A former local radio sales guy has worked a deal with some out-of-state friends to purchase 580 AM. This could be interesting because this guy has programming experience and intimate knowledge of the radio business and has been itching to jump back in after a stint in another local media. Think 580 will stay adult standards with that awesome signal? I think not.
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580 AM being purchased?
- Thread starter rmalick
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> A former local radio sales guy has worked a deal with some
> out-of-state friends to purchase 580 AM. This could be
> interesting because this guy has programming experience and
> intimate knowledge of the radio business and has been
> itching to jump back in after a stint in another local
> media. Think 580 will stay adult standards with that
> awesome signal? I think not.
>
Looks like a good candidate for Air America and/or other Progressive radio. Looks like it reaches parts of Phoenix during the day. KXXT Air America Phoenix is looking for a new home. Get it up to 25,000 Day and 5,000 night would be ideal. A lot easier said than done.
> out-of-state friends to purchase 580 AM. This could be
> interesting because this guy has programming experience and
> intimate knowledge of the radio business and has been
> itching to jump back in after a stint in another local
> media. Think 580 will stay adult standards with that
> awesome signal? I think not.
>
Looks like a good candidate for Air America and/or other Progressive radio. Looks like it reaches parts of Phoenix during the day. KXXT Air America Phoenix is looking for a new home. Get it up to 25,000 Day and 5,000 night would be ideal. A lot easier said than done.
> Looks like a good candidate for Air America and/or other
> Progressive radio. Looks like it reaches parts of Phoenix
> during the day. KXXT Air America Phoenix is looking for a
> new home. Get it up to 25,000 Day and 5,000 night would be
> ideal. A lot easier said than done.
Progressive talk also a lot easier said than done. Please pass some of what you're smoking... unless of course some left wing organization is LMAing it. I'm all for libtalk, but it belongs on the money-losing Jolt, KGVY, or one of the Class C AMs, not on a station whose daytime pattern reaches 95% of the state's population. No one in Harcuvar wants to hear Al Franken. And judging by the last book, no one any advertisers wants to reach is listening to talk on anywhere by KNST. Good or bad, Arizona liberals need to get over themselves and realize that they'll be back to listening to Air America on a 16kb stream very soon.
> Progressive radio. Looks like it reaches parts of Phoenix
> during the day. KXXT Air America Phoenix is looking for a
> new home. Get it up to 25,000 Day and 5,000 night would be
> ideal. A lot easier said than done.
Progressive talk also a lot easier said than done. Please pass some of what you're smoking... unless of course some left wing organization is LMAing it. I'm all for libtalk, but it belongs on the money-losing Jolt, KGVY, or one of the Class C AMs, not on a station whose daytime pattern reaches 95% of the state's population. No one in Harcuvar wants to hear Al Franken. And judging by the last book, no one any advertisers wants to reach is listening to talk on anywhere by KNST. Good or bad, Arizona liberals need to get over themselves and realize that they'll be back to listening to Air America on a 16kb stream very soon.
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zumahans1
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> Progressive talk also a lot easier said than done. Please
> pass some of what you're smoking... unless of course some
> left wing organization is LMAing it. I'm all for libtalk,
> but it belongs on the money-losing Jolt, KGVY, or one of the
> Class C AMs, not on a station whose daytime pattern reaches
> 95% of the state's population. No one in Harcuvar wants to
> hear Al Franken. And judging by the last book, no one any
> advertisers wants to reach is listening to talk on anywhere
> by KNST. Good or bad, Arizona liberals need to get over
> themselves and realize that they'll be back to listening to
> Air America on a 16kb stream very soon.
>
Or XM channel 167.
Since AAR is one of the largest streamers on the web, what you say is very much like hearing a railroad engineer say "let them fly" in 1955.
Who needs terrestial radio, anyway? If it drives away large segments of its audience by refusing to meet their needs for thoughtful, entertaining talk radio, they are only making themselves even less relevant.
> Progressive talk also a lot easier said than done. Please
> pass some of what you're smoking... unless of course some
> left wing organization is LMAing it. I'm all for libtalk,
> but it belongs on the money-losing Jolt, KGVY, or one of the
> Class C AMs, not on a station whose daytime pattern reaches
> 95% of the state's population. No one in Harcuvar wants to
> hear Al Franken. And judging by the last book, no one any
> advertisers wants to reach is listening to talk on anywhere
> by KNST. Good or bad, Arizona liberals need to get over
> themselves and realize that they'll be back to listening to
> Air America on a 16kb stream very soon.
>
Or XM channel 167.
Since AAR is one of the largest streamers on the web, what you say is very much like hearing a railroad engineer say "let them fly" in 1955.
Who needs terrestial radio, anyway? If it drives away large segments of its audience by refusing to meet their needs for thoughtful, entertaining talk radio, they are only making themselves even less relevant.
> Since AAR is one of the largest streamers on the web, what
> you say is very much like hearing a railroad engineer say
> "let them fly" in 1955.
>
> Who needs terrestial radio, anyway? If it drives away large
> segments of its audience by refusing to meet their needs for
> thoughtful, entertaining talk radio, they are only making
> themselves even less relevant.
If there was a car dealership that sold more cars than everyone but lost money on each, it would still be losing proposition for them. KXXT billed in the hundreds of thousands in 2005 while KFYI and KTAR billed over $10 million each. To say that libtalk should survive because a faction of any size (in this case, a small one) wants it doesn't mean it can or should exist at a loss.
> you say is very much like hearing a railroad engineer say
> "let them fly" in 1955.
>
> Who needs terrestial radio, anyway? If it drives away large
> segments of its audience by refusing to meet their needs for
> thoughtful, entertaining talk radio, they are only making
> themselves even less relevant.
If there was a car dealership that sold more cars than everyone but lost money on each, it would still be losing proposition for them. KXXT billed in the hundreds of thousands in 2005 while KFYI and KTAR billed over $10 million each. To say that libtalk should survive because a faction of any size (in this case, a small one) wants it doesn't mean it can or should exist at a loss.
> > Since AAR is one of the largest streamers on the web, what
>
> If there was a car dealership that sold more cars than
> everyone but lost money on each, it would still be losing
> proposition for them. KXXT billed in the hundreds of
> thousands in 2005 while KFYI and KTAR billed over $10
> million each. To say that libtalk should survive because a
> faction of any size (in this case, a small one) wants it
> doesn't mean it can or should exist at a loss.
>
Didn't the people running KXXT state that it was profitable within 9 months of format startup?
I'm still wondering when Tucson will get a Liberal talk station. We have 3 talk stations that carry almost exclusively the conservative viewpoint. Tucson, and surrounding Pima county, is clearly the most liberal area of the state. When is someone gonna step up and put on what people want to hear? Maybe CC will flip 1600 to Libtalk now that 97.1 plays some of the same type music as 1600. I'll be interested to see what kind of ratings KTKT gets with ESPN Desportes. I really believe people here would be anxious to hear the other side.
>
> If there was a car dealership that sold more cars than
> everyone but lost money on each, it would still be losing
> proposition for them. KXXT billed in the hundreds of
> thousands in 2005 while KFYI and KTAR billed over $10
> million each. To say that libtalk should survive because a
> faction of any size (in this case, a small one) wants it
> doesn't mean it can or should exist at a loss.
>
Didn't the people running KXXT state that it was profitable within 9 months of format startup?
I'm still wondering when Tucson will get a Liberal talk station. We have 3 talk stations that carry almost exclusively the conservative viewpoint. Tucson, and surrounding Pima county, is clearly the most liberal area of the state. When is someone gonna step up and put on what people want to hear? Maybe CC will flip 1600 to Libtalk now that 97.1 plays some of the same type music as 1600. I'll be interested to see what kind of ratings KTKT gets with ESPN Desportes. I really believe people here would be anxious to hear the other side.
> Didn't the people running KXXT state that it was profitable
> within 9 months of format startup?
> I'm still wondering when Tucson will get a Liberal talk
> station. We have 3 talk stations that carry almost
> exclusively the conservative viewpoint. Tucson, and
> surrounding Pima county, is clearly the most liberal area of
> the state. When is someone gonna step up and put on what
> people want to hear? Maybe CC will flip 1600 to Libtalk now
> that 97.1 plays some of the same type music as 1600. I'll be
> interested to see what kind of ratings KTKT gets with ESPN
> Desportes. I really believe people here would be anxious to
> hear the other side.
CC hasn't flipped a station to libtalk in some time... maybe I'm forgetting an isolated incident, but I don't think so. Biggest flip as of late is WWKB in Buffalo with no AAR.
The Jolt isn't billing too well, but that's a long story, and one that's not changing anytime soon. KVOI is owned by right wingers. So no change among the three talkers, and no need for more. As to the Spanish language formats, seems like they are in line with demographics. Don't have any specifics, but with Lotus having flipped stations to ESPN Deportes en masse, it would seem they'd be waiting to see how it plays out.
> within 9 months of format startup?
> I'm still wondering when Tucson will get a Liberal talk
> station. We have 3 talk stations that carry almost
> exclusively the conservative viewpoint. Tucson, and
> surrounding Pima county, is clearly the most liberal area of
> the state. When is someone gonna step up and put on what
> people want to hear? Maybe CC will flip 1600 to Libtalk now
> that 97.1 plays some of the same type music as 1600. I'll be
> interested to see what kind of ratings KTKT gets with ESPN
> Desportes. I really believe people here would be anxious to
> hear the other side.
CC hasn't flipped a station to libtalk in some time... maybe I'm forgetting an isolated incident, but I don't think so. Biggest flip as of late is WWKB in Buffalo with no AAR.
The Jolt isn't billing too well, but that's a long story, and one that's not changing anytime soon. KVOI is owned by right wingers. So no change among the three talkers, and no need for more. As to the Spanish language formats, seems like they are in line with demographics. Don't have any specifics, but with Lotus having flipped stations to ESPN Deportes en masse, it would seem they'd be waiting to see how it plays out.
> Has everyone forgotten the possible change of format on a
> Tucson FM station to talk?
One of the ones in Vail? Regardless, you'd sooner see FreeFM-style talk than the still unproven libtalk. Maybe Miller could get a few replay hours on the weekend, but that's as far as I'd go. KNST runs one top-rated show after another and still isn't a monster, the Jolt has to take trips to China just to interest themselves in listening, and KVOI is great as background music in your gun store. Why the need for more political talk of any stripe? Although Big Eddie wouldn't be a good add for 1330, but don't count on it... Dr. Laura is the top draw, John C. Scott is the flavor of the year, and Rusty is likely a byproduct of TRN's Mancow.
> Tucson FM station to talk?
One of the ones in Vail? Regardless, you'd sooner see FreeFM-style talk than the still unproven libtalk. Maybe Miller could get a few replay hours on the weekend, but that's as far as I'd go. KNST runs one top-rated show after another and still isn't a monster, the Jolt has to take trips to China just to interest themselves in listening, and KVOI is great as background music in your gun store. Why the need for more political talk of any stripe? Although Big Eddie wouldn't be a good add for 1330, but don't count on it... Dr. Laura is the top draw, John C. Scott is the flavor of the year, and Rusty is likely a byproduct of TRN's Mancow.
You act like profitability is an option, or something that should be a big deal. It's actually a requirement.And NE Arizona (Apache, Navajo Ctys) is much more liberal than Pima County.jk3 said:Didn't the people running KXXT state that it was profitable within 9 months of format startup?Tucson, and surrounding Pima county, is clearly the most liberal area of the state.
I was just trying to point out that , if it could be profitable in a more conservative area of the state (Phoenix) , there is a good chance that it would be successful in a more liberal area.You may be correct about the northeast part of the state being more liberal on a percentage basis. I'm not sure that the total population of those counties would be greater than the number of moderates and liberals in the greater Tucson area though.KJCB said:You act like profitability is an option, or something that should be a big deal. It's actually a requirement.And NE Arizona (Apache, Navajo Ctys) is much more liberal than Pima County.
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And NE Arizona (Apache, Navajo Ctys) is much more liberal than Pima County.The Indian parts of those counties are "liberal"...the Southern parts are conservative Mormon
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