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830 AM Sandy Springs Updates?

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It looks like there is some movement on the Sandy Springs license (WFGM) for 830 kHz this week. An application was made to the FCC for daytime operation with three towers at 50kW and nighttime operation with four towers at 450W...

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=136135

Any chance this operation will finally come on the air this year? I'll have to drive by the antenna location off of Morgan Falls Rd.
 
What's up with the app vs. the CP in the FCC database? The CP shows a slightly different tower location and a 2400W night signal (albeit highly directional southward, I'm assuming to protect WCCO out of Minneapolis). I would think that they would want the existing construction-permitted power...

Also, anyone know about the daytimer WWOF move to 890 in Lithia Springs? They're moving their frequency from 1000kHz to 890, their CoL from Walhalla, SC to Lithia Springs, and changing their power from 1000W to 5000W/3800W critical hours.

Also, I noticed that WWOF's CP's CH tower is completely different than their daytime tower. Is this common for a station to move to a completely different tower or set of towers when they move from day to CH to night power? I'm not talking about turning towers in an array on/off/up/down.
 
Is this common for a station to move to a completely different tower or set of towers when they move from day to CH to night power?

No, it's not common, but there are stations that do that. WGAC 580 in Augusta is one that comes to mind. WWLG in Baltimore is another.
 
what does all this mean. is there a new station coming 2 atlanta?
 
Inside your head said:
what does all this mean. is there a new station coming 2 atlanta?

En ingles, there's a couple of stations that have an FCC permit to start up or move to Atlanta.

One of them is located near Lithia Springs on 890 and is replacing a station at 1000 kHz in the SC upstate. It will only be broadcasting during the day, and will have to cut its power back two hours the first two hours after sunrise and the last two hours before sunset. 5000W is about the same as WDWD (Radio Disney) on 590, for reference.

The other one, on 830, is in Sandy Springs. It can broadcast at a full FCC max 50kW during the day (same as WGST, WCNN, or WSB, although it appears to be directional SW to NE), and, depending on which license they go with, will either broadcast at night 2400W mostly towards the city of Atlanta or 450W in a direction TBD, but probably southward to prevent interfering with WCCO out of Minneapolis, which has a "clear channel" on that frequency.

For reference, at night WCNN is a directional 10kW (mostly excluding the NE), WGST is a slightly N-S directional 1000W, WDWD is 4500W with a NW to SE "snow angel" pattern (which they also use during the day), WQXI is 1000W in a trilobal (N, SW, SE) pattern, and WGKA is a nondirectional 490W. Many smaller stations can broadcast 24/7 at 1000W in any direction.

I have no idea what will be on any of these stations. Sports formats don't work well with daytimers or stations with minimal (<1000W) night power because of night games, but second-string talk is a possibility. Most other smaller Atlanta AM stations are religious or ethnic formats, although I wouldn't call the Sandy Springs station "small".
 
jabba17 said:
Inside your head said:
what does all this mean. is there a new station coming 2 atlanta?

En ingles, there's a couple of stations that have an FCC permit to start up or move to Atlanta.

One of them is located near Lithia Springs on 890 and is replacing a station at 1000 kHz in the SC upstate. It will only be broadcasting during the day, and will have to cut its power back two hours the first two hours after sunrise and the last two hours before sunset. 5000W is about the same as WDWD (Radio Disney) on 590, for reference.

The other one, on 830, is in Sandy Springs. It can broadcast at a full FCC max 50kW during the day (same as WGST, WCNN, or WSB, although it appears to be directional SW to NE), and, depending on which license they go with, will either broadcast at night 2400W mostly towards the city of Atlanta or 450W in a direction TBD, but probably southward to prevent interfering with WCCO out of Minneapolis, which has a "clear channel" on that frequency.

For reference, at night WCNN is a directional 10kW (mostly excluding the NE), WGST is a slightly N-S directional 1000W, WDWD is 4500W with a NW to SE "snow angel" pattern (which they also use during the day), WQXI is 1000W in a trilobal (N, SW, SE) pattern, and WGKA is a nondirectional 490W. Many smaller stations can broadcast 24/7 at 1000W in any direction.

I have no idea what will be on any of these stations. Sports formats don't work well with daytimers or stations with minimal (<1000W) night power because of night games, but second-string talk is a possibility. Most other smaller Atlanta AM stations are religious or ethnic formats, although I wouldn't call the Sandy Springs station "small".


GOD forbid, don't let it be religious. At least let it be oldies from a computer....................
 
WWOF is currently running Jones Satellite Oldies in South Carolina, and going by Big Wolf Radio. It's anybody's guess what it will become when it moves .
 
jabba17 said:
What's up with the app vs. the CP in the FCC database? The CP shows a slightly different tower location and a 2400W night signal (albeit highly directional southward, I'm assuming to protect WCCO out of Minneapolis). I would think that they would want the existing construction-permitted power...

From just glancing at the database, it seems like they need 4 towers at Morgan Falls to get 450wN or 6 towers at Holcolm Bridge/Ga.400 to get 2400wN. Either way would cover COL.

Or do what WDWD/590 did: Sell both for rising property values and build at a location that would seem like almost 0wN. :D
 
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