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80s 90s Now - Great Concept

To a couple of posters:

Jake: there's some validity in what you say about radio's reluctance to jump on songs that come out of commercials. But...it depends on how big the commercial gets. Cases in point:

In the 1960's, Alka Seltzer did a TV spot featuring (ugh!) shots of people's stomachs with a catchy little instrumental tune behind it. "No Matter What Shape (Your Stomach's In)" by the T-Bones became a big hit.

Perhaps the most famous: The Coca-Cola ad with all the kids standing on a hillside in 1970 or 71, which
produced a huge hit with "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing (In Perfect Harmony)". The ad sang "I'd like to buy the world a Coke and keep it company".

There's been a few of such type stories of songs becoming hits from being exposed in TV ads. I can't remember them all off the top of my head, but they do happen. But, to get it to happen, the commercial...and the song...needs to generate a "buzz". So, in today's interactive world: if a TV ad has a catchy song and the TV spot gets a viral "buzz" and begins flying around You Tube and the like, it's quite possible radio will pick it up.

To Dawg:

In order to answer question 1, you'd have to do the cluster analysis. In that case, you get a "test audience" (about 100 people or so) in a room. You would have pre-screened these people to make sure they represent the approximate demographic attribute you're aiming for with your format. Then, you play these people song hooks of the types of "clusters" of songs they might hear on this "new" format. (By the way, you also throw in clusters of songs that don't match what you're going to play, so you have some baseline for comparison.) The question you ask the test audience with each cluster is: Would you enjoy hearing a radio station that plays these types of songs all the time?

If the majority of people in the test audience (I'd say 66% or better) score your "jammin" clusters positively, you might have a format. (Because you've now identifed a potential audience that seems positive about listening to your format.) The next step is to do an actual music test, where you then test about 700 or so songs that you think you might want to play. You do it the same way. The songs that test at least 66% or better positively with your test audience are the ones you consider for airplay. (There's a couple of other factors you have to also consider - a song can be liked well, but people can be tired of it. That's why when you have them "score" the songs, you have a score that says "like it, but I'm tired of it". That's how you figure whether a song has what's called a high "burn factor" with the audience.)

But, that's how it's done by radio. And, when it's done right, it works about 98% of the time. (There are occasions when you get bad music tests. It does happen.)

I know there are posters on this board who disagree with the notion of research. But, it ain't just radio that does it...TV does it...Magazines do it...so, too do national advertisers (which also explains why many commercials feature music from the 60's/70's and 80's.)
 
Thank you.

That was extremely well written and easy to understand. Hopefully future testing of random people proves us wrong.

I just can't imagine how a format that plays a better mix of music and is programed better than Power 107.5 not do well.
 
dawg4life said:
Thank you.

That was extremely well written and easy to understand. Hopefully future testing of random people proves us wrong.

I just can't imagine how a format that plays a better mix of music and is programed better than Power 107.5 not do well.

Things can change over time, Dawg. And one thing 35 years in radio has taught me is that...what goes around may eventually come around, never say "never" and be flexible enough to see when something has changed in an unexpected direction.

How can radio learn from this? OK: an example of needing to be flexible in the signs of change...radio was way too slow to realize the growing popularity of hip hop. It was behind the curve for a year or two (in '92 or so. "No Rap. No Top 40 Teen Music". WNCI wasn't the only station to use that phrase.) It was done for legitimate reason (sales and the need to keep CHR's upper demos), but could this have been the start of teen "disenchantment" with radio?
I wonder...

And, last "never say never". In my first radio job, I worked for a station that had a very large collection of vinyl rock 45's. We didn't play most of them, 'cause they were...well...CHR circa 1967 or so. We were an A/C station most of the time. I said to my boss at the time, "Hey, don't you think it would great if a radio station went back and played all these rock songs from the 50's and 60's again?" My boss laughed me out of the studio. He said, "There is no way on Earth any of those songs will ever get played on radio again."

Wonder what he thought when oldies stations started becoming popular?
 
I remember WNCI saying on the air, "...All that top 40 teen rap music, we've dropped it!" This was in late 92/early '93. I make no bones about this period of WNCI perhaps being the worst in the 40+ year history of 97.9. They were basically ripping off Sunny 95 at the time, and if I remember right, even had Chris Davis doing a "Love Songs"-like show from 7-midnight back then, with Davis lowering his voice considerably. Dave Robbins was the PD at the time I do remember. I almost completely quit listening to 'NCI during this period. It also left only one CHR in Columbus, 105.7/107.1 Hot 105/Hot 107, and beginning on Dec. 15, 1993, KISS-FM(Man did that station sound great! I still listen to the tapes of that station at least once a week). I even remember KISS, in their flip from Hot to Kiss, blasting stations in Columbus that played "Three decades of sleepy elevator music."
Back to the main subject at hand...the station idea would be a great fit for an HD2 subchannel. Another great HD2 subchannel format would be Classic Alternative. 90s in CHR may have been a down cycle, but Alternative music and culture was EVERYWHERE back then. A station in Canada called Fuel 90.3 was the first station I know of that has this format, as well as a station called 106.1 Radio X in Michigan that is trying this format. I would stick with Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage, etc.
 
I graduated High School in 92 so I guess I was one of the many people WNCI decided to hate on. The same people that listened to and supported WNCI in the 80's. Anyway, I completely quit listening to WNCI back then and I still to this day have a hard time listening to WNCI although they're a little better now compared to a couple years ago.

Hot 105/107 still to this day is my favorite radio station of all time. LOVED that station.
 
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