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650 WSM's long term future

TomásEstefan said:
That's like saying you're from L.A. when you grew up in Bakersfield...I knew such a person!
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I worked at a TV station in Lafayette, IN in the 90s. The new interns from Purdue would start every fall. Asked "where are you from?". They'd say "Chicago". It'd turn out they were from a cornfield town in NW Indiana. No, the fact that you went to a Cubs game a few times doesn't make you "From Chicago".
 
gr8oldies said:
I worked at a TV station in Lafayette, IN in the 90s. The new interns from Purdue would start every fall. Asked "where are you from?". They'd say "Chicago". It'd turn out they were from a cornfield town in NW Indiana. No, the fact that you went to a Cubs game a few times doesn't make you "From Chicago".
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It sounds like you guys are talking about the definition of "Chicagoland." I asked this question to Rollye James one night. Apparently it covers a huge area. I don't specifically remember the exact area considered "Chicagoland" but it's a huge area. I would have thought the city, and surrounding suburbs, like Lisle, IL where my aunt once lived. Don't ask me why. "Mine is not to question why, but to b*tch and moan and cry." :)
 
gr8oldies said:
I worked at a TV station in Lafayette, IN in the 90s. The new interns from Purdue would start every fall. Asked "where are you from?". They'd say "Chicago". It'd turn out they were from a cornfield town in NW Indiana. No, the fact that you went to a Cubs game a few times doesn't make you "From Chicago".
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When Dad got transferred to Chicago we actually lived in Libertyville. He rode the old Milwaukee Road comuter train downtown. If anyone local asked we would say Libertyville. Out of towers got "Chicagoland". The actual city limits of Chicago is small compared to the MSA.

In the 1960's or early 70's the city of Nashville government "merged" with Davison County. At one time in the 1970's there were some small farms in the metro Nashville city limits. I bet that really messed with required rf coverage of city of license for moving an AM along with the crappy ground conductivity. Of course the existing folks got Grandfathered.
 
Getting off-topic, but WHTZ basically hides that they are a Newark, NJ radio station, not a NYC station. Even in their legal ID, Newark is barely audible.

For all intents and purposes they, are a NYC station with their transmitter on the Empire State Building.
 
CentralFL said:
Getting off-topic, but WHTZ basically hides that they are a Newark, NJ radio station, not a NYC station. Even in their legal ID, Newark is barely audible.

For all intents and purposes they, are a NYC station with their transmitter on the Empire State Building.
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That's nothing new. Plenty of stations tend to direct their branding efforts to the primary city or cities in the market, even if they're licensed to a nearby suburb (in this case, let's just consider Newark a suburb of New York).

The licensing of stations to suburbs is part of old archaic FCC rules that are obviously outdated. But there's never really been a movement to change any of that. But, rules are rules, so WHTZ has to ID as Newark. Just like WKTU ID's as Lake Success, and who can find THAT on a map?

So yeah, it is what it is.
 
Fighting Irish said:
That's nothing new. Plenty of stations tend to direct their branding efforts to the primary city or cities in the market, even if they're licensed to a nearby suburb (in this case, let's just consider Newark a suburb of New York).

The licensing of stations to suburbs is part of old archaic FCC rules that are obviously outdated. But there's never really been a movement to change any of that. But, rules are rules, so WHTZ has to ID as Newark. Just like WKTU ID's as Lake Success, and who can find THAT on a map?

So yeah, it is what it is.
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Lake Success is on the Queens/Nassau border so WKTU is technically in NYC.
 
Fighting Irish said:
That's nothing new. Plenty of stations tend to direct their branding efforts to the primary city or cities in the market, even if they're licensed to a nearby suburb (in this case, let's just consider Newark a suburb of New York).

The licensing of stations to suburbs is part of old archaic FCC rules that are obviously outdated. But there's never really been a movement to change any of that. But, rules are rules, so WHTZ has to ID as Newark. Just like WKTU ID's as Lake Success, and who can find THAT on a map?

So yeah, it is what it is.
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COLs are essentially outdated, even in Canada the CBC's CBU Vancouver (690) hasn't identified as such in many decades. They simply say this is "CBC British Columbia".
 
TomásEstefan said:
COLs are essentially outdated, even in Canada the CBC's CBU Vancouver (690) hasn't identified as such in many decades. They simply say this is "CBC British Columbia".
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I have always thought stations should be givin the option to use their MSA.

Technically nobody except the FCC, the station engineer, and few radio geeks ever hear most FM translator's real ID thanks to the handy frequency shift boxes.
 
fybush said:
The village of Lake Success is in Nassau County. It's not part of NYC.

Not that it matters, of course. KTU is a NYC station like any other.
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You're right. I thought it was in both Nassau and Queens, straddling the border. As you point out, whatever the city of license, they are a NYC station. 103.5 used to be off the World Trade Center, but they have remained on the Empire ever since 9/11.
 
secondchoice said:
When Dad got transferred to Chicago we actually lived in Libertyville. He rode the old Milwaukee Road comuter train downtown. If anyone local asked we would say Libertyville. Out of towers got "Chicagoland". The actual city limits of Chicago is small compared to the MSA.

In the 1960's or early 70's the city of Nashville government "merged" with Davison County. At one time in the 1970's there were some small farms in the metro Nashville city limits. I bet that really messed with required rf coverage of city of license for moving an AM along with the crappy ground conductivity. Of course the existing folks got Grandfathered.
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I recently read that the term, "grandfathered", is now considered offensive somehow and possibly racist, due to its origins!
 
semoochie said:
I recently read that the term, "grandfathered", is now considered offensive somehow and possibly racist, due to its origins!
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Sorry If I offended anyone.


What are the rastist roots of the "G" word? Please PM me so we don't offend anyone.


The last race relations class I attended for work was in 2001. My cubicle was next to 3 lawyers offices and I heard that word used several times.
 


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