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Prais said:
You don't have to "think so." Your immaturity is hilarious. I guess NOBODY can ever be wiser than you. I guess I missed that memo.

YOUR opinion is only that. You don't know me-or have any idea of what I've done. 2000 verifications over 40 (plus) years is only 50 a year. No big deal.

Actually, speaking of "limits of credibility" -your line of bull on this board is a MUCH bigger stretch to believe.

I'm calling you on this. One thing was to be "more Catholic than the Pope" in the Phoenix discussion, as that is just "puffery" which is almost a badge of honor in our industry.

But it's another thing to, anonymously, claim to have verified more stations than 99% of all still-active DXers using a very rudimentary receiver. Most DXers who were principally active in the 50's and 60's never got that many, and here we are talking about active radio club members who were part of tip exchanges and who achieved perhaps a quarter of all loggings and veries from club-specific DX Test notifications and frequency checks.

The "best" of the DXers from the 60's on had National HRO's and Hammarlund HQ180's in the 60's, often modified with Q Multipliers and such, using tiltable loops and such. From the late 60's into the 70's the R390 with its mechanical filters became the rig of choice, using phased arrays and such. A high percentage of most DXers' loggings were foreign, most on what we called back then "split frequencies." An SX 99 could not DX such stations, save for a few very powerful ones as its selectivity was not sharp enough... indeed, not sharp enough to get in to adjacents to larger local signals.

DXing with the WRTH as you mentioned was nearly impossible, as the book was never accurate, complete or particularly helpful for MW DX. The Broadcasting Yearbook was used by some of us to get addresses, but not for much else... the Jones Log kept us through the mid-80's in its 18 editions. But after that time, the NRC Log and the NRC night pattern book were the key guides to domestic DX, and international loggings were aided by the club International sections like IDXD.

Pardon me if I am a skeptic. This just does not ring true. Over the years, MW DXers in North America went through a few "Bud Bartos" (those real DXers of the 60's will know the name and the famous incidents) who claimed fantastic catches... so we know how the duck walks and quacks.
 
Let's not get into a whizzing contest. In defense of David, DXing in the 50's and 60's was DIFFERENT than the conditions we face today. I have been at it since 1955 or 56 and lived through those "better DX times". I, too, was a founding member of the IRCA in the early 60's (one of the first 100 members), but never made a dent like many of the "legendary DXers" of the day. A local guy where I lived, who has since passed away, got me into the IRCA. His name was Don Erickson. I am sure David remembers him.

It is true that stations operating with as little as 250 or 500 watts could be heard coast to coast if the frequency was clear. Monday mornings always provided great conditions because MOST stations signed off at midnight back then on Sunday night. At the time, I lived in Southern California and logged and verified many low powered stations from the midwest and eastern U.S. My receiver at the time was an RCA Model ACR-111 (Look that one up in your Funk & Wagnall!). The Clear Channel stations were just that....on CLEAR channels at night. All the East Coast biggies (WBZ, WABC, WLS, WCAU, KDKA, etc.) were REGULARS most every night. I used to listed to WLS every night like it was in the next county away!

As for the WRTH, I never wasted my money on that publication. It will full of errors. The Broadcasting Yearbook was much more accurate and even the old White's Radio Logs were better than the WRTH.

Fortunately, we now have a ton of free websites to help us in our hobby.
 
KR4BD said:
I, too, was a founding member of the IRCA in the early 60's (one of the first 100 members), but never made a dent like many of the "legendary DXers" of the day.

I remember the Labor Day, 1963 first convention of the IRCA in Denver where legends ranging from Larry Godwin to fellow Clevelander Ed Krejny were in attendance.

A local guy where I lived, who has since passed away, got me into the IRCA. His name was Don Erickson. I am sure David remembers him.

I not only remember Don, the first loop I got when I was "lefted" from Ecuador was one Don made and sent to me in Puerto Rico.

As for the WRTH, I never wasted my money on that publication. It will full of errors.The Broadcasting Yearbook was much more accurate and even the old White's Radio Logs were better than the WRTH.

Vane Jones was one of the DXeres I never met, although Dave Roy, another great DXer from Indianapolis, introduced me to the Jones log... later put out by SAMS. A few of them are at http://www.davidgleason.com/Jones_Master_Page.htm including one of the pre-SAMS issues from the 50's.
 
cyberdad said:
Absolutely a good spot indeed. Only one or two local sticks. And both of the hotels I've used....Days Inn and the Journey's End (Comfort Inn)....are constructed and situated in such a way as to let signals in "unblocked" and without adding noise. MUCH better than what I encounter an hour up the road at the Ottawa hotels.

And on top of that, the natives are friendly! :)

BTW, my usual 720 catch there...aside from WGN...used to be a relatively strong CHTN before they moved to FM.

Ya, I'm not technical, so I don't know why this area could be a possible 'sweet spot', perhaps the St. Lawrence helps??? (Next time you're in town, you may want to try a scan from Blockhouse Island, which forms part of our little harbour...even if you don't have your best DXing stuff with you, it's a great spot to munch on an order from Don's Fish & Chips.)

CHTN certainly did make regular visits. It's a shame that so many Canadian stations are leaving the AM band (only to get lost amongst all the other FM stations on the dial), but it does open up other opportunities...

~BG
 
Tincap said:
Ya, I'm not technical, so I don't know why this area could be a possible 'sweet spot', perhaps the St. Lawrence helps??? (Next time you're in town, you may want to try a scan from Blockhouse Island, which forms part of our little harbour...even if you don't have your best DXing stuff with you, it's a great spot to munch on an order from Don's Fish & Chips.)

Years ago, driving from Cleveland to Montréal in January (yeah, dumb thing to do) I was snowed in for a day at Belleville. Fortunately, had a good DX-quality portable, and the location made for some excellent DX. It was far enough from Toronto to avoid those stations, and since most Canadian AMs, including the local (was it on 810 at the time?) shot everything to the north, I was able to detect some Europeans as well as Latin Americans in a hotel almost on the shore of the lake.

I think the Fish & Chips would have made the visit complete... it was really cold!
 
cyberdad said:
The only small tidbit I can add to this is to also vouch for the fact that KSAH has an impressive daytime signal. I make the run from Dallas to Austin once or twice every year, and once I'm south of the Metroplex and away from splatter from the local on 730, KSAH booms in for then next 160 miles. And even when I get to Austin, I'm still about 60 miles from their stick.

My guess is that you were hearing KSAH when they were on their day pattern (regardless of whether they should've been).

Sixty miles for that dial position on that ground conductivity is nothing. KSAH is loud in Houston, at least 150 miles from the stick.
These reports are making me wonder if I can pull in some new stuff during critical hours, a time of the day at which I usually am working. I am off today ... thinking a trip out into a quiet area with little interference could be in the offing. Unfortunately it is very cold here today!
 
DavidEduardo said:
As for the WRTH, I never wasted my money on that publication. It will full of errors.The Broadcasting Yearbook was much more accurate and even the old White's Radio Logs were better than the WRTH.
Broadcasting Yearbook too expen$ive, I went to the library to look up information. Yeah, I agree for MW, the WRTH wasn't that great, but for shortwave it was helpful. First Copy I owned (and still have) was the 23rd Edition - 1969
Vane Jones was one of the DXer's I never met, although Dave Roy, another great DXer from Indianapolis, introduced me to the Jones log... later put out by SAMS. A few of them are at http://www.davidgleason.com/Jones_Master_Page.htm including one of the pre-SAMS issues from the 50's.
Vane Jones North American Radio TV Station Guides. I have a few of those around, that brings back memories. That was the best book in those days, helped me identify quite a few catches. First copy I owned (and still have) 7th Edition - 1971
 
DavidEduardo said:
Tincap said:
Ya, I'm not technical, so I don't know why this area could be a possible 'sweet spot', perhaps the St. Lawrence helps??? (Next time you're in town, you may want to try a scan from Blockhouse Island, which forms part of our little harbour...even if you don't have your best DXing stuff with you, it's a great spot to munch on an order from Don's Fish & Chips.)

Years ago, driving from Cleveland to Montréal in January (yeah, dumb thing to do) I was snowed in for a day at Belleville. Fortunately, had a good DX-quality portable, and the location made for some excellent DX. It was far enough from Toronto to avoid those stations, and since most Canadian AMs, including the local (was it on 810 at the time?) shot everything to the north, I was able to detect some Europeans as well as Latin Americans in a hotel almost on the shore of the lake.

I think the Fish & Chips would have made the visit complete... it was really cold!

David, I don't know where they sell any good fish & chips in Belleville, but if you ever plan on coming a little further east to Brockville, give me shout. I'll point you to Don's. It's on Water Street, just across from The Beer Store. You can't go wrong! ;D

My wife and I stayed at a B&B, just north of Belleville, this past fall. The AM station is still there at 800kHz, but the local FM wipes almost everything else off of the dial. Not a good spot for FM DX!

~BG
 
stormy01 said:
Broadcasting Yearbook too expen$ive, I went to the library to look up information.


Those Yearbooks are really expensive now. A 1935 one in library condition (library bound, not original cover) went for over $1000 on ebay last year. Those from the 40's routinely get $400 and up.

Vane Jones North American Radio TV Station Guides. I have a few of those around, that brings back memories. That was the best book in those days, helped me identify quite a few catches. First copy I owned (and still have) 7th Edition - 1971

Those Jones logs get anywhere from $20 to $50 on eBay. If you ever want to sell the 7th edition, email me!!!! I don't have it on my site yet.
 
Tincap said:
DavidEduardo said:
Tincap said:
Ya, I'm not technical, so I don't know why this area could be a possible 'sweet spot', perhaps the St. Lawrence helps??? (Next time you're in town, you may want to try a scan from Blockhouse Island, which forms part of our little harbour...even if you don't have your best DXing stuff with you, it's a great spot to munch on an order from Don's Fish & Chips.)

Years ago, driving from Cleveland to Montréal in January (yeah, dumb thing to do) I was snowed in for a day at Belleville. Fortunately, had a good DX-quality portable, and the location made for some excellent DX. It was far enough from Toronto to avoid those stations, and since most Canadian AMs, including the local (was it on 810 at the time?) shot everything to the north, I was able to detect some Europeans as well as Latin Americans in a hotel almost on the shore of the lake.

I think the Fish & Chips would have made the visit complete... it was really cold!

David, I don't know where they sell any good fish & chips in Belleville, but if you ever plan on coming a little further east to Brockville, give me shout. I'll point you to Don's. It's on Water Street, just across from The Beer Store. You can't go wrong! ;D

My wife and I stayed at a B&B, just north of Belleville, this past fall. The AM station is still there at 800kHz, but the local FM wipes almost everything else off of the dial. Not a good spot for FM DX!

~BG

Belleville is indeed also a pretty good spot for am DX. Local on 800 is not much of a problem, but the FM "OJ" is a bonafide pest. Bleeds all over the dial.

I actually wind up in Belleville one or two nights every year because it's roughly midway between Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa. Plus I can collect Marriott points at the Fairfield Inn. And yes, good fish & chips can be had at the Windsor Arms....a superb British pub about a half mile east of downtown. The bangers and mash is even better!

Then there was the Moviola. Wildly popular. Always packed to the rafters on 10-cent wing nights. Absolutely rocked! Cops finally shut the place down for too frequently serving underage local college kids.
 
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