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87.7 vs. 99.1

MichaelP I totally agree with you. V107.3 was well organized and consistant with their playlist. The on air staff was EXPERIENCED. But people in this area shunned the station because they were too old. The music on 99.1 used to be harder edged alt. Now it sounds like 87.7. Why 87.7 thinks Kid Rock belongs in the playlist is way beyond me. But it proves a point of what advertsers want. Straight alternative is not a money making format. But you throw in some true classics. It grabs a broader audience. Which is the AAA format. Which broadens the audience in more age demos. More commercials. More money flow. Better on air staff.
 
I loved V1073 because they played the older tracks form the early days of WNCR/WMMS, plus a smattering of mid 60's oldies from The Beatles, Stones and Animals. It got me to listen to "new music" for the first time in a long time. It's how I got to appreciate Mumford and Sons (long before the rest of the world caught on to them). They played new music that fit in with the classics. I don't hear that on 87.7 or 99x.
 
I think if WNWV was still owned by Elyria-Lorain Broadcasting, they probably would've remained as V longer than how it turned out.

The playlist would've evolved, but I'm not sure of the jocks.

Here's an interesting article on 'NWV shortly after the launch of V:

http://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2010/02/radio_rebels_turn_back_dial_to.html

And here's one almost a year The Wave's return:

http://www.cleveland.com/pdq/index.ssf/2012/12/ten_minutes_with_thomas_mandel.html

Ownership change was what mainly played a role in the switch from V back to Wave.
 
Buckeyes2001 said:
I have to vote for 87.7 because, as mentioned before, the local focus of the station. In Vermilion, I can't get 99X due to co-channel WFRO which comes in like a local but I've checked out 99X when driving into Cuyahoga County.

Also, how would you guys compare the signal ranges of the stations? 87.7 is obviously on a wide-open frequency but some, especially after-market car radios won't tune below 87.9. Fortunately my Alpine radio does and I can get 87.7 very well even out in Sandusky. I've actually heard them as far west as the Toledo airport while driving on the Turnpike.


Last time, I was out that way. I noticed that I could carry 87.7 all the way down to the Ashland area before it became unlistenable. It also seems to make it east almost all the way to the PA line before it becomes unlistenable.

In the meantime, I noticed 99.1 came in on my car stereo pretty much until the Medina/Ashland county border.

Pretty impressive coverage.
 
Time for us to launch our own pirate radio station. Broadcasting live from a wave in Lake Erie on a 12 foot fishing boat..Just an idea from a movie with a similar spin. :D
 
Jim4Rock said:
Time for us to launch our own pirate radio station. Broadcasting live from a wave in Lake Erie on a 12 foot fishing boat..Just an idea from a movie with a similar spin. :D

Maybe get an internet station together. It can be a good station that can get a huge following.
 
My guess on the long term business plan for Cleveland's Sound is to take it internet by 2015 when Franken FM's have to sign off. Now, whether they make it to 2015 is another question entirely...
 
They might have to cut more costs if they want to go online and format themselves across the world to not limit themselves to Cleveland.

Speaking of 87.7, are they even going to bring in a PD to replace Kim?
 
mc_billy_bob said:
In the meantime, I noticed 99.1 came in on my car stereo pretty much until the Medina/Ashland county border.

Pretty impressive coverage.
:eek: When they first went on the air I recall reading somewhere that they were unlistenable in Downtown Cleveland. They are only 250w, with their stick in Parma.
 
MichaelP said:
mc_billy_bob said:
In the meantime, I noticed 99.1 came in on my car stereo pretty much until the Medina/Ashland county border.

Pretty impressive coverage.
:eek: When they first went on the air I recall reading somewhere that they were unlistenable in Downtown Cleveland. They are only 250w, with their stick in Parma.

Here's the 99x coverage map:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=W256BT&service=FX&status=L&hours=U

A bit deceiving, since they don't quite have enough "penetrating power" to get in between the buildings in the city very well, but when you get up on the innerbelt, they come in just fine.
 
chrocket87 said:
In my car, they are a dead station once you get east of Dead Man's Curve. :mad:

Agreed. That map does not at all represent their null to the northeast. 99.1 is not listenable in northern Lake County or Euclid, even on a very good radio. I've tried.
 
DrC said:
chrocket87 said:
In my car, they are a dead station once you get east of Dead Man's Curve. :mad:

Agreed. That map does not at all represent their null to the northeast. 99.1 is not listenable in northern Lake County or Euclid, even on a very good radio. I've tried.

I pretty much lose 99.1 on I-271 North just north of Chagrin, but there's spots where it will come in again for a while, just to cut out again.
 
dannykewl said:
DrC said:
chrocket87 said:
In my car, they are a dead station once you get east of Dead Man's Curve. :mad:

Agreed. That map does not at all represent their null to the northeast. 99.1 is not listenable in northern Lake County or Euclid, even on a very good radio. I've tried.

I pretty much lose 99.1 on I-271 North just north of Chagrin, but there's spots where it will come in again for a while, just to cut out again.

Your receiver is probably suffering some front-end overload from the nearby WFHM/WKRK transmitter tower when driving on 271 causing difficulty in getting 99.1
 
With 87.7 likely to go dark in 2015, what will happen with the format? Internet radio is an option, but there will those who love hearing the station upset they can't get it anymore. Unless as mentioned before they could (and I mean could) go for another frequency. That is a very slim chance it could happen, but I've seen stranger things occur.

I'm not sure if Sound and/or 99X would be around in two years. Maybe the format could end up on a bigger frequency. Who knows?
 
Buckeyes2001 said:
dannykewl said:
DrC said:
chrocket87 said:
In my car, they are a dead station once you get east of Dead Man's Curve. :mad:

Agreed. That map does not at all represent their null to the northeast. 99.1 is not listenable in northern Lake County or Euclid, even on a very good radio. I've tried.


I pretty much lose 99.1 on I-271 North just north of Chagrin, but there's spots where it will come in again for a while, just to cut out again.

Your receiver is probably suffering some front-end overload from the nearby WFHM/WKRK transmitter tower when driving on 271 causing difficulty in getting 99.1

But it pretty much stays that way the rest of I-271 up to Lyndhurst anyways, comes and goes on my OEM Caravan radio. When I go to visit my brother there, very weak around Mayfield/Brainard. I'm very aware of the Fish/Fan stick. I used to visit a buddy there who would board-op weekends at the WCLV Radio Ranch before they moved downtown. The Ranch was a cool place.
 
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