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560 WCKL , Catskill Is Off The Air

Yessir, Fybush.

Re New Jersey and NYC signals: WRNJ Hackettstown, when they were on 1000 khz, was bought by 1010 WINS so WINS could shoot a bit more daytime voltage that way.
IIrc, WRNJ then moved to 1040 originally -- I might be wrong. But if so, they probably would have done so hoping WHN/WEVD/WEPN would slide some money under the counter to buy their silence.

And along with WLNG 1600, WWRL 1600 reportedly inhaled (at some expense, of course) both WERA 1590 Plainfield NJ plus (rumor?) the already-dark rights to WQQW 1590 in Waterbury CT. Doing so would give WWRL, in the daytime, anyway, the opportunity to add some actual land, by which to help subsidize the 300,000 square miles of salt water they have to heat every day. Much seafood in their signal area comes to the market pre-cooked.

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Scott : Do you remember the CP for a 1590 station in Port Chester NY? Memory here places it sometime in the early 70's. Port Chester is eerily proximate to the Bronx borough of NYC, of course. The conspiracy side of me, which surfaces occasionally, suggests that nobody in their right mind would think of putting something like that on the air in the first place. It was most likely just real estate speculation. The signal probably would've had to be fifteen feet wide through their community of license.
 
Mr. Green: :D

WRNJ went straight from 1000 to 1510, which had conveniently been vacated in the interim by WRAN in Dover. I believe they also considered the 1580 frequency that used to be in Washington, but decided they'd have an easier time getting flea power at night on 1510. (And who could then have predicted that FM translators would make it irrelevant?)

The 1040 facility in Flemington was shoehorned in in the early 1990s by what would at first be WJHR ("Jersey's Hometown Radio.") I remember them doing a nice-sounding local full-service format from their transmitter/studios. The fact that their day pattern barely overlapped with their night coverage made it a shaky proposition from day one, and 1040 has careened through various calls and formats and the Nassau bankruptcy over the years since.

As for 1590 Port Chester, I don't know that it ever even made it beyond the application stage, though I certainly remember the application. I vaguely recall it being tied up in mutual exclusivity with what would become WERA. It was possible at the time because WWRL was so very directional into Manhattan and Queens from its Jersey transmitter site.
 
Speaking of unused CP's ,what happened to 550 in Ringwood ,NJ? Then it was going to be moved north to up around West Point? ???
 
I recall when the station went on. It was difficult to hear it in the lower Hudson Valley because of WMCA on 570. Yes, some stations have not made it in NYS. Good memory Fybush on WBAZ Kingston. On a trip to the FCC in 1971 I saw the old "paper file" on applications. There was a 1370 (in about 1964) application for Newburgh that never made it. Out here in Colorado, many "county-seat" AM's are off. These include Breckenridge and Leadville. I visited a county-seat AM in WY last year that is doing fine. Three person operation with a one-stick class IV that gave plenty of local news. It was fun to listen to.
 
Scott, With your connections have you heard anything about what happened with the clown and his radio station WCKL; same thing for 1170 WWLE. They both have been silent for at least two weeks.
I know they have 30 day to obtain a STA silent authority, but what if they don't. Is it up to the FCC to notice they are off the air ? We are talking about 2 tiny stations here.
 
Off the Air?? Not so sure of that. Wife and I drove thru Catskill today, she wanted to see the cat statues along the main drag. Kinda neat. Tuned in 560, sounds like a carrier is on but no modulation (i.e. no program audio).
 
W2JUV_AL said:
Off the Air?? Not so sure of that. Wife and I drove thru Catskill today, she wanted to see the cat statues along the main drag. Kinda neat. Tuned in 560, sounds like a carrier is on but no modulation (i.e. no program audio).
I suspected that was the case. I noticed that the background static was noticeably less in 560 than on the adjacent frequencies in the Catskill area. Although what is there is still weak, the noise level is the same on 560 and the adjacent channels at home in Hyde Park. It has been like this for at least 3 weeks since I first noticed it. I wonder what happened. Did he loose his 'studio ‘for some reason, but didn't bother to go up to the apple orchard where his illegal transmitter is reportedly located.
This has to be a serious violation of FCC rules, not that he cares. What will it take for the FCC to take action against him? I suspect they don’t pay much attention to such small operations in a tiny town.
I see nothing in the FCC data base that the status of WCKL has changed.
 
WCKL has now been silent for over 30 days, which means Family Broadcasting and Media aka Brian Dodge and Tammy Thayer should have applied for a STA silent authority by now. I see nothing in the FCC data base.
Actually the station is not completely off the air there continues to be a low power carrier on 560 without a program all this time, another violation of the rules.
By this time I wonder if something happened to Dodge or Thayer or for some reason they had to quickly hightail it out of town and neglected to turn the transmitter off . In that case I guess the carrier will continue until Central Hudson does not get paid , which is likely to occur before the FCC notices. In any event except for the official paper work I think safe to say WCKL is now history. .
 
WXKW Albany was 10kw, DA-1 with six towers on 850. It was on the air from about 1947 to 1953. It's truly a fascinating piece of radio industry history replete with all kinds of background double-dealing superimposed with the politics of the scramble to get in on early TV.

To add to the list: WQSR Solvay, 500 watt directional daytimer on 1320. Ironically it had to protect another 1320 which has disappeared, WWHG Hornell.
 
WXKW came back to life on 1600 for a while and went off the air sometime mid/late 1960's. Not sure if COL was Albany or Troy.
 
MHVRadiofan said:
WCKL has now been silent for over 30 days, which means Family Broadcasting and Media aka Brian Dodge and Tammy Thayer should have applied for a STA silent authority by now. I see nothing in the FCC data base.
Actually the station is not completely off the air there continues to be a low power carrier on 560 without a program all this time, another violation of the rules.
By this time I wonder if something happened to Dodge or Thayer or for some reason they had to quickly hightail it out of town and neglected to turn the transmitter off . In that case I guess the carrier will continue until Central Hudson does not get paid , which is likely to occur before the FCC notices. In any event except for the official paper work I think safe to say WCKL is now history. .

I think Pamal has to accept the Dodger is never going to close on WPNI Amherst MA. It's been 6 months and now this. How he keeps finding new suckers is a mystery.
 
WXKW 1600 (500 watts, daytime only) was licensed to Troy and IIRC it operated from 1961-1967, always chronically in financial trouble. Towards the end the studios were gutted by a fire and the owner decided to throw in the towel, tired of the never-ending money problems. The story is that the jocks attempted to revive the station on a volunteer basis, playing records with consumer gear at the transmitter shack until the owner told the contract engineer to go out and disable the transmitter permanently. Last I knew these "Lazarus" call letters were again being used by an expanded-band Part 15 station in the Capital District.
 
NHRadio said:
MHVRadiofan said:
WCKL has now been silent for over 30 days, which means Family Broadcasting and Media aka Brian Dodge and Tammy Thayer should have applied for a STA silent authority by now. I see nothing in the FCC data base.
Actually the station is not completely off the air there continues to be a low power carrier on 560 without a program all this time, another violation of the rules.
By this time I wonder if something happened to Dodge or Thayer or for some reason they had to quickly hightail it out of town and neglected to turn the transmitter off . In that case I guess the carrier will continue until Central Hudson does not get paid , which is likely to occur before the FCC notices. In any event except for the official paper work I think safe to say WCKL is now history. .

I think Pamal has to accept the Dodger is never going to close on WPNI Amherst MA. It's been 6 months and now this. How he keeps finding new suckers is a mystery.

No surprise neither Dodge or Thayer appear on the application. These 3 names do CHRISTOPHER GORMAN, 145 MOUNTAIN ROAD, CAIRO, NY 12414 Director, Chairman
TIM ALLEN, 8 STARK ROAD, W. BRATTLEBORO, VA 05303 DIRECTOR/SECRETARY/TREASURER
VERNE VITTUM, 69 CANAL STREET, BRATTLEBORO, VA 05301 Director each with a 1/3 share in THE LOVE RADIO CHURCH, INC.
There have been no updates since February.
 
WCKL just won't die. As of yesterday they are back playing oldies with a few oldies. In the 20 minutes I listened there was no ID but there was 2 commercials. They are operating at very low power with Terrible audio .
 
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