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60s on 6 playlist

It's made me explore the other channels, not entirely a bad thing but I do miss hearing the less overplayed songs.
 
80s on 8 and first wave is the same way, the same songs over and over. this is not right for pay radio! something needs to be done about this!
 
JohnnyOhJohnny said:
80s on 8 and first wave is the same way, the same songs over and over. this is not right for pay radio! something needs to be done about this!
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They have gone on the cheap since the merger & the listeners suffer.
 
Supposedly they're on around 900 songs now (up from the low 800's 2 months ago). Prior to the merger they had over 2000 songs in rotation. The big difference now is really the number of artists who get play just about every hour. But even worse, they only rotate the same 6 or 7 songs from most of these artists (some more, some less), so you wind up with major burnout from the decade's biggest artists and biggest songs in a hurry. Check out the list below... guaranteed you heard at least two or three of these artists the last time you tuned in for any 15 minute segment... just like you did the time before that. In my case, I seemingly always tune in for a Johnny Rivers song (and I HATE Johnny Rivers).

Animals
Association
Beach Boys
Beatles
Petula Clark
CCR
Dave Clark Five
Neil Diamond
Doors
5th Dimension
Four Seasons
Four Tops
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Guess Who
Herman's Hermits
Hollies
Tommy James & Shondells
Kinks
Gary Lewis & Playboys
Lovin' Spoonful
Mamas and Papas
Martha & Vandellas
Monkees
Elvis Presley
Gary Puckett
Rascals
Paul Revere & The Raiders
Johnny Rivers
Rolling Stones
Simon & Garfunkel
Supremes
Temptations
Turtles
Stevie Wonder
 
Case in point, there's a website that tracks the number of plays for each channel. For the 60s channel, last week the 5th most played artist was CCR with 46 plays. Meaning, a CCR song was played 46 times. However, 2 CCR songs (Bad Moon Rising & Proud Mary) made up 20 of those 46 plays; nearly half. Bad Moon Rising was played 11 times last week. Simple math says on 4 of those 7 days, that song was played twice.

The 80s channel maybe the worst for repetition. There's 20 songs that were played at least 9 times last week. If there's 168 hours in a week, the math tells you that those 20 songs are being played on a 18 to 19 hour rotation. Another way of looking at it, there's 2 days in the week where each of those 20 songs will be played twice.

But the philosophy seems to be listeners are cycling every 6 hours. Take Bad Moon Rising. On an 18-hour rotation if it plays at 9a.m. Monday, it'll play again at 3a.m. Tuesday, then 9p.m. Tuesday, then 3p.m. Wednesday and then at 9a.m. again on Thursday. The thinking must be that the majority of people listening to the 60s at 9a.m. are a different set of people than the majority of people who are listening to the 60s at 3a.m., and the majority of people listening to the 60s at 9p.m. are a different set of people, and so on, and that they don't notice the repetition.
 
The problem with an 18-hour rotation is that you're always going to hear the same songs at just about the same time at least once a week. If I listen every day between 9:30 am and 10:30 am and 7pm and 8pm on my trip to and from work, I hear (at about a 50% rate) the exact same group of songs from that 18-hour rotation schedule. Since it's not offset rotation (say 14.5 hours or so), if I listen at other times of the day I hear songs I haven't heard in weeks or months while other songs in my normal rotation periods are played to death. 18-hour rotation is just plain stupid.
 
qunewsguy said:
Supposedly they're on around 900 songs now (up from the low 800's 2 months ago). Prior to the merger they had over 2000 songs in rotation. The big difference now is really the number of artists who get play just about every hour. But even worse, they only rotate the same 6 or 7 songs from most of these artists (some more, some less), so you wind up with major burnout from the decade's biggest artists and biggest songs in a hurry. Check out the list below... guaranteed you heard at least two or three of these artists the last time you tuned in for any 15 minute segment... just like you did the time before that. In my case, I seemingly always tune in for a Johnny Rivers song (and I HATE Johnny Rivers).

Animals
Association
Beach Boys
Beatles
Petula Clark
CCR
Dave Clark Five
Neil Diamond
Doors
5th Dimension
Four Seasons
Four Tops
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Guess Who
Herman's Hermits
Hollies
Tommy James & Shondells
Kinks
Gary Lewis & Playboys
Lovin' Spoonful
Mamas and Papas
Martha & Vandellas
Monkees
Elvis Presley
Gary Puckett
Rascals
Paul Revere & The Raiders
Johnny Rivers
Rolling Stones
Simon & Garfunkel
Supremes
Temptations
Turtles
Stevie Wonder
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Yup--they've become like all the other oldies stations. Only difference is we pay for this garbage.
I've sent them emails expressing my unhappiness, but to no avail.
 
All XM music channels suck now since Sirius took over. Now it is just like any other terrestrial radio station. The same old 300 songs over and over at the same times every day. I only keep XM for MLB games, College Sports and programs like Rollye James and Leo Laporte on channel 158.
 
To expound on this, here are some songs by these artists that NEVER get played on XM, or if they do I sure never hear them:

Animals - Sky Pilot
Association - Six Man Band
Petula Clark - Colour My World, Other Man's Grass Is Always Greener, Kiss Me Goodbye
Dave Clark Five - Any Way You Want It
Neil Diamond - Brooklyn Roads, Two Bit Manchild, Sunday Sun
5th Dimension - Carpet Man, Paper Cup, Sweet Blindness
Herman's Hermits - No Milk Today, Don't Go Out Into The Rain
Hollies - Jennifer Eccles, Sorry Suzanne
Tommy James & Shondells - Sweet Cherry Wine, Do Something To Me, Mirage
Kinks - Dedicated Follower Of Fashion
Lovin' Spoonful - Six O'Clock, Darling Be Home Soon, She Is Still A Mystery To Me
Mamas and Papas - Twelve Thirty, Dancing Bear
Monkees - D.W. Washburn, Porpoise Song
Rascals - It's Wonderful, A Ray Of Hope
Paul Revere & The Raiders - Let Me, Mr. Sun Mr. Moon
Simon & Garfunkel - Hazy Shade Of Winter, Fakin' It, At The Zoo
Supremes - No Matter What Sign You Are, I'm Livin' In Shame, Forever Came Today
Turtles - Somewhere Friday Night (first heard this on the IT marathon back in October 2006 when XM was good)
Stevie Wonder - Heaven Help Us All

Most of these were sizable hits (Top 20 or higher) but never see the light of day any more.
 
storrs19 said:
To expound on this, here are some songs by these artists that NEVER get played on XM, or if they do I sure never hear them:

Animals - Sky Pilot
Association - Six Man Band
Petula Clark - Colour My World, Other Man's Grass Is Always Greener, Kiss Me Goodbye
Dave Clark Five - Any Way You Want It
Neil Diamond - Brooklyn Roads, Two Bit Manchild, Sunday Sun
5th Dimension - Carpet Man, Paper Cup, Sweet Blindness
Herman's Hermits - No Milk Today, Don't Go Out Into The Rain
Hollies - Jennifer Eccles, Sorry Suzanne
Tommy James & Shondells - Sweet Cherry Wine, Do Something To Me, Mirage
Kinks - Dedicated Follower Of Fashion
Lovin' Spoonful - Six O'Clock, Darling Be Home Soon, She Is Still A Mystery To Me
Mamas and Papas - Twelve Thirty, Dancing Bear
Monkees - D.W. Washburn, Porpoise Song
Rascals - It's Wonderful, A Ray Of Hope
Paul Revere & The Raiders - Let Me, Mr. Sun Mr. Moon
Simon & Garfunkel - Hazy Shade Of Winter, Fakin' It, At The Zoo
Supremes - No Matter What Sign You Are, I'm Livin' In Shame, Forever Came Today
Turtles - Somewhere Friday Night (first heard this on the IT marathon back in October 2006 when XM was good)
Stevie Wonder - Heaven Help Us All

Most of these were sizable hits (Top 20 or higher) but never see the light of day any more.
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Sky Pilot still gets some play, but the others have been dumped since the merger.
 
CTListener said:
JoeMorris said:
Have you tried calling and requesting these songs?
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Terry Young tells callers who request "obscure" titles, "We don't have that."
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That appears to be changing slowly. They're playing not-so-obscure (but outside the top 5) songs now more often, and even letting those through as requests too. If there's something you want to hear, I'd say give it a shot.
 
storrs19 said:
To expound on this, here are some songs by these artists that NEVER get played on XM, or if they do I sure never hear them:

I'm not thrilled with what's going on with the 60's on 6...but your getting alittle too deep. many of these songs were not hits or near hits. Most or many wouldn't remember these following...

Animals - Sky Pilot _ a hit.

Association - Six Man Band.....Not a hit...everything That touches you and Time for Livin' is more like it.

Petula Clark - Colour My World, Other Man's Grass Is Always Greener, Kiss Me Goodbye....2 out of 3 were a hit or familiar.

Dave Clark Five - Any Way You Want It......a hit and should be played.

Neil Diamond - Brooklyn Roads, Two Bit Manchild, Sunday Sun...they charted , but were not hits. Neil has too many gems to waste time on the air for these.

5th Dimension - Carpet Man, Paper Cup, Sweet Blindness...1 out of three would be familiar, or remembered. The other 2 are for obscure MOR formats.

Herman's Hermits - No Milk Today, Don't Go Out Into The Rain...No Milk was great, and points against them if it were removed, Don't Go Out ...It scored , but that's one tune most people don't remember. Take Or Leave Your Lovin should be played, That's a great obscure tune, but I seen Herman twice in concert, and he does not perform those two songs. I guess it didn't test well.

Hollies - Jennifer Eccles, Sorry Suzanne....near misses....Jennifer couold be played on a very slow rotation. Still unless your a devoted Hollies fan, most people won't remember that tune.

Tommy James & Shondells - Sweet Cherry Wine, Do Something To Me, Mirage

They always played Mirage, maybe i should request that tune, if no longer played...cancel your subscription. Sweet Cherry Wine was a familiar hit....Do Something to me, was a small market or medium market in some areas played. Most people won't remember it. I seen Tommy James twice, and even met him, and he never performs that song.

Kinks - Dedicated Follower Of Fashion...not one of their biggest, but familiar and it use to get played.

Lovin' Spoonful - Six O'Clock, Darling Be Home Soon, She Is Still A Mystery To Me....it seems like no one really touches their non top 10 hits. or anything that was recorded in 1967 and charted. But let's face it, with most cases with artist back then, the songs that hit top 10 were their best sounding songs. There was a good reason, why many of the the near hits were near hits. Darling be Home Soon, was the only song in that bunch you can compare with Summer in the city, You didn't Have to Be so Nice etc.

Mamas and Papas - Twelve Thirty, Dancing Bear....Twelve thirty and a very slow rotation. Dancing Bear, too deep and not remembered by most.

Monkees - D.W. Washburn, Porpoise Song...yes it charted, but those songs were bad. The series was canceled when those tunes came out. Just because it charted doesn't mean it should be played. Unless they should have beens.

Rascals - It's Wonderful, A Ray Of Hope...Ray Of Hope was great....but they were declining , fighting, breaking up, but yes they should still be on the 60's playlist. I agree with this one.

Paul Revere & The Raiders - Let Me, Mr. Sun Mr. Moon...I surely agree with these...but oldies stations aways put their late 60's hits on deletion, or slow rotation with the exception of Indian Resevation. I guess Mel doesn't like Freddy Weller and Keith Allison. and there's alot more Raiders that does not get played or ignored. Great Airplane Strike, Ups and Downs, get it?

Simon & Garfunkel - Hazy Shade Of Winter, Fakin' It, At The Zoo...c'mon Clear channel plays these.

Supremes - No Matter What Sign You Are, I'm Livin' In Shame, Forever Came Today....2 out of 3 were airplay hits or familiar, No Matter what sign was not a hit. especially with the Supremes background.

Turtles - Somewhere Friday Night (first heard this on the IT marathon back in October 2006 when XM was good)....
I can see why not. IT was a novelties show that played America's recorded music....hits and non hits that charted. But to play that song on the playlist is a bad add. "She's my Girl, You Know What I mean, those songs should be played, even though they were probably deleted under the merger. And I seen the Turtles twice, and they don't perform those songs.

Stevie Wonder - Heaven Help Us All...they play this, at least on Soultown.

Most of these were sizable hits (Top 20 or higher) but never see the light of day any more.

when you listen to a greatest hits album of an artist or group, most of the songs that they fill in are not as good as the hit songs in most cases. There's a reason that some of the songs listed here are not played or should be deleted. They were not that good, even if they climbed up the top 30 then stunted. There's a reason to that.
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Nice to see some comments on my list. Of course I was a Joe Donovan (84 WHAS) listener for a decade so I got used to hearing other hits (and misses) by artists. I am an obscure music lover though and my library of over 20,000 songs certainly contains a lot of misses. I know most people won't remember or care for these other hits but with all the channels on XM couldn't we have a channel that caters to the "lost" songs from 1965-1973? There were so many artists who had one or two singles and that was it but they were IMHO great songs.

It would be great if someone like Joe Donovan could have a show on XM say twice a week for four hours, live and take requests for these kind of songs. But then we don't even have a real classic R&B channel that features artists like Big Joe Turner, Lavern Baker and Hank Ballard so I guess it will never happen. I mean a ton of what he played made the Top 30 at least and people do remember them.

You sparked my memory with "Up's and Down's" by Paul Revere and The Raiders. That was a great song that never gets heard any more like "Cinderella Sunshine" although that was not as big a hit. Of course I am biased as certain artists (Paul Revere and The Raiders, Tommy Roe, The Grass Roots, Bobby Goldsboro, The New Colony Six and Billy Joe Royal) were just gold in Louisville, KY and almost everything they did made the Top 10 here for some reason. As for Simon & Garfunkel all I ever seem to hear is Mrs. Robinson but then maybe I tune in at the wrong time.
 
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