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6ABC signal problems

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There is problems with the over the air digital signal of WPVI 6ABC. Many people are saying that this has to do with them being on digital channel 6 and using the lower end of the VHF. Are you seeing the same problems where you are?
 
Well I have cable, so no complaints from me, other then the end of 87.7.

Hey maybe one of the radio stations 6abc provides weather for could simulcast them on one of their hd channels.
 
This thread applies to people that have digital TVs and the digital converter box, not cable. According to many people, they are not getting channel 6's signal at all. Someone at the station screwed up here because most people are not getting the station's signal on the digital TVs and converter boxes.
 
It is extremely arrogant on WPVI's part to want to return to channel RF-6 when it has been known and proved that channels 2 thru 6 are completely useless in the digital television world. There's a reason why a scant few broadcasters in America are using those channels and WPVI is learning very quickly why. WPVI better hope they don't have any Neilson families that rely on OTA because they will not be receiving WPVI on RF-6, ever. This exercise in short-sightedness is going to cost WPVI dearly in important ad revenue.
 
Robnoxious said:
It is extremely arrogant on WPVI's part to want to return to channel RF-6 when it has been known and proved that channels 2 thru 6 are completely useless in the digital television world. There's a reason why a scant few broadcasters in America are using those channels and WPVI is learning very quickly why. WPVI better hope they don't have any Neilson families that rely on OTA because they will not be receiving WPVI on RF-6, ever. This exercise in short-sightedness is going to cost WPVI dearly in important ad revenue.
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It's been years in the making. The attempt at continued stability seems to have backfired til the kinks get worked out. Nevertheless, I do wonder if people will complain loudly enough over the loss of 87.7 that WPVI will actually look for a new radio outlet as a response such as the 1996 campaign that brought back the old Action News theme after a one-week alteration of the theme. Though possibly not. I'm still surprised to hear Don Polec was axed...and they made very little noise about it happening, too. Considering how fiercely many in Philly protect the format and content of Action News, I'm surprised there hasn't been a campaign to bring back Polec, ala the 1996 campaign that brought back the Action News theme after a one-week alteration of the theme.
 
I have some lovely recordings of digital video distortion from 6's multicast. I had this issue until I reset to factory defaults, and rescanned. I think it's helpful if the converter starts with a clean slate. I can't get the ChannelMaster to reset, though-following the instructions. My DigitalStream and DTVPal Plus work fine after the 'reboot'. I'm using a 'scanner' antenna, but everything looks fine.
 
On WPVI's message boards, they noted that attempts were made to find some kind of alternative with the loss of 87.7, but nothing panned out. Just because we didn't see it come to pass doesn't mean they didn't consider it and try to do something about it. Really, though, what are viable options? HD radio? It's barely on the radar and probably not worth the effort to many people. I would consider getting one installed in my car for that purpose, but I don't pretend to assume that means many others would do the same.

On the signal issue, interestingly, when I re-scanned last night, I got WPVI DT more clearly than I had been before. Whether it was a fluke or not, I don't know, but prior to June 12, I had horrible signal issues, and by last night it was showing a moderate strength signal with few freezes.
 
Robnoxious said:
It is extremely arrogant on WPVI's part to want to return to channel RF-6 when it has been known and proved that channels 2 thru 6 are completely useless in the digital television world. There's a reason why a scant few broadcasters in America are using those channels and WPVI is learning very quickly why. WPVI better hope they don't have any Neilson families that rely on OTA because they will not be receiving WPVI on RF-6, ever. This exercise in short-sightedness is going to cost WPVI dearly in important ad revenue.
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I would send this message to the station, right now and tell me they need to immediately fix their digital signal.
 
Julius May said:
Robnoxious said:
It is extremely arrogant on WPVI's part to want to return to channel RF-6 when it has been known and proved that channels 2 thru 6 are completely useless in the digital television world. There's a reason why a scant few broadcasters in America are using those channels and WPVI is learning very quickly why. WPVI better hope they don't have any Neilson families that rely on OTA because they will not be receiving WPVI on RF-6, ever. This exercise in short-sightedness is going to cost WPVI dearly in important ad revenue.
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I would send this message to the station, right now and tell me they need to immediately fix their digital signal.
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What's to fix? Disney chose channel 6, a VHF station for WPVI-DT when WPVI-TV went off the air as opposed to their UHF station that WPVI-DT had been broadcasting over the air for many years. I guess they would have had to move off of channel 64 just like WCAU-DT had to move off of channel 67. Could have WPVI-DT stayed in UHF like WCAU-DT did? Why didn't NBC move WCAU-DT to channel 10? Did they forsee the issues that ABC is having with channel 6? How is WHYY-DT ota now on channel 12 as opposed to low power on channel 50?

By the way, Julius, fix channel 6.
 
Yes, Julius, I'm sure they're completely unaware of everything, until you tell people what they should do and alert channel 6.

"What's that? JULIUS is bothered? Then by all means, fix it right away."
 
The FCC deleted channels 52-69. WPVI-DT could not have stayed on 64.

- Trip
 
Bill_W said:
What's to fix? Disney chose channel 6, a VHF station for WPVI-DT when WPVI-TV went off the air as opposed to their UHF station that WPVI-DT had been broadcasting over the air for many years. I guess they would have had to move off of channel 64 just like WCAU-DT had to move off of channel 67. Could have WPVI-DT stayed in UHF like WCAU-DT did? Why didn't NBC move WCAU-DT to channel 10? Did they foresee the issues that ABC is having with channel 6? How is WHYY-DT ota now on channel 12 as opposed to low power on channel 50?

By the way, Julius, fix channel 6.
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I wished I could but I can't. I hope that the posters will contact the station and let them know about this problem that really needs to be fixed ASAP. This can't go on forever, these signal issues.
 
imhomerjay said:
Yes, Julius, I'm sure they're completely unaware of everything, until you tell people what they should do and alert channel 6.

"What's that? JULIUS is bothered? Then by all means, fix it right away."
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If you see the comments part on the bottom of this link http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/consumer&id=6620865 , a lot of people are reporting the signal problems. That's why I started the thread. This is a big deal for folks that get it over the air via digital TVs or converter boxes.
 
Yes it is, for a relatively small portion of the population. But adding a thread here does...repeat after me....nothing about it. And telling people they need to contact the station is silliness. Do you really think people who want to do that won't do it on their own?
 
Channel 6's digital over-the-air signals are not operating in the Bucks County area. All other regional digital TV signals are functioning except 6ABC. Any status of when this problem will be fixed??????????????
 
Channel 6-1, 6-2, and 6-3 are being received perfectly clear at my location in Lower Bucks, about a quarter-mile east of Oxford Valley Mall, as well as Channel 12 (finally!), as Trip had predicted earlier this year.
 
trolleyk said:
Channel 6's digital over-the-air signals are not operating in the Bucks County area. All other regional digital TV signals are functioning except 6ABC. Any status of when this problem will be fixed??????????????
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Try resetting your receiver to factory defaults and rescanning.
 
Just wait until the next thunderstorm. See how well WPVI does then.

- Trip
 
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