Braves Tomahawk Chop didn't really exist back then. It pretty much didn't exist between the retirement of Big Victor and the arrival of Deion Sanders.
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680 The Fan Going After WSB
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Hmmm... maybe it was the switch from CNN Headline News to sports. I just remember tuning in all that weekend to see how long the tomahawk chop would keep playing.
Not to be technical but KNBR wasn't a Class I-A. It was a I-B. True, it was and is 50,000 watts non-directional, the same as nearly all I-A stations. But the FCC allowed plenty of other stations on 680, even before it began letting more stations set up on clear channel frequencies. KNBR didn't have the protections of a I-A.
Other stations that looked like I-As but were I-Bs include KOA 850 Denver (non-directional but with plenty of other 850s), WGY Schenectady (non-directional but still had to share 810 with KGO), KNX Los Angeles and CBA Moncton (non-directional but still had to share 1070 with each other) and XEQ Mexico City and CBM Montreal (also non-directional but had to share 940 with each other).
There were only two I-As in the West. KFI and KSL had almost no other stations on their frequencies, even on the East Coast. 640 had a 1,000 watt station at night in Akron and a couple of daytimers. 1160 had nobody on at night except Puerto Rico.
WOWO was a major station too. Both stations were / are protected daytime. You have to have a good 24 hour signal to have any kind of AM drive. Really except for WBS there wasn't a viable local AM signal 10 north of 285. If (and it will never happen) WPTF would reworked their nighttime pattern to just cover their market and the advertisers home there most likely won't be too much outcry.
640 in Akron (WHLO) had to sign off at Los Angeles sunset, but that kept them on for 3 hours after Akron sunset.
I grew up in Baltimore and when 640 had no nighttime signals except for WHLO during those 3 hours, WHLO boomed into Baltimore after local sunset. I was a bit surprised when I learned that WHLO had only 1,000 watts.
Did WHLO have any kind of PSA?
That is the answer, KNBR is the station that gets the skywave protection . . . Thank You, fybush
And for most of its life, Akron was a daytimer, but signed off at sunset in LA, so in the summer it was on until nearly 11 PM local time. Even in Winter, it was on till around 7 PM as well. As "WHLO" it was "Hello Radio" and a very good Top 40 I listened to often in Cleveland.
A reversal of that was KPOP in Los Angeles, which was on KDKA's 1020. They could sign on at sunrise, Pittsburgh time and did one of the first Spanish language shows in those early morning hours prior to 6 AM. On Monday, when KDKA went off the air for maintenance all night, WPOP signed on at 9 PM PST; in the Summer they were only off the air for less than 90 minutes!
Agreed. WHLO was the second station owned by Susquehanna after WSBA in York, PA. Like its sibling in the Keystone state, WHLO sounded like a major market station.
According to the FCC's microfilms, WRNG had "conditional" PSRA as of early 1968. Not sure if it still had it by the time it went on the air later in the year.
I'm guessing the PSRA became moot when they moved to Peachtree Corners and turned on their night signal. Yes, I know, if they still had PSRA they could run their new/current day pattern before sunrise.
North Atlanta was reincorporated as Brookhaven in 2012.
I'm guessing the PSRA became moot when they moved to Peachtree Corners and turned on their night signal. Yes, I know, if they still had PSRA they could run their new/current day pattern before sunrise.
The city of North Atlanta was dissolved in 1965, three years before WRNG went on the air. As I mentioned earlier, the earliest FCC records of the future WCNN date from 1959, so that makes sense as a "target" CoL. The original licensee was "North Atlanta Broadcasting Company", and they later sold the CP to Ring Radio Company, along with a callsign change from WATY to WRNG.
North Atlanta was reincorporated as Brookhaven in 2012.
And, as one of the more unusual station owners, the parent for Susquehanna made... and makes... Pfaltzgraff stoneware and flatware!
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Unfortunately, Susquehanna is just a family office now. They sold Pfaltzgraff off several years back (2005), around the time they sold off Susquehanna Broadcasting.And, as one of the more unusual station owners, the parent for Susquehanna made... and makes... Pfaltzgraff stoneware and flatware!
Pfaltzgraff - Shop Dinnerware, Serveware, Drinkware, Flatware ...
Pfaltzgraff patterns have dinnerware sets, melamine plates, and stoneware dishes for any event. With our serveware you'll always serve in style!
Pfaltzgraff was one of the last remaining companies making tableware in America (York, PA). The new owners moved production to China.
I worked on the Pfaltzgraff account at W.B. Doner Advertising and presented media plans to the Susquehanna board, including CEO Louis Appel. The ironic thing was a company (Susquehanna) that made its money from advertising didn’t believe in advertising. For many years, Pfaltzgraff advertised in bridal magazines only. But around 1990, retailers started screaming that they needed ad support. So Pfaltzgraff started advertising but canceled the campaign after a little over a year.And, as one of the more unusual station owners, the parent for Susquehanna made... and makes... Pfaltzgraff stoneware and flatware!
Pfaltzgraff - Shop Dinnerware, Serveware, Drinkware, Flatware ...
Pfaltzgraff patterns have dinnerware sets, melamine plates, and stoneware dishes for any event. With our serveware you'll always serve in style!
I’m sure the company’s radio (and outdoor billboard) profits dwarfed what Pfaltzgraff took in, but Pfaltzgraff was CEO Louis Appel’s pet project.
Imagine that, a company that makes fancy dinner plates moved to China.
640 also had WGOC Kingsport, TN. Also about 1,000 watts at night. Now it's WXSM.
My 1977 edition of Broadcasting Yearbook has WGOC in Kingsport but not on 640. It's on 1090 as a daytimer. It later moves to 1320 for fulltime service.
In addition to Los Angeles and Akron, 640 has two other stations in the U.S.: WOI Ames IA and WNAD Norman OK. Both are daytimers. WOI is one of the oldest stations on the dial but as a non-commercial college station, it likely didn't seek more power or nighttime operation.
It's amazing to look at this old Yearbook and see so many clear channel frequencies like 640, with very few stations, mostly daytimers. WOAI 1200 San Antonio has nobody else on that frequency in the U.S., not even daytimers. It's all by itself.
Two very early stations, WOI and WHA in Madison at the University of Wisconsin, stayed as daytimers with relatively limited power despite being so very much "pioneers" as one can see from the earliest of the three letter calls.
This site has a good history of the start of WOI, I didn’t know it had started its own library service due to a lack of rural libraries:
ALL of the pioneering educational broadcasters ended up on bad daytime-only facilities, and deliberately so, thanks to DoC/FRC/early FCC policies that heavily favored commercial broadcasters.
WOSU, WKAR, KUSD, WBAA, WOI, WILL, WSUI, WHA, WLBL, KOAC, KWSC/KWSU, KUOM and so on - all date back to the very earliest group of licensees and all were limited to daytime-only or shoved into bad time-shares by regulators who repeatedly denied any semblance of an even playing field.
The only stations that were owned by educational institutions in that era that ended up with decent facilities were the ones that were sold off or operated fully commercially - KOB, WWL and WHAM most prominent among them.
I think WGST, when it was owned by Georgia Tech, had the opportunity to move to a clear channel and become a class A, but declined to do so. And WGST was the second radio station in Atlanta, behind You Know Who.