach Boys gigantic bursts of creativity in 1964, 1965 and 1966 when BRIAN WILSON wrote, sung and produced the greatest LP of all time PET SOUNDS which influenced SGT PEPPERS.

I agree with you on '72.

1963 was a year when RICK NELSON wasn't as big as he should have been. The EVERLY BROS. were still there.
 
Re: 1963 WAS A GREAT ROCK N' ROLL YEAR---NOT!!!

> >
> Are you kidding, Pepper??
>
> 1963 was a GREAT year. WALK LIKE A MAN is one of the
> all-time greats with its homicidal drum intro. The FOUR
> SEASONS' HARDEST ROCKER!
>
> This was the year before the Beatles and before the Beach
> Boys gigantic bursts of creativity in 1964, 1965 and 1966
> when BRIAN WILSON wrote, sung and produced the greatest LP
> of all time PET SOUNDS which influenced SGT PEPPERS.
>

You're kidding, right? The British invasion of 1964 completely took over the airwaves because the music of that era was so great. Clearly you weren't there. For every great song of that year there were a half dozen clinkers..."Danke Shoen", "Sukiyaki", the collected works of Paul & Paula...
1963 was the year Spector ran out of gas (except for the Righteous Bros.), ditto for Cameo-Parkway. Elvis had begun to turn into a lounge act. The world was ready for the Beatles/Stones, hey even Gerry & The Pacemakers were a step up.
 
Re: 1963 WAS A GREAT ROCK N' ROLL YEAR!!

I am surprised that you did not pull the hottest coals out of the 1963 fire. There were many bright spots in music.

I love Louie,Louie, Bust Out and Memphis. There were some great instrumentals.

If I look at a list of the top 100, I will find many great songs.

But...they considered crap such as Our Day Will Come to be rock and roll. Steve Lawrence was high on the charts. Jimmy Durante had his only Hot 100 song. My point is that rock and roll was getting a little wimpy and scared to take a chance. That trend was reversed abruptly with I Want To Hold Your Hand.

I did not like the trend in 1963, though there were many great songs around.


> Are you kidding, Pepper??
>
> 1963 was a GREAT year. WALK LIKE A MAN is one of the
> all-time greats with its homicidal drum intro. The FOUR
> SEASONS' HARDEST ROCKER!
>
> This was the year before the Beatles and before the Beach
> Boys gigantic bursts of creativity in 1964, 1965 and 1966
> when BRIAN WILSON wrote, sung and produced the greatest LP
> of all time PET SOUNDS which influenced SGT PEPPERS.
>
> I agree with you on '72.
>
> 1963 was a year when RICK NELSON wasn't as big as he should
> have been. The EVERLY BROS. were still there.
>
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Re: 1963 WAS A GREAT ROCK N' ROLL YEAR!!

My favorite song by The Everly Brothers came out a year later in 1964. Gone, Gone, Gone.

I can not think of anything by them in 1963 without cheating.


> > have been. The EVERLY BROS. were still there.
> >
>
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Re: 1963 WAS A GREAT ROCK N' ROLL YEAR---NOT!!!

That is my point. Rock and roll was growing to middle age and needed to change. The British Invasion over there and Motown over hear made our music fresh and exciting again.

I think we needed it again in 1972 and did not get any new exciting sound. I do consider disco to be a fresh, new exciting innovation, but it was short-lived and did not make it to the end of 1979.

The British invasion of 1964
> completely took over the airwaves because the music of that
> era was so great. Clearly you weren't there. For every
> great song of that year there were a half dozen
> clinkers..."Danke Shoen", "Sukiyaki", the collected works of
> Paul & Paula...
> 1963 was the year Spector ran out of gas (except for the
> Righteous Bros.), ditto for Cameo-Parkway. Elvis had begun
> to turn into a lounge act. The world was ready for the
> Beatles/Stones, hey even Gerry & The Pacemakers were a step
> up.
>
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Re: LP covers - Chicago had some good ones

Chicago is from England? I know the Beach boys were!


> The group's logo was often interstiched with some creative
> concepts. I like Chicago VII, which was brown and had a
> steam railroad locomotive as well as some other historic
> etchings.
>
> The BEACH BOYS' WILD HONEY and SMILE were also very creative
> album covers. Didn't have the guys on the front, though.
>
>
> > There are some great album covers there.
> >
> > I think that The Moody Blues had the best covers.
> >
> > Led Zepplin and Yes also had some great ones.
> >
> > >
>
 
Re: LP covers - Chicago had some good ones

Chicago is from the windy city.

Original name was Chicago Transit Authority

Chicago, USA

> Chicago is from England? I know the Beach boys were!
>
>
> > The group's logo was often interstiched with some creative
>
> > concepts. I like Chicago VII, which was brown and had a
> > steam railroad locomotive as well as some other historic
> > etchings.
> >
> > The BEACH BOYS' WILD HONEY and SMILE were also very
> creative
> > album covers. Didn't have the guys on the front, though.
> >
> >
> > > There are some great album covers there.
> > >
> > > I think that The Moody Blues had the best covers.
> > >
> > > Led Zepplin and Yes also had some great ones.
> > >
> > > >
> >
>
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